[volcano]

On a daily basis, my diet usually consists of: whole grains (organic cereal), various fruits, vegetables, and pasta. I eat a lot of salad, too. I eat chicken quite a bit, so I have meat in my diet... but I rarely, if ever, eat beef anymore.

Last week I visited my parents and they made hamburgers. I couldn't really do anything about it, so I decided to eat one. That night I vomited, and for about 2 days afterward my body felt like utter crap. The burger was cooked almost well done, and there was no pink to be seen.

I didn't think anything of it, though... until this evening. I ate beef again... this time it was angus beef, in the form of 4 small burgers that I ordered from work before I left for the evening. They were thoroughly cooked. But I vomited about an hour ago, and now I feel like complete ass.

No, I haven't had any spinach... and no, I'm not bulimic either

The last time I ate beef before that burger last week was at least over a month and a half ago. Does my body hate beef now or what? I haven't had any problems with chicken. I'm not a fan of pork.

Thoughts?

[Chuckit]

Seems awful soon to have lost your tolerance for beef, not that I'm a nutritionist or anything. I don't suppose they all happened to be greasy burgers, did they? You normal diet seems to be pretty free of nasty grease, which I know makes me sick to my stomach no matter what it's in.

[Nicko]

Increase your immunity by consuming small amounts of beef every day, you can beat this!

Chuck might be right though, it could be how your're cooking it --- burgers are one of the worst things for your body when it comes to grease and fat I think.

[Face Ache]

Originally Posted by volcano

Thoughts?

... mmm... beeeeef...

I figure life is about survival of the fittest, so I plan on eating as many other animals as I can before I go.

I'm halfway through my 17th cow.

<burp>

[driven]

I have to be very careful with what I eat. If I eat anything with red meat (which I love) I get the runny craps within about 20-30 minutes. Literally my entire stomach empties out. (Not to be morbid, but this is bad enough that I can actually see what I just ate!)

Disclaimer: I have IBS and haven't had a solid stool in over a decade.

[Cody Dawg]

I hope you're having regular colonoscopys, driven. Very important with IBS. Also, see an allergist because it's the immune system attacking your intestines with IBS, which I'm sure you know. I have it too with certain foods. Like wheat. It developed late in my life. Never had a problem until about two years ago and now if I eat wheat I feel tired, my eyesight gets bad, and I have tingling in my extremeties.

I can eat a burger...but not the bun.

Strange how some things work out.

[driven]

Actually, no. My doctor never suggested one. I did have one about 8 years ago and several polyps were removed, but none sense. I just assumed I'd need them after I'm 50.

Seems I have something to ask my doctor about.

Interesting observation about the alergy.

[screamingFit]

Originally Posted by volcano

On a daily basis, my diet usually consists of: whole grains (organic cereal), various fruits, vegetables, and pasta. I eat a lot of salad, too. I eat chicken quite a bit, so I have meat in my diet... but I rarely, if ever, eat beef anymore.

Last week I visited my parents and they made hamburgers. I couldn't really do anything about it, so I decided to eat one. That night I vomited, and for about 2 days afterward my body felt like utter crap. The burger was cooked almost well done, and there was no pink to be seen.

I didn't think anything of it, though... until this evening. I ate beef again... this time it was angus beef, in the form of 4 small burgers that I ordered from work before I left for the evening. They were thoroughly cooked. But I vomited about an hour ago, and now I feel like complete ass.

No, I haven't had any spinach... and no, I'm not bulimic either

The last time I ate beef before that burger last week was at least over a month and a half ago. Does my body hate beef now or what? I haven't had any problems with chicken. I'm not a fan of pork.

Thoughts?

It's nothing wrong with the meat - it's your body rejecting it. Alot of people can't digest red meat, especially after going without it.

My personal stance is that regular eating of red meat is one of the worst things you can do to your body. I think your body is trying to tell you the same thing!

[Millennium]

As long as we're not talking about diamond-encrusted howler monkeys here, you'll probably be all right. However, as others have noted, if you want to start eating beef again (or at least build up a tolerance to the stuff), then your best bet is to go slowly. Multiple burgers may have been too fast.

[mitchell_pgh]

Originally Posted by screamingFit

My personal stance is that regular eating of red meat is one of the worst things you can do to your body. I think your body is trying to tell you the same thing!

I'm not advocating the mass consumption of red meat, but I can think of a number of things that are worse (smoking, heavy drinking, drugs, etc. etc.). Also, I feel genetics have as much to do with how healthy you are as what you eat.

On a side note, we as humans are clearly omnivores... designed to eat both plants and animals.

[Landos Mustache]

I think it is pretty much easy to say if you don't normally eat beef and when you do you get sick...well don't eat beef then.

I haven't eaten beef or pork in 16 years and I don't miss it one bit.

[Cody Dawg]

driven:

The symptoms that you're describing, including having had polyps removed already, is something to pay very careful attention to.

If you have had polyps removed my understanding is that you need to have a colonoscopy done in 5 to 7 years again, especially since you have IBS. Sometimes IBS is caused by many small growths on the colon and not because of diet, did you know that? It starts an inflammatory process that is ongoing. Here is a link that reinforces my point: Link You're at a higher risk for cancer because of IBS. Also, according to research the risk of future polyps is something like 50%. You need to be proactive about it.

You need to go back and maybe even get another physician involved. IBS is not what you're describing, actually. IBS is intermittent. You say that yours is non-stop. It almost sounds like Crohns and if it's Crohns then you should be treated for it.

Also, did you know that years of an inflamed colon can result in your having to have surgery to remove a portion of it? It's true. That's why it's very important to get it under control and not just live with it. The drug Rofecoxib/Vioxx reduces the chance of polyps recurring also.

Good luck.

[©öñFü$íóÑ]

I went for most of 2005 -WITHOUT- eating chicken, turkey or any other bird... birds are such delightful creatures to observe (birds are my friends)........ but i caved in on Thanksgiving (U.S.) ..... I'm happy to be in America... =') ...... so...... i had to eat the turkey.

Otherwise, I always love a slab of tender, juicy, lightly seasoned steak!

[screamingFit]

Originally Posted by mitchell_pgh

I'm not advocating the mass consumption of red meat, but in my opinion, I can think of a number of things that are worse (smoking, heavy drinking, drugs, etc. etc.). Also, I feel genetics have as much to do with how healthy you are as what you eat.

In my opinion, we as humans are clearly omnivores... designed to eat both plants and animals.

Fixed.

(I'm not turning this thread about the "rightness" of eating animals or what you ingest into your body but there are different opinions about this.)

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by screamingFit

I'm not turning this thread about the "rightness" of eating animals or what you ingest into your body but there are different opinions about this.

There are different opinions about this in the same way that there are different opinions about the roundness of the earth. Regardless of morality, the human body is capable of processing meat, requires some nutrients that are mainly found in meat (though intelligent substitution can make up for it) and humans historically have eaten meat.

[screamingFit]

Originally Posted by Chuckit

There are different opinions about this in the same way that there are different opinions about the roundness of the earth. Regardless of morality, the human body is capable of processing meat, requires some nutrients that are mainly found in meat (though intelligent substitution can make up for it) and humans historically have eaten meat.

If the body is capable of processing meat, then why is there this thread?!?

[Chuckit]

Is the human body also not generally able to be around peanuts because some people have peanut allergies?

[bstone]

There is absolutely no reason to eat meat. If you havent eaten it until recently and this happens then you should simply stop eating it altogether. Nothing lost.

[screamingFit]

Originally Posted by Chuckit

Is the human body also not generally able to be around peanuts because some people have peanut allergies?

That's an allergy. That's different.

Try not eating any meat for a few months. Then eat a big 'ol burger. You'll probably be crapping your brains out.

[Chuckit]

You'll also be desperately unhealthy if you don't carefully balance your diet.

[Tyler McAdams]

A lot of psychological problems can manifest themselves in physical sickness so i would not rule that out. Red meat has been said to not be so good for you so that could be an issue too.

[Monique]

It is a question of dislike and like and for some odd reason you body will reject things you do not like to eat. Obviously it was never hard for you to give up meat and you are more a vegeterian type of person. You seem to say that you tolerate chicken and eat it because you have to. Actually you do not have to, you can replace meat and live a healthy lifestyle. The last time I ate carrots I wanted to throw up to. I intensly hate vegetables and fruits. I tolerate vegetable juices, that is how I can get them in my diet or with some sort of sauce. But, cannot eat carrots, cauliflower, or turnips. If I eat it my body will reject it. Do not worry just do not eat beef anymore and you will not have any problems.

[volcano]

Thanks for the advice.

Honestly, I wasn't even trying to purposely avoid red meat these past couple of weeks... I've just steered clear of it because I didn't feel like eating it. But I do enjoy chicken. I don't think I could stop eating that, but I suppose I could see what happens.

Oddly enough, this is how it always goes with me when I subconsciously decide to change my diet habits: two years ago I stopped drinking coke for no apparent reason, and then I stopped drinking carbonated beverages altogether. I don't miss it one bit. I don't know if it'll be the same story with this beef scenario, though.

My first solid foods as an infant were salad and tofu. I was allergic to milk when I was younger as well, so I could only drink soy milk. I guess I was destined to be a vegetarian from the start, eh?

Thanks for the advice, everyone. I think I'll just stop eating beef, and see what happens.

[mitchell_pgh]

Originally Posted by screamingFit

Fixed.

(I'm not turning this thread about the "rightness" of eating animals or what you ingest into your body but there are different opinions about this.)

I was in no way implying the "rightness" of eating animals [I was a strict vegetarian for over 7 years]. Simply stating that our bodies are designed to eat both animals and plants. From our teeth to our stomaches... we are "designed" to eat meat, fruit and vegetables.

I'm not saying we should eat meat, just that we are designed to do so.

[Person Man]

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

driven:

The symptoms that you're describing, including having had polyps removed already, is something to pay very careful attention to.

If you have had polyps removed my understanding is that you need to have a colonoscopy done in 5 to 7 years again, especially since you have IBS. Sometimes IBS is caused by many small growths on the colon and not because of diet, did you know that? It starts an inflammatory process that is ongoing. Here is a link that reinforces my point: Link You're at a higher risk for cancer because of IBS. Also, according to research the risk of future polyps is something like 50%. You need to be proactive about it.

You need to go back and maybe even get another physician involved. IBS is not what you're describing, actually. IBS is intermittent. You say that yours is non-stop. It almost sounds like Crohns and if it's Crohns then you should be treated for it.

Also, did you know that years of an inflamed colon can result in your having to have surgery to remove a portion of it? It's true. That's why it's very important to get it under control and not just live with it. The drug Rofecoxib/Vioxx reduces the chance of polyps recurring also.

Good luck.

Not to be a jerk, Cody, but when did you become a doctor?

Perhaps you're confusing Irritable Bowel Disease/Syndrome with Ulcerative Colitis. There is no association between IBS and colon cancer, however, there is a greatly increased risk of colon cancer associated with Ulcerative Colitis. (Perhaps you thought IBS stood for Inflammatory Bowel Disease? Your link doesn't mention Irritable Bowel Disease, but it DOES mention Inflammatory Bowel Disease... i.e. Crohn's or Ulcerative Colitis).

Regardless, he should get a colonoscopy because of the history of polyps. The current recommendation is 3 years after a polyp is removed.

Also, Vioxx (rofecoxib) is off the market.

[RAILhead]

I just got through eating some beef from a local Mom and Pop joint named "Dairy Bar." The owner raises, slaughters, and grinds his own meat.

I love Texas.

[Teronzhul]

Just for the record, my body loves beef. If any of you just happen to sit down to a nice tender steak, and decide you can't eat it for some reason, call me. Really.

[Monique]

Originally Posted by Teronzhul

Just for the record, my body loves beef. If any of you just happen to sit down to a nice tender steak, and decide you can't eat it for some reason, call me. Really.

People should never feel they have to eat food they do not like or tolerate. You love beef, eat it, your neighbour loves vegetables good for them.

I wish I would love vegetables, I would be blonde 6 feet tall and 80 pounds, dumb and no problems anymore in my life. But, I would be married and have tons of children.

[RAILhead]

Originally Posted by Monique

I wish I would love vegetables, I would be blonde 6 feet tall and 80 pounds, dumb and no problems anymore in my life. But, I would be married and have tons of children.

[Chuckit]

Vegetables make you stupid?

[Nicko]

Welcome to crazy town: Population 1

[TheoCryst]

I've found myself developing a mild aversion to beef since I went away to college. I eat chicken occasionally, but have only had beef once in the past two months. It was a burger, and while it didn't empty my bowels or anything, it did leave me feeling a little bit queasy for the rest of the day. So I think I'll just stick with chicken for now (much healthier than red meat anyway).

[driven]

Originally Posted by Person Man

Not to be a jerk, Cody, but when did you become a doctor?

Perhaps you're confusing Irritable Bowel Disease/Syndrome with Ulcerative Colitis. There is no association between IBS and colon cancer, however, there is a greatly increased risk of colon cancer associated with Ulcerative Colitis. (Perhaps you thought IBS stood for Inflammatory Bowel Disease? Your link doesn't mention Irritable Bowel Disease, but it DOES mention Inflammatory Bowel Disease... i.e. Crohn's or Ulcerative Colitis).

Regardless, he should get a colonoscopy because of the history of polyps. The current recommendation is 3 years after a polyp is removed.

Also, Vioxx (rofecoxib) is off the market.

To both of you ... thanks. I'm one of those guys that basically "lives" with issues and only go to the doctor when I'm on my death bed. Quite honestly this almost got me killed as I waited so long to go to the doctor when my head hurt that Meningitis almost killed me. (Spent 10 days in the hospital. If I went sooner it might have been 3.) Reardless I hate to waste money on tests, etc.

But: You've both managed to frighten the bejesus out of me.

[Andy8]

Originally Posted by bstone

There is absolutely no reason to eat meat. If you havent eaten it until recently and this happens then you should simply stop eating it altogether. Nothing lost.

Exactly

26 years without eating an animal and I am stronger and healthier than ever before in my life.