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Kerrigan · Sep 6, 2006, 08:16 AM

24 inch iMac is released

And they are all Core 2 Duo now

badidea · Sep 6, 2006, 08:17 AM

I am so going to buy this asap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dakar · Sep 6, 2006, 08:18 AM

I wonder how much that thing weighs.

Kerrigan · Sep 6, 2006, 08:21 AM

Weight: 24.7 pounds (11.2 kg)

Dakar · Sep 6, 2006, 08:22 AM

Thanks, I clicked the specs link but got a 404.

Man, that's 10 more than the 17"

Definitely not 'mobile'
Edit: Though still way lighter than the G3 iMacs which were supposedly mobile...

C.A.T.S. CEO · Sep 6, 2006, 08:34 AM

Thread already started about this.

Dakar · Sep 6, 2006, 08:36 AM

No replies, though, so this one stays...

Kerrigan · Sep 6, 2006, 08:37 AM

I wonder how this is connected to the rumored video service release on the 12th...

Dakar · Sep 6, 2006, 08:37 AM

You think it is?

C.A.T.S. CEO · Sep 6, 2006, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by Kerrigan

I wonder how this is connected to the rumored video service release on the 12th...

Thats my question. Whats coming out on the 12th? iPod, Vid service?

Maybe Apple is trying to confuse us and knock us off the trail.

Andy8 · Sep 6, 2006, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by C.A.T.S. CEO

Thats my question. Whats coming out on the 12th? iPod, Vid service?

Maybe Apple is trying to confuse us and knock us off the trail.

iPod Video, Movie Downloads, iPhone ~

nonhuman · Sep 6, 2006, 08:58 AM

And here I was just thinking how cool it would be to get a Mini to go with my 24" Dell monitor to use as the 'TV' except that then I wouldn't be able to use it with my G5. Perhaps I should just get one of these instead.

badidea · Sep 6, 2006, 08:58 AM

Apple flat screen TV
Apple full HD beamer (19db)
Apple 7.1 reciever
Apple Porn production company

Andy8 · Sep 6, 2006, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by nonhuman

And here I was just thinking how cool it would be to get a Mini to go with my 24" Dell monitor to use as the 'TV' except that then I wouldn't be able to use it with my G5. Perhaps I should just get one of these instead.

I have a 24" Dell also, I think it would go nicely with a 24" iMac

nonhuman · Sep 6, 2006, 09:02 AM

Wait a second. I just went to configure one to see the price and according to the Apple Store, it maxes out at 3 GB RAM. Is that right? Only 3? Not 4?

nonhuman · Sep 6, 2006, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by Andy8

I have a 24" Dell also, I think it would go nicely with a 24" iMac

Well yeah, but the whole point is that I want to keep using it for my PowerMac and my Gaming PC.

Ooh, I wonder if they're going to start making black ones like the iPod and MacBook. A black one would look so much better as a TV in the living room.

TETENAL · Sep 6, 2006, 09:05 AM

The new low end mini has a core more but is still on the Core Duo 1.

voodoo · Sep 6, 2006, 09:11 AM

The iMac is now available in HD. Very nice!

V

cmeisenzahl · Sep 6, 2006, 09:18 AM

Very cool, great move for Apple!

Dakar · Sep 6, 2006, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by nonhuman

Ooh, I wonder if they're going to start making black ones like the iPod and MacBook. A black one would look so much better as a TV in the living room.

I'd be jealous.

Mastrap · Sep 6, 2006, 09:22 AM

I so want one. I was planning on buying a flat screen TV next year, maybe we'll just get one of these.

Landos Mustache · Sep 6, 2006, 09:31 AM

It is so weird that the chin is the same size. I would have thought they could reduce it quite a bit by tucking it behind that giant screen.

Landos Mustache · Sep 6, 2006, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by Mastrap

I so want one. I was planning on buying a flat screen TV next year, maybe we'll just get one of these.

You'll find 24" isn't big at all for movies if you aren't sitting right in front of it. You'll also have to get some add ons to watch TV on it.

Obi Wan's Ghost · Sep 6, 2006, 09:34 AM

Woooo a whole inch bigger than My Insider Sources™ said on AppleMacInsider.cum

nonhuman · Sep 6, 2006, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by Landos Mustache

You'll find 24" isn't big at all for movies if you aren't sitting right in front of it. You'll also have to get some add ons to watch TV on it.

Sadly this is true. I use my 24" Dell for watching movies, but unless I'm actually at my desk in front of it it's definitely a bit small.

Dakar · Sep 6, 2006, 09:42 AM

I've never owned a TV larger than 19"

Obi Wan's Ghost · Sep 6, 2006, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by Dakar

I've never owned a TV larger than 19"

Whoa, that is so infidel.

Forget the 24" iMac. You need this:

26 INCHES!

(with a lame resolution)

Dakar · Sep 6, 2006, 09:49 AM

In all honesty its because I was either in college, or after I got out, I built my first surround sound system. I'm currently in the process of refurbishing my living room (new couch, media storage, and TV stand) and getting myself a 42" plasma will probably be my final move.

Edit: It is pretty funny that my 17" iMac challenges my TV...

MindFad · Sep 6, 2006, 10:01 AM

$999? Way to go, Apple! Nice lineup.

Edit: Never mind, $999 one has integrated graphics and no Bluetooth. Lame.

So, ignoring that $999 one, awesome lineup!

Eug · Sep 6, 2006, 10:04 AM

So, do I have to buy an extra Firewire 800 to Firewire 400 adapter? Or does Apple include one in the box for Firewire 800 Macs?

voodoo · Sep 6, 2006, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by MindFad

Edit: Never mind, $999 one has integrated graphics and no Bluetooth. Lame.

So, ignoring that $999 one, awesome lineup!

Agreed. That low end model is simply distasteful. Integrated suck-o-matic graphics. Mhmm.

Apple is not learning anything fast.

V

Landos Mustache · Sep 6, 2006, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by Eug

So, do I have to buy an extra Firewire 800 to Firewire 400 adapter? Or does Apple include one in the box for Firewire 800 Macs?

No, I haven't seen an adapter before either. Aren't they totally different technologies FW 800 being fiber?

Obi Wan's Ghost · Sep 6, 2006, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by Eug

So, do I have to buy an extra Firewire 800 to Firewire 400 adapter? Or does Apple include one in the box for Firewire 800 Macs?

Faster iMacs released

To top it off, the high end iMac also features a FireWire 800 port in place of one of the regular 400mbps ports

The 24" has Firewire 400 and a 800. The others only have 400. No adapter in the box.

TETENAL · Sep 6, 2006, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by voodoo

Apple is not learning anything fast.

They lowered the price of the low-end one with dedicated graphics. And they added the option of an even cheaper model. What's to complain about that? It makes the product line more affordable to everyone.

Landos Mustache · Sep 6, 2006, 10:23 AM

Does the 17" not come with a remote?

Dakar · Sep 6, 2006, 10:24 AM

Which one?

demograph68 · Sep 6, 2006, 10:26 AM

Quick comparison with Dell.

Apple iMac specs:

Monitor: 20 inch LCD
Processor: 2.16 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
Memory: 1 GB
Hard Drive: 250GB
Disk Drive: SuperDrive (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
Graphics Card: ATI Radeon X1600/256MB VRAM
Video Camera: Built In iSight
Airport Extreme
Bluetooth
Price: $1,574

Dell XPS 410 specs:

Monitor: 20 inch LCD
Processor: 2.13 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
Memory: 1 GB
Hard Drive: 250GB
Disk Drive: Single Drive (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
Graphics Card: ATI Radeon X1300 Pro/256MB VRAM
Video Camera: Logitech QuickCam Orbit MP
Price: $1,540

C.A.T.S. CEO · Sep 6, 2006, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by voodoo

Agreed. That low end model is simply distasteful. Integrated suck-o-matic graphics. Mhmm.

Apple is not learning anything fast.

V

The $999 is for PC to Mac switchers (who don't know crap about Macs) and the education market.

Landos Mustache · Sep 6, 2006, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by Dakar

Which one?

The 17 inch iMac doesn't come with a front Row remote according to the Apple Store. Strange that Apple still pushes that front row comes with every iMac.

Dakar · Sep 6, 2006, 10:31 AM

Well, mine did.

C.A.T.S. CEO · Sep 6, 2006, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by Landos Mustache

The 17 inch iMac doesn't come with a front Row remote according to the Apple Store. Strange that Apple still pushes that front row comes with every iMac.

The 17" is for EDUCATION. THEY NEED CHEAP COMPUTERS THAT DON'T GET VIRUSES!

Obi Wan's Ghost · Sep 6, 2006, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by Landos Mustache

Does the 17" not come with a remote?

No you have to order it. It only has the IR.

http://www.apple.com/imac/specs.html

voodoo · Sep 6, 2006, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by TETENAL

They lowered the price of the low-end one with dedicated graphics. And they added the option of an even cheaper model. What's to complain about that? It makes the product line more affordable to everyone.

It cheapens the product line, yeah. The crap-o-graphics Macs have a way worse resale value and way shorter practical lifespan.

Their sad little 'GPU' can't run many things already and won't run most things in the near future. The GMA950 is a crutch and not a proper GPU.

PC users are laughing and scratching themselves in the head over the availability of the GMA950 in Macs.

The price difference between a GMA950 and a real GPU is within 5$. The inclusion of that turd-o-gpu has nothing practical to do with the availability of a sub $1000 iMac. It's just a way to ensure that the low end iMac is crap and people spend a little more to gain a lot more. Apple wants to sell the 20" iMac. The low-end is just to entice people to take a look.

It's a classic bait and switch. If that doesn't work and people buy the low-end, then they end up with a mac. As opposed to a Mac.

V

Eug · Sep 6, 2006, 10:41 AM

The current iMac line is EXCELLENT, including having the low end GMA 950 model. <-- Perfect for my friend's parents. He was complaining before because the GMA 950 was only for education. Now they have this option too.

Originally Posted by Landos Mustache

No, I haven't seen an adapter before either. Aren't they totally different technologies FW 800 being fiber?

Nope, AFAIK.

Originally Posted by Obi Wan's Ghost

Faster iMacs released

The 24" has Firewire 400 and a 800. The others only have 400. No adapter in the box.

OK. I'll have to get a get adapter cable then.

P.S. There's no point in getting it from Apple.com anyway. They charge $$$ for a Belkin Firewire 800 <--> 400 cable. I'll get one elsewhere.

demograph68 · Sep 6, 2006, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by voodoo

The price difference between a GMA950 and a real GPU is within 5$. The inclusion of that turd-o-gpu has nothing practical to do with the availability of a sub $1000 iMac. It's just a way to ensure that the low end iMac is crap and people spend a little more to gain a lot more. Apple wants to sell the 20" iMac. The low-end is just to entice people to take a look.

Agreed. This would be my only complaint so far.

C.A.T.S. CEO · Sep 6, 2006, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by voodoo

It cheapens the product line, yeah. The crap-o-graphics Macs have a way worse resale value and way shorter practical lifespan.

Their sad little 'GPU' can't run many things already and won't run most things in the near future. The GMA950 is a crutch and not a proper GPU.

PC users are laughing and scratching themselves in the head over the availability of the GMA950 in Macs.

The price difference between a GMA950 and a real GPU is within 5$. The inclusion of that turd-o-gpu has nothing practical to do with the availability of a sub $1000 iMac. It's just a way to ensure that the low end iMac is crap and people spend a little more to gain a lot more. Apple wants to sell the 20" iMac. The low-end is just to entice people to take a look.

It's a classic bait and switch. If that doesn't work and people buy the low-end, then they end up with a mac. As opposed to a Mac.

V

Maybe, but i still say:ITS FOR EDUCATION!!!!!!!!!!!

Landos Mustache · Sep 6, 2006, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by C.A.T.S. CEO

The 17" is for EDUCATION. THEY NEED CHEAP COMPUTERS THAT DON'T GET VIRUSES!

Well I don't think schools are the only ones that are going to buy it but alright.

Eug · Sep 6, 2006, 11:01 AM

CRAP! The Canadian educational free iPod deal does NOT apply to the new iMac.

waxcrash · Sep 6, 2006, 11:03 AM

Is the NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT 256MB a decent GPU?

Mastrap · Sep 6, 2006, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by voodoo

It's a classic bait and switch.

No it's not. Offering a lower specced entry model has nothing to do with bait and switch.

Here is the definition of bait and switch, for those interested.