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Aug 24, 2006, 08:26 AM
 
$5 says the white tribe enslaves the black tribe only to be killed in their sleep by the latinos and all the while the asians are sitting off in their own world developing sophisticated technologies and then disavowing their very existence to no one in particular.
     
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Interesting. If you watch the show you'll realize that the "shock value" of splitting the groups by race means nothing in the end.
     
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Aug 24, 2006, 08:42 AM
 
Before reading the article, I was going to make a crack about the black guy being rather lonely. (They usually only have one or two token black people.)

But after reading the article, I've realized that I'm really, really, not interested in watching that. Just what shouldn't be happening is identifying people by their skin color.
     
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Originally Posted by davesimondotcom
Before reading the article, I was going to make a crack about the black guy being rather lonely. (They usually only have one or two token black people.)

But after reading the article, I've realized that I'm really, really, not interested in watching that. Just what shouldn't be happening is identifying people by their skin color.
Really? So we should stop having the Olympics?
     
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Originally Posted by starman
Really? So we should stop having the Olympics?
Olympic teams represent their countries, not their race.
     
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Originally Posted by Mastrap
Olympic teams represent their countries, not their race.
So....we expect a black guy from Italy? Ooh, maybe an Oriental woman from Uruguay.

Think about it, this Survivor thing is not that big a deal.
     
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Aug 24, 2006, 09:28 AM
 
I predict CBS will change the show after a backlash occurs. I also think the show will get poor ratings because of this concept.
     
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Aug 24, 2006, 09:40 AM
 
I don't think it's a particularly great idea, but people will watch it anyway just to be offended and it'll wind up getting huge ratings.
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the show is still on?
     
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Originally Posted by starman
So....we expect a black guy from Italy? Ooh, maybe an Oriental woman from Uruguay.

Think about it, this Survivor thing is not that big a deal.
You're comparing apples with oranges. In an Olympic setting, as you're rightly pointing out, there will be racial segregation but purely by virtue that certain races make up the vast majority of the population of certain countries. Countries like the US, that are made up from a racially mixed population, will have an Olympic team reflecting that mix.

There is no artificial segregation, as introduced by Survivor.
     
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Aug 24, 2006, 10:00 AM
 
There is no artificial segregation, as introduced by Survivor.
Oh? So last year when they split the teams based on sex and age, nobody cared, but now you have racial segregation and it's a big deal.

Please...

People are too uptight.
     
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Aug 24, 2006, 10:00 AM
 
Survivor is just trying to dig themselves out of being insignificant. I didn't even know they were still on the air.

IMHO, they screwed up the whole concept. They should have had radically different environments. The second season should have been somewhere in syberia, and the 3rd season should have been on a mountain at high altitude.

Also, they should have mixed the game up more than they did.
     
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Aug 24, 2006, 10:03 AM
 
The picture in that article didn't look very diverse. Are they gonna have a group of about 7 white people, 2 black people, and a couple of hispanics? How will that work out?
     
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Originally Posted by mitchell_pgh
Survivor is just trying to dig themselves out of being insignificant. I didn't even know they were still on the air.
Really? They're consitently one of the top rated shows, but just because YOU don't watch it doesn't mean it's insignificant. I never watched an episode of ER but that doesn't mean the show's insignificant.
     
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People still watch Survivor?

Who knew?
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Originally Posted by mitchell_pgh
IMHO, they screwed up the whole concept. They should have had radically different environments. The second season should have been somewhere in syberia, and the 3rd season should have been on a mountain at high altitude.
That's true, but then you couldn't have women wearing skimpy clothes all the time, which I'm sure doesn't hurt ratings, although the woman aren't always the most attractive...
     
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Originally Posted by mitchell_pgh
Survivor is just trying to dig themselves out of being insignificant. I didn't even know they were still on the air.

IMHO, they screwed up the whole concept. They should have had radically different environments. The second season should have been somewhere in syberia, and the 3rd season should have been on a mountain at high altitude.

Also, they should have mixed the game up more than they did.
You can't have girls in skimpy outfits in the artic. Believe me, I agree with you, but they are stuck on having "sexy" outfits.

Not that anyone in their right mind could find someone who hasn't showered in 39 days attractive.
     
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Originally Posted by Gossamer
That's true, but then you couldn't have women wearing skimpy clothes all the time, which I'm sure doesn't hurt ratings, although the woman aren't always the most attractive...
Beat me to it.
     
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Originally Posted by mitchell_pgh
Survivor is just trying to dig themselves out of being insignificant. I didn't even know they were still on the air.

IMHO, they screwed up the whole concept. They should have had radically different environments. The second season should have been somewhere in syberia, and the 3rd season should have been on a mountain at high altitude.
Season 2 (Australia) was the best season, I thought. The ones since Africa have all been too similar, though. I've always thought Survivor: Antarctica would be awesome, though.

Originally Posted by mitchell_pgh
Also, they should have mixed the game up more than they did.
The game has changed a lot since the beginning. Almost every season brings a new twist. What more do you think they should have mixed up?
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Originally Posted by starman
Oh? So last year when they split the teams based on sex and age, nobody cared, but now you have racial segregation and it's a big deal.

Please...

People are too uptight.
Its a tad bit different to split up teams based on sex and/or age, or splitting them up based on skin color. This isn't a matter of being uptight or not. Its a matter of whether or not you want to perpetuate the still very delicate issue of race relations in the U.S. Just because we abolished slavery after the Civil War doesn't mean our race relations are what they should be. We still have a long way to go to becoming fully racially equal in this country.

Call me uptight if that makes you feel better about condoning this sort of concept for a crappy T.V. show. But reinforcing racial segregation (which is exactly what this is) isn't OK with me. They are doing it purely for the controversial nature, and to get ratings because of it. Its despicable.

But you gotta hand it to the moron producers of that show. They came up with this concept (which any child could think up) purely to spark discussions such as this. So now everyone's talking about it, and the show will get ratings. Kudos, you racist sons-a-b!tches.
     
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Originally Posted by ::maroma::
Its a tad bit different to split up teams based on sex and/or age, or splitting them up based on skin color. This isn't a matter of being uptight or not. Its a matter of whether or not you want to perpetuate the still very delicate issue of race relations in the U.S. Just because we abolished slavery after the Civil War doesn't mean our race relations are what they should be. We still have a long way to go to becoming fully racially equal in this country.

Call me uptight if that makes you feel better about condoning this sort of concept for a crappy T.V. show. But reinforcing racial segregation (which is exactly what this is) isn't OK with me. They are doing it purely for the controversial nature, and to get ratings because of it. Its despicable.

But you gotta hand it to the moron producers of that show. They came up with this concept (which any child could think up) purely to spark discussions such as this. So now everyone's talking about it, and the show will get ratings. Kudos, you racist sons-a-b!tches.
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Originally Posted by ::maroma::
But you gotta hand it to the moron producers of that show. They came up with this concept (which any child could think up) purely to spark discussions such as this. So now everyone's talking about it, and the show will get ratings. Kudos, you racist sons-a-b!tches.
1. I have been no evidence that Mark Burnett is a racist.

2. I have seen no evidence that Mark Burnett is an American.
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Originally Posted by nonhuman
$5 says the white tribe enslaves the black tribe only to be killed in their sleep by the latinos and all the while the asians are sitting off in their own world developing sophisticated technologies and then disavowing their very existence to no one in particular.
     
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Originally Posted by starman
Someone needs a hug.

Someone also has to look at the Nielsen ratings.
I could definitely use a hug right about now. (I'm currently working on a project where Microsoft is the client... )

And the Nielsen Ratings is the Devil's tool!
     
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The latinos will impregnate the white women, the asians will plant rice fields, the blacks will farm chicken and the white people will steal thier food source. Is that enough or should I throw in more stereo-types?
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Originally Posted by SeSawaya
the show is still on?
That's what I was going to say.


Originally Posted by nonhuman
$5 says the white tribe enslaves the black tribe only to be killed in their sleep by the latinos and all the while the asians are sitting off in their own world developing sophisticated technologies and then disavowing their very existence to no one in particular.
     
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Originally Posted by Rumor
The latinos will impregnate the white women, the asians will plant rice fields, the blacks will farm chicken and the white people will steal thier food source. Is that enough or should I throw in more stereo-types?
The black team will win all the physical challenges, while the Asians will win the mental challenges, the whites will refuse to acknowledge these two facts and blame the Latinos.
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Such hypocrites.
     
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Originally Posted by Chuckit
The black team will win all the physical challenges, while the Asians will win the mental challenges, the whites will refuse to acknowledge these two facts and blame the Latinos.
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