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Blu-ray/HD DVD... Who is winning? (Page 104)
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Originally Posted by goMac 
Really? You want me to go through this again?
Because then I can have it sitting in a menu on my AppleTV where I can pull it up any time I want without having to mess with an optical disk. That's the simplest explanation, but if you really want I can give you more reasons.
So you'd rather trade quality for convenience? I'd rather just pop in the DVD itself. A few seconds on the menu system doesn't warrant bitching about the file meant for your iPod.
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``Paramount's current plan is to continue to support the HD DVD format,''
That could mean the next 10 minutes.
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Originally Posted by starman
So you'd rather trade quality for convenience? I'd rather just pop in the DVD itself. A few seconds on the menu system doesn't warrant bitching about the file meant for your iPod.
Um, I don't want to trade anything for convenience. Which is why I'm not impressed by Fox's sub-DVD quality iTunes files. I can get 720p files from XBox Live. I'm hoping Apple upgrades iTunes for 720p... I'm not expecting a 720p iTunes file on a DVD, but I'd at least like it to be the same quality as the DVD itself.
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Originally Posted by goMac
Um, I don't want to trade anything for convenience. Which is why I'm not impressed by Fox's sub-DVD quality iTunes files. I can get 720p files from XBox Live. I'm hoping Apple upgrades iTunes for 720p... I'm not expecting a 720p iTunes file on a DVD, but I'd at least like it to be the same quality as the DVD itself.
AppleTV is a very lacklustre performer... at least compared to the iPod. It would make little sense to target AppleTV at this point over the iPod.
Furthermore, we're talking DVD here. A second copy with 720p video isn't going to be viable on DVD. On Blu-ray maybe, but so far this rumour is a DVD rumour.
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You don't get it. This isn't meant for you and you alone. Sure, you could get 720p from Xbox Live, but not everyone has Xbox Live. And, last time I checked, you can't transfer from XBL to your iPod anyway.
It's not a bad move and prevents piracy. I don't see why you have such a problem with it.
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Originally Posted by starman
You don't get it. This isn't meant for you and you alone. Sure, you could get 720p from Xbox Live, but not everyone has Xbox Live. And, last time I checked, you can't transfer from XBL to your iPod anyway.
It's not a bad move and prevents piracy. I don't see why you have such a problem with it.
I'm not against it, but as you said, it's not for me.
It just doesn't solve the problem that managed copy did. So now I wait again for Macworld to see if Apple upgrades their video to 720p.
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Originally Posted by Eug
AppleTV is a very lacklustre performer... at least compared to the iPod. It would make little sense to target AppleTV at this point over the iPod.
Furthermore, we're talking DVD here. A second copy with 720p video isn't going to be viable on DVD. On Blu-ray maybe, but so far this rumour is a DVD rumour.
Mac Rumors: Fox DVDs To Include iTunes Compatible Digital Copies?
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Originally Posted by Eug
AppleTV is a very lacklustre performer... at least compared to the iPod. It would make little sense to target AppleTV at this point over the iPod.
Ideally, I'd like them to target both. iTunes files look even pretty awful on a small laptop screen.
Originally Posted by Eug
Furthermore, we're talking DVD here. A second copy with 720p video isn't going to be viable on DVD. On Blu-ray maybe, but so far this rumour is a DVD rumour.
Right, and as I said, I'm not expected 720p on DVD, but I'd at least like the same quality as the DVD itself.
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Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES
That's kind of what the last 20 posts have been about. Just a little.
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So you just want a second DVD-quality version specifically for your Apple TV?
That's not going to happen.
Ever.
Just rip it with Handbrake if you want.
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The Apple TV can't even do 5.1 audio properly (or DIVX without a hack) so just for that it is off the map for me.
The Xbox and Connect 360 plays divx files in 5.1 audio so it is cheaper and better.
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Originally Posted by goMac
Ideally, I'd like them to target both. iTunes files look even pretty awful on a small laptop screen.
Right, and as I said, I'm not expected 720p on DVD, but I'd at least like the same quality as the DVD itself.
That would probably take about 2.5ish Mbps, with a better H.264 profile. ie. It would be completely incompatible for the iPod, and it would take up far too much space. Not gonna happen.
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So back to Blu-Ray vs. HD-DVD and not Apple downloads and DVD's...
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HD VMD shipping soon
New Medium Enterprises used the backdrop of CES 2008 to announce that its HD VMD players would be shipping into the US market. Unlike Blu-ray and HD DVD, this format uses the old red-laser technology found in standard DVD to produce a high definition picture.
The player would be priced at $199 and would be available through Amazon, PCRush.com, and NMEStore.com. It would ship with two movies, Mother Ghost and Cutting Room.
Herein lies the problem for HD VMD. The format has no major studio support. Only SME Entertainment was listed as a partner, which said it would bring "rare and classic" films and television shows to HD VMD.
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Originally Posted by Eug
HD VMD shipping soon
New Medium Enterprises used the backdrop of CES 2008 to announce that its HD VMD players would be shipping into the US market. Unlike Blu-ray and HD DVD, this format uses the old red-laser technology found in standard DVD to produce a high definition picture..
This is going to do so ridiculously bad in the west it isn't even worth talking about.
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Originally Posted by goMac
When I talked about managed copy on HD-DVD I was crazy, but now that Bluray is talking about the same thing, it's the best thing since sliced bread? I see. No double standard here at all.
Actually I mentioned it because you always said BR didn't have managed copy and I said they did.
This PSP version on a BR disks is more than any HD-DVD ever did.
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