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Oct 14, 2006, 03:06 PM
 
Hi,

Needed recommendations for my next set of wheels! I was looking at buying an SUV, with a budget of say 20-25k dollars. The last car I bought was over 6 years ago, and that was a sedan, so I have no idea about prices and the like of SUV's. I am of course gonna research and start looking, but I wanted to know your thoughts!

P.S. Probably not the best forum for car recommendations, but since we're all Mac users, I was hoping I would get suggestions from like-minded people! (Read: With a perception for top-quality!!)
     
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Oct 14, 2006, 03:34 PM
 
If you want to buy an SUV, fine. But can you explain to me the appeal of an SUV?

They get crappy mileage, have less cargo area than a pickup or minivan, and the safety factor is just a myth.

What's the appeal?
     
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Oct 14, 2006, 04:09 PM
 
I'll have to repeat part of haysek's post. Why an SUV? I debated between an SUV and a mini-van during my last purchase and decided on the van. Image means nothing to me and a van fit my needs better.

What are you requirements for the vehicle?
     
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Oct 14, 2006, 04:39 PM
 
The Toyota Prius
     
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Oct 14, 2006, 04:39 PM
 
During Tropical Storm Ernesto, my Durango went 30 mph through the streets that all you tree huggers with Hondas were floating in. My wake pushed them aside. I made it home. The tree huggers did not.

I paid 29k for my Durango, new. So you might check out one that is one or two years old.
     
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Oct 14, 2006, 04:54 PM
 
Well I'm going to be in Dubai for two years which is where I will be purchasing this car. The firm I will be working with there recommended I purchase a 4WD vehicle, to facilitate travel on the sand dunes and the like during site visits.
     
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Oct 14, 2006, 04:55 PM
 
Originally Posted by His Dudeness
During Tropical Storm Ernesto, my Durango went 30 mph through the streets that all you tree huggers with Hondas were floating in. My wake pushed them aside. I made it home. The tree huggers did not.

I paid 29k for my Durango, new. So you might check out one that is one or two years old.
God for you.

Maybe he won't have the hurricane/tropical storm aspect to worry about like you do though.
     
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Oct 14, 2006, 04:56 PM
 
Originally Posted by pheonixash
Well I'm going to be in Dubai for two years which is where I will be purchasing this car. The firm I will be working with there recommended I purchase a 4WD vehicle, to facilitate travel on the sand dunes and the like during site visits.
Isn't a Range Rover ideally suited for this kind of environment?
     
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Oct 14, 2006, 04:57 PM
 
Looks like a Range rover Sport would be ideal.

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Oct 14, 2006, 04:57 PM
 
Dubai is beautiful. Been there twice, very nice place. I'm sure you can find a good Land Cruiser over there.
     
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Oct 14, 2006, 05:00 PM
 
Originally Posted by His Dudeness
During Tropical Storm Ernesto, my Durango went 30 mph through the streets that all you tree huggers with Hondas were floating in. My wake pushed them aside.
Wow! This is so cool!
I made it home.
Yea, home sweet home
The tree huggers did not.



Buying a SUV to be prepared for the next tropical storm is a great idea.

Only in America!

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Oct 14, 2006, 05:08 PM
 
Originally Posted by pheonixash
Which car do I buy? (SUV)
Ask Cash.

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Oct 14, 2006, 06:05 PM
 
Originally Posted by pheonixash
Well I'm going to be in Dubai for two years which is where I will be purchasing this car. The firm I will be working with there recommended I purchase a 4WD vehicle, to facilitate travel on the sand dunes and the like during site visits.
If it's Dubai dunes you're after there's only one choice: Toyota Landcruiser.

Do not buy a Range Rover - they're still too unreliable to contemplate in a dune-ridden hostile environment. The only Land Rover to consider in such an environment is an enthusiast-rebuilt (i.e. modified) Defender 110 (or 130), preferably using a 300 TDi or V8 engine (avoid the modern Landy engines like the plague).

Just get a Landcruiser and you won't go far wrong. Don't forget the snorkel.
     
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Oct 14, 2006, 06:33 PM
 
Originally Posted by Nexus5
Wow! This is so cool!

Yea, home sweet home




Buying a SUV to be prepared for the next tropical storm is a great idea.

Only in America!

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Wow, your wit and the time it took to type ****ing gibberish astounds me. And yes, in America. The free country where people can buy what the **** they want.
     
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Oct 14, 2006, 06:38 PM
 
Originally Posted by Doofy
If it's Dubai dunes you're after there's only one choice: Toyota Landcruiser.

Do not buy a Range Rover - they're still too unreliable to contemplate in a dune-ridden hostile environment. The only Land Rover to consider in such an environment is an enthusiast-rebuilt (i.e. modified) Defender 110 (or 130), preferably using a 300 TDi or V8 engine (avoid the modern Landy engines like the plague).

Just get a Landcruiser and you won't go far wrong. Don't forget the snorkel.
What he said. Ignore my recommendations. I was simply pointing towards the car and driver article.
     
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Oct 14, 2006, 06:41 PM
 
Speaking of Landcruiser, you guys like the new FJ? Kind of cool I think. Not too expensive.
     
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Oct 14, 2006, 07:16 PM
 
Originally Posted by Railroader
What he said. Ignore my recommendations. I was simply pointing towards the car and driver article.
Don't get me wrong... ...I like the Range Rover (well, the mk1, mk2 and the current Sport) but I seriously wouldn't want to drive one beyond the reach of a tow truck. Well, not unless it'd been prepped by these guys anyways.

     
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Oct 14, 2006, 07:42 PM
 
Originally Posted by Railroader
Looks like a Range rover Sport would be ideal.

2006 Range Rover Sport - Previews - Car and Driver - June�2005
Yep and it's only 3x his budget ! And the sport sucks, you'll want the normal Range.

I third the Landcruiser. Don't know if you can get a new one in for that kind of money though.

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Oct 14, 2006, 08:27 PM
 
Originally Posted by Goldfinger
Yep and it's only 3x his budget ! And the sport sucks, you'll want the normal Range.

I third the Landcruiser. Don't know if you can get a new one in for that kind of money though.
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Oct 14, 2006, 11:42 PM
 
Out here in California, whenever you see an SUV that has been in an accident, it is always upside down. I believe the missnamed it. It should have been named AUV for Accident Upsidedown Vehicle.
     
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Oct 15, 2006, 12:03 AM
 
Must be the drivers in CA. Here in NJ I rarely see them flipped over. Maybe 2-3 times in 7 years. Of course, if you drive it like an idiot, you'll probably end up on your roof.
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Oct 15, 2006, 01:39 AM
 
What 'bout the new Audi, Q7 is it? I'm not sure about the off-roading capabilities of the car though. I was also looking at the BMW X5. I could probably adjust the budget to accommodate these cars if they are the correct choice.

I'll look into the Landcruiser though. That seems to be the most popular recommendation.
     
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Oct 15, 2006, 02:11 AM
 
Originally Posted by His Dudeness
During Tropical Storm Ernesto, my Durango went 30 mph through the streets that all you tree huggers with Hondas were floating in. My wake pushed them aside. I made it home. The tree huggers did not.

I paid 29k for my Durango, new. So you might check out one that is one or two years old.


Yeah, everybody should buy an SUV, because you never know when you'll be stuck in a tropical storm... especially if you live in a land locked area.
     
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Oct 15, 2006, 09:32 AM
 
The Toyota Landcruiser is a good choice. Even I, a dye in the wool Land Rover fan, is forced to admit that.
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Oct 15, 2006, 11:36 AM
 
I live in Dubai - Range Rovers, Land Cruiser and Nissan Patrols are popular here - easy to buy something when you arrive - used ones are listed on the boards at Choithrams and Spinneys (grocery stores) all the time.

Are you really going to drive on dunes or just sand? 99% of the SUVs here only drive on Sheikh Zayed Road (the main highway).
     
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Oct 15, 2006, 01:05 PM
 
Originally Posted by besson3c
Yeah, everybody should buy an SUV, because you never know when you'll be stuck in a tropical storm... especially if you live in a land locked area.

Ouch.
     
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Oct 16, 2006, 02:10 AM
 
Also consider the Land Rover LR3. Has more ground clearance and better approach and departure angles than a Land Crusier.

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Oct 16, 2006, 05:04 AM
 
i'm waiting for the Honda CR-V Hybrid (2007/2008 i think...)

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Oct 16, 2006, 06:05 AM
 
I'm waiting for the Durango SRT-8.
     
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Oct 16, 2006, 06:13 AM
 
Originally Posted by pheonixash
What 'bout the new Audi, Q7 is it? I'm not sure about the off-roading capabilities of the car though. I was also looking at the BMW X5. I could probably adjust the budget to accommodate these cars if they are the correct choice.

I'll look into the Landcruiser though. That seems to be the most popular recommendation.
They aren't horrible off road but not really meant to go off road. The Q7 appears to be a bit better off road than the X5. But it's an Audi *pukes*.

Keep in mind that you're talking 3x-4x your budget here. Unless you go used.

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Oct 16, 2006, 06:40 PM
 
Toyota FJ or Nissan Xterra are the two choices im debating over...

i used to hate the idea of an SUV, but being 6'4 makes it hell to get into a small car. i borrowed a relatives montero for a week and fell in love with sitting high and not squatting to get into the vehicle. their gas mileage isnt that bad unless you get an 8 cylinder beast, but if you get a 6cyl SUV...MPG is usually on par with a 6cyl auto.
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How DARE you suggest than an SUV has on-par mpg rating a car! How DARE you, sir!
     
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Originally Posted by Doofy View Post
If it's Dubai dunes you're after there's only one choice: Toyota Landcruiser.

Do not buy a Range Rover - they're still too unreliable to contemplate in a dune-ridden hostile environment. The only Land Rover to consider in such an environment is an enthusiast-rebuilt (i.e. modified) Defender 110 (or 130), preferably using a 300 TDi or V8 engine (avoid the modern Landy engines like the plague).

Just get a Landcruiser and you won't go far wrong. Don't forget the snorkel.


And I recommend you talk to these guys about any modifications.

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I'm not sure they could sell you the car but at least they'd be able to give you some good information about what modifications to do.

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FJ cruiser is a great vehicle.
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Originally Posted by His Dudeness View Post
During Tropical Storm Ernesto, my Durango went 30 mph through the streets that all you tree huggers with Hondas were floating in. My wake pushed them aside. I made it home. The tree huggers did not.

I paid 29k for my Durango, new. So you might check out one that is one or two years old.
Ummmmmm, 30 MPH in 2 feet of water is not only dumb, it's impossible. Also, why must anyone with a Honda be a tree-hugger? Maybe they just wanted a commuter car. Also, Durangos are UGLY now, and the SRT-8 is no exception.

I'd get a Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, or a mid-70's 4x4 Dodge PowerWagon, those things are indestructable. In fact, I'd get a pickup over an SUV for weight reasons.
     
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I'd recommend the diesel engine Honda CRV. Damn fine car. Damn fine engine.

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Originally Posted by sek929 View Post
Ummmmmm, 30 MPH in 2 feet of water is not only dumb, it's impossible. Also, why must anyone with a Honda be a tree-hugger? Maybe they just wanted a commuter car. Also, Durangos are UGLY now, and the SRT-8 is no exception.
Um...who said two feet of water?
     
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Oct 17, 2006, 05:32 PM
 
He said Hondas were floating.

So, I assumed, that if Hondas were unable to move at all in water, it would need to be at least up past the air intake, probably about 1.5-2 feet deep then.
     
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Oct 17, 2006, 05:43 PM
 
Even going 30 MPH in 6 inches of water would be retarded. Basically I am calling him out on B.S.

He probably did pass many Hondas on his way to safety, but I'm sure he was traveling at a much less ludicrous speed.
     
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Oct 18, 2006, 05:42 AM
 
Yeah, I might have been going 15 to 20. And yes, all these Hot Wheel cars were stalled out and floating.
     
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Oct 18, 2006, 01:23 PM
 
All it took was me driving 15-20 in less than six inches of water for my power steering to go out, it really wouldn't take that much to incapacitate my car, so I believe him.
     
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Oct 18, 2006, 01:25 PM
 
It's not about incapacitating a car, hydroplaning can occur with less than one inch of rain (much less) so If there was 6" of water on a roadway I wouldn't go any faster than +5 MPH over idle speed, even in my 4x4 truck. Any more is just tempting fate.

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Nov 16, 2006, 09:15 PM
 
My 3 kids grew our of your Prius which I have owned for 5 years (two different models) so this month I bought the fj Cruiser and really love it. Sure, I pay more, a lot more, for gas but I can haul kids, bikes, skis, boats, canoes and it is so fun to drive! The Prius was great and I am glad I drove them for so long but they kind of rip the soul out of driving. Now I have a 6 speed manual gear box and all kinds of torque. I have always loved cars and SUV, the right ones, are good, safe vehicles. I suggest you go test drive the Fj. It isn't for everyone both from style and drive experience standpoint. But you know right away after test driving one and walking around it. It either grabs you or it won't.
     
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There's quite the cult following out there:

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I have never been an SUV guy at all, but the form factor (not too big, but a very capable off road vehicle), not horrifically bad gas mileage, and a really fun to drive vehicle brought me over the evil SUV loving side of the fence!!

Also, if you ever need it go camping and you think you might need emergency shelter, the seats that flip up toward the front seat unbolt out and get the bed to go down flat!

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My parents have a 2005 Nissan Xterra Off Road. It's very nice. We have about 17,500 miles on it so far. No problems at all. It's never been back to the dealer. The 4.0 VQ V6 is a beauty of an engine. But don't expect steller MPG, the best we've gotten is 20 MPG, normally around town we get is 15-16 MPG, but my parents drive it pretty hard. It was originally $29,000 but with a ton of haggling we got it for a stellar $23,000.
     
 
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