[hyteckit]

For whatever reason, some people here think it's a battle between Sony and Microsoft, Xbox 360 vs. PS3.

[aristotles]

Originally Posted by hyteckit 

For whatever reason, some people here think it's a battle between Sony and Microsoft, Xbox 360 vs. PS3.

Maybe that's because the PS3 is a blu-ray player and MSFT sold an HD DVD add-on and had a guy called Amir (former VP or HD DVD section inside MSFT) on AVS touting HD DVD and spreading FUD about BD 50 yield rates.

[mrtew]

What are you talking about when you say that you ITMS song purchases are only good on an iPod or computer??? You can burn them on a CD and play them on any device that plays them such as a car or walkman or stereo etc. I can't even think of a device that you CAN'T use to play them except maybe an 8-track player or a Zune :-]

[goMac]

Originally Posted by aristotles 

Did Managed copy ever see the light of day? Was it Mac compatible? I don't recall you answering my questions. Does it really exist or was it all talk and is it MSFT specific? HD DVD and Blu-ray both use ACSS encryption and Blu-ray was in the design phase "before" AOD even existed let alone when it was renamed to HD DVD and Toshiba decided to switch to blue-violet lasers like Blu-ray was using.

I think you're missing the point. Competition between Bluray and HD-DVD was what would have ensured that managed copy saw the light of day.

Originally Posted by aristotles 

Prove to me that it was not vaporware and that it was not tied to the MSFT OS and ecosystem. Give us some links.

Again, you're not understanding. The point of managed copy was so that one format could claim it was more consumer friendly than the other. With the competition gone, there is no more reason for managed copy.

Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if HD-DVD finishes managed copy in one last attempt to hold off Bluray.

[TETENAL]

goMac, you were sold an empty promise.

[aristotles]

Originally Posted by goMac 

I think you're missing the point. Competition between Bluray and HD-DVD was what would have ensured that managed copy saw the light of day.



Again, you're not understanding. The point of managed copy was so that one format could claim it was more consumer friendly than the other. With the competition gone, there is no more reason for managed copy.

Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if HD-DVD finishes managed copy in one last attempt to hold off Bluray.

But if it is limited to windows only and at the discretion of MSFT, how is that consumer friendly? You might notice that the windows only WMA stores never took off while iTMS did.

[Eug]

I figured as much, but now we have confirmation...

Blu-ray: Early adopters knew what they were getting into

Representatives at the Blu-ray booth at CES told BetaNews that the PlayStation 3 is currently the only player they would recommend, due to upcoming changes to the platform. But Pioneer, Samsung, Panasonic and Sony have all been selling standalone Blu-ray players to customers.

When BetaNews asked developers of BD Live whether they were concerned about a backlash from early adopters who supported the format from the beginning, we were told: "They knew what they were getting into."

When BetaNews asked why these manufacturers rushed out players that were not fully capable and potentially buggy due to their BD-J implementation, the Blu-ray partner pointed blame across the room to HD DVD. "We should have waited another year to introduce Blu-ray to the public, but the format war changed the situation," he said. HD DVD was already coming and the BDA had no choice but to launch Blu-ray.

[goMac]

Originally Posted by TETENAL 

goMac, you were sold an empty promise.

I didn't buy anything, so I wasn't sold any promises. Seriously, I haven't bought an HD-DVD player yet because there is no managed copy. And honestly, if they added managed copy, I would still buy an HD-DVD drive.

Originally Posted by aristotles 

But if it is limited to windows only and at the discretion of MSFT, how is that consumer friendly? You might notice that the windows only WMA stores never took off while iTMS did.

Managed copy wasn't at the discretion of MSFT and was not limited to Windows only. Managed copy is actually at the discretion of each studio.

Managed copy isn't based on any Microsoft technology at all.

[jokell82]

Even more rumors, although these come from Bill Hunt so take them with a salt mine:
Sources say Universal and Paramount are both going Blu - Engadget

[analogue SPRINKLES]

Yeeeehaaaaw!

Petition to keep HD DVD alive appears online - Engadget HD

[Eug]

Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES 

Yeeeehaaaaw!

Petition to keep HD DVD alive appears online - Engadget HD

Heh. Lame.

[analogue SPRINKLES]

In all seriousness has an online petition ever worked for anything?

[icruise]

When an online petition appears, that's usually the death knell for any cause. But seriously, what do these guys think they're going to accomplish with something like this?

[mrtew]

Originally Posted by exca1ibur 

For any PS3 owners that want to stream content from their Mac...
Nullriver Software ~ Media Link PS3

That's is so freaking SWEET! It's almost like a free AppleTV! This PS3 is the best purchase I ever made and anyone that reads this whole thread knows that I was never a Sony or Blu-ray fan-boy until I bought it last month but I sure am now! It's just one cool surprise after another!

[analogue SPRINKLES]

Originally Posted by icruise 

When an online petition appears, that's usually the death knell for any cause. But seriously, what do these guys think they're going to accomplish with something like this?

Salvage their investment in their $99 stand alone player?

[analogue SPRINKLES]

Originally Posted by mrtew 

That's is so freaking SWEET! It's almost like a free AppleTV! This PS3 is the best purchase I ever made and anyone that reads this whole thread knows that I was never a Sony or Blu-ray fan-boy until I bought it last month but I sure am now! It's just one cool surprise after another!

They also have it for the 360 if anyone is interested.

[icruise]

Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES 

Salvage their investment in their $99 stand alone player?

Well duh. But I mean, do they really think some studio execs are going to read an online petition and change their mind about this?

[jokell82]

Originally Posted by icruise 

Well duh. But I mean, do they really think some studio execs are going to read an online petition and change their mind about this?

The sad truth is that they probably do.