[macgeek2005]

I have here a link to a video on youtube that I made, of the scene of boromir's death from Lord of the Rings, and I put Mozart's Requiem as the soundtrack, instead of Howard Shore's score.

I'd like to know how many of you like it better like this.

YouTube - The Departure of Boromir - Mozart Requiem

Thanks!

[olePigeon]

Maybe if they replaced Boromir with Elijah Wood, and killed him off 10 minutes into the first movie, that'd be a big improvement.

However, putting new music on Lord of the Rings is like dressing up a pig.

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by olePigeon 

However, putting new music on Lord of the Rings is like dressing up a pig.

Don't encourage him

-t

[Person Man]

Originally Posted by olePigeon 

Maybe if they replaced Boromir with Elijah Wood, and killed him off 10 minutes into the first movie, that'd be a big improvement.

Okay, okay, we get it: you hate the movies.

However, some of us enjoy them.

And I like the books, too.

[Peter]

The video you have requested is not available.

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by Person Man 

And I like the books, too.

Yes, but the soundtrack to the books sucked. Talk about silent

-t

[olePigeon]

Originally Posted by Person Man 

Okay, okay, we get it: you hate the movies.

However, some of us enjoy them.

And I like the books, too.

I think the books are awesome. I also have the BBC Radio Drama, which is also really cool.


Lord of the Rings is the Starship Troopers of fantasy.

[ghporter]

I've heard Mozart's Requiem many times, and it's cool, but not in keeping with the magical quality of the Shore soundtrack. Sure, it'd work fine, but it wouldn't fit.

I like Shore's music a lot, by the way.

Originally Posted by olePigeon

Lord of the Rings is the Starship Troopers of fantasy.

Peter Jackson took a lot of liberties with Tolkien's work, but all toward effectively telling three months of story in nine hours. Verhoeven, on the other hand, raped, pillaged, plundered and crapped on Heinlein's work. No comparison whatsoever. I much prefer what goes on in my head while I read Tolkien over what goes into my eyes when I watch those movies, but at least PJ TRIED to tell Tolkien's story. Verhoeven just had a bowel movement. Not that I have strong feelings about this...

[- - e r i k - -]

I think Peter Jackson did a fine job myself considering the source material he had to work with, and the whining nit-picking fans ala olePigeon he had to please.

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by olePigeon 

Lord of the Rings is the Starship Troopers of fantasy.

By "Starship Troopers of fantasy," you mean "way closer to the source material than anything else anybody but die-hard geeks would watch"? Because basically, only BBC radio dramas that nobody cares about would dare to adapt a book without actually adapting anything.

[Doofy]

I just watched part 1 again tonight. Figured it could do with some proper 80's metal going on in the background. Like Kull the Conqueror. And more breasts. Like Starship Troopers.

[BRussell]

Originally Posted by Chuckit 

Because basically, only BBC radio dramas that nobody cares about would dare to adapt a book without actually adapting anything.

And that BBC adaptation of LotR was the basis of Jackson's adaptation - no Old Forest/Tom Bombadil in the beginning, and no Scouring of the Shire at the end. I think Jackson did a terrific job on the films. Mozart's Requiem is too over-played in movies though.

[olePigeon]

Originally Posted by - - e r i k - - 

I think Peter Jackson did a fine job myself considering the source material he had to work with, and the whining nit-picking fans ala olePigeon he had to please.

I'm sure it could've been a great movie if they got someone other than Peter Jackson to direct it, and casted someone other than Elijah Wood. That didn't happen.

Peter Jackson had the scope to make the films great, he certainly milked all the money. Reading up on the production of the film before I saw it, I figured these could've been the next "Star Wars" of our generation. I'm more ticked off that this guy took a timeless classic and completely botched it.

And you're partially right. I'm a horrible nit-picker of movies of any genre. The crap that's coming out to the movies today don't care about stupid things like "continuity of the story line," or features as unimportant as "great acting."

Cheap tricks. That's all that people seem to care about.

If you didn't compare it to the book, the movies were just OK. No better or worse than any other summer blockbuster like Independence Day or Godzilla. Absolutely dismal casting and hit & miss special effects. Compared to the books, yes, they're about as far from it as Starship Troopers. Might as well have given Legolas a Lightsaber and call it a prequal.

[olePigeon]

Originally Posted by BRussell 

And that BBC adaptation of LotR was the basis of Jackson's adaptation - no Old Forest/Tom Bombadil in the beginning, and no Scouring of the Shire at the end.

The only relation between Jackson's aborted fetus and the BBC version is the Old Forest. That's it. Jackson must have some serious ADHD.

The BBC version definitely had the Scouring of the Shire. Mary, Pippen, and Sam return to the Shire to find Sandyman in league with "Sharky" (Saruman), realizing Sam's vision from Galadriel's pool. They overthrow him and Wormtongue kills Saruman.

[villalobos]

Originally Posted by olePigeon 

The only relation between Jackson's aborted fetus and the BBC version is the Old Forest. That's it. Jackson must have some serious ADHD.

The BBC version definitely had the Scouring of the Shire. Mary, Pippen, and Sam return to the Shire to find Sandyman in league with "Sharky" (Saruman), realizing Sam's vision from Galadriel's pool. They overthrow him and Wormtongue kills Saruman.

Wow, you are a bitter man.

To answer the OP, I am not a big fan of using classical music in movies. It really only worked for me in 2001, Space Odyssey and Death in Venice. In other cases, it sucks (IMHO )

[Eriamjh]

Howard Shore's Soundtrack is perfect.

[ghporter]

There isn't enough complaining about Verhoeven's monstrosity here... Jackson did a lot better with what he started with than Verhoeven ever intended to do. And Peter gave a lot of people an example of why they should read the books to begin with. I don't know the numbers off hand, but I'm certain that there was a huge surge in Tolkien book sales, one that may actually still be going. So how is that bad?

[olePigeon]

Originally Posted by villalobos 

Wow, you are a bitter man.

To answer the OP, I am not a big fan of using classical music in movies. It really only worked for me in 2001, Space Odyssey and Death in Venice. In other cases, it sucks (IMHO )

John Williams did an awesome job with Star Wars, Indiana Jones, and Harry Potter. That guy's a genius. You can't imagine any other music for those "theme" songs for those movies.

Which, by the way, you'll notice that the music for the 4th Harry Potter film was pretty crummy. Jo Rowling decided to have an all British cast and crew, which didn't include John Williams.

[Person Man]

Originally Posted by ghporter 

There isn't enough complaining about Verhoeven's monstrosity here... Jackson did a lot better with what he started with than Verhoeven ever intended to do. And Peter gave a lot of people an example of why they should read the books to begin with. I don't know the numbers off hand, but I'm certain that there was a huge surge in Tolkien book sales, one that may actually still be going. So how is that bad?

It got my father interested in the books.

He really liked the movies, and we ended up tracking down Greek translations of the books for him when he expressed an interest in reading them. And he's not one to read many books.

I'd read the books once a year if I had time. As it is, I settle for reading them once every two years. And working my way through the twelve volume "History of Middle Earth" series by Christopher Tolkien... fun to see how JRR arrived at the story he did.

Did you know that in early drafts, Strider (Aragorn) was once called Trotter? And that he was a hobbit, and not a man?

[- - e r i k - -]

In case you didn't get the notice: LOTR definitely is the Star Wars of hour generation. Just because you didn't like it doesn't mean millions of others did.

[vmarks]

I would have used Lachrymosa instead of Requiem Aeternam from Mozart's Requiem.

You use Lachrymosa because it's the "Day of Sadness" part of the suite.

If I did use Requiem Aeternam as you did, I would have started it a few seconds earlier so that the first set of strings/brass that are with his lunging after being mortally wounded tie with HIS stabbing with his sword, not the swing of the axe at him.

Let him get the dominant part of the music there.

[macgeek2005]

Originally Posted by vmarks 

I would have used Lachrymosa instead of Requiem Aeternam from Mozart's Requiem.

You use Lachrymosa because it's the "Day of Sadness" part of the suite.

If I did use Requiem Aeternam as you did, I would have started it a few seconds earlier so that the first set of strings/brass that are with his lunging after being mortally wounded tie with HIS stabbing with his sword, not the swing of the axe at him.

Let him get the dominant part of the music there.

Yeah, the lacrymosa would have worked too. And I don't know exactly what you mean about the timing, but i'm sure you're right. It wasn't fit perfectly.

By the way, I also did the same scene with The Life of David Gale as the soundtrack. I think alot of you might like it better than the mozart one.

If the mods can add an option the poll that would be great. Here it is.

YouTube - The Departure of Boromir - The Life of David Gale Soundtrack