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Severed Hand of Skywalker · Feb 20, 2007, 02:17 PM

So as of a couple weeks ago there are more BR titles than HD-DVD.

Anywho, just when we all thought 50 gigs of storage was way more than we could ever need... Disney announces Pirates will be on TWO BR disks. One 50 gig disk for the movie and one 25 gig disk for the extras:

Disney 'Pirates of the Caribbean' Booty to Include Two Discs, BD-Java Features | High-Def Digest

Gossamer · Feb 20, 2007, 02:20 PM

$35 for a movie...wow.

icruise · Feb 20, 2007, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker

So as of a couple weeks ago there are more BR titles than HD-DVD.

Anywho, just when we all thought 50 gigs of storage was way more than we could ever need... Disney announces Pirates will be on TWO BR disks. One 50 gig disk for the movie and one 25 gig disk for the extras:

MIssion Impossible 3 is already on 2 BR discs.

Originally Posted by Gossamer

$35 for a movie...wow.

What's so surprising about that? The MSRP for a lot of DVDs is set that high. And back when I had a laserdisc player (before DVD) I paid 2-3 times that for special editions of movies that didn't have nearly as good a picture or special features.

Gossamer · Feb 20, 2007, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by icruise

What's so surprising about that? The MSRP for a lot of DVDs is set that high. And back when I had a laserdisc player (before DVD) I paid 2-3 times that for special editions of movies that didn't have nearly as good a picture or special features.

Call me sheltered, but I've never seen one online or in a store for that much.

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Feb 20, 2007, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by Gossamer

$35 for a movie...wow.

They all seem to have really high list prices but I am finding they are selling for only $5 more than the DVD.

jokell82 · Feb 20, 2007, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by Gossamer

Call me sheltered, but I've never seen one online or in a store for that much.

Go to Suncoast one day.

analogue SPRINKLES · Mar 16, 2007, 09:36 AM

BLU-RAY ASCENDING By LOU LUMENICK - Entertainment - New York Post Online Edition

mitchell_pgh · Mar 16, 2007, 10:49 AM

Interesting read... I noticed the other day that my local blockbuster has both HD-DVD and Blu-ray. Once one of them disappears... I think I may buy a player.

It's the same thing I did with the Divx vs. DVD war... damn... I'm old.

analogue SPRINKLES · Mar 16, 2007, 10:55 AM

I have nothing really against HD-DVD other than the disk capacity being 50% of BR which is the only reason I don't support it. They have been doing a good job so far but nothing that makes it THAT much better than BR.

BR had a iffy start with player delays and a couple so so looking titles but it was overblown as HDDVD had some bad looking disks also. In the past 3 months BR has come a LONG way.

The fact is since the PS3 shipped in Dec there are more BR titles, more in the pipeline, more studio support, more BR players in the market with more shipping by year end, almost triple the sales of HDDVD, BR quality is the same as HDDVD even when using MPEG2 over MP4, and in many cases BR is cheaper as some HDDVD disks also have the DVD version on the other side. Cool if you REALLY want it for some reason but if you don't your forking over at least $5 more per title.

analogika · Mar 16, 2007, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by mitchell_pgh

Interesting read... I noticed the other day that my local blockbuster has both HD-DVD and Blu-ray. Once one of them disappears... I think I may buy a player.

It's the same thing I did with the Divx vs. DVD war...

Which of those disappeared?

analogue SPRINKLES · Mar 16, 2007, 11:14 AM

A serious question: How do HD-DVD supports see the format BEATING Blu-ray. Not making a good effort or having respectable sales... but BEATING.

If you can't see it winning and BR off the market why continue to hold out or support it?

Gossamer · Mar 16, 2007, 11:19 AM

I can get an RCA HDV-5000 for $300 brand new in box. Would this be worth buying to flip somewhere else? It retails for $466 on Amazon, and apparently it's the same as the Toshiba HD-1 (maybe?) which is selling for about $300ish on eBay.

analogue SPRINKLES · Mar 16, 2007, 12:10 PM

My lord that thing looks like the first VHS players. All it needs is top loading and a bit of wood grain

Montezuma58 · Mar 16, 2007, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by Gossamer

I can get an RCA HDV-5000 for $300 brand new in box. Would this be worth buying to flip somewhere else? It retails for $466 on Amazon, and apparently it's the same as the Toshiba HD-1 (maybe?) which is selling for about $300ish on eBay.

It's the same as the the Toshiba HD-A1. You'd probably have to get it much cheaper to be worth the hassle of reselling it. The newer HD-A2 can be purchased for around $360 new easily.

Gossamer · Mar 16, 2007, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by Montezuma58

It's the same as the the Toshiba HD-A1. You'd probably have to get it much cheaper to be worth the hassle of reselling it. The newer HD-A2 can be purchased for around $360 new easily.

Ah, the A1. Thanks for the info.

analogue SPRINKLES · Mar 16, 2007, 12:53 PM

Some more numbers:
Blu-ray Disk Sales Ahead OF HD DVD - Yahoo! News

jokell82 · Mar 16, 2007, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES

A serious question: How do HD-DVD supports see the format BEATING Blu-ray. Not making a good effort or having respectable sales... but BEATING.

If you can't see it winning and BR off the market why continue to hold out or support it?

The only way either format wins is by exclusive content. Most consumers couldn't give a sh*t about disc capacity, they care about what movies they can watch.

icruise · Mar 16, 2007, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by analogika

Which of those disappeared?

DIVX did (but not DivX -- who the hell thought it would be a good idea to name these two things so similarly?)

Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES

A serious question: How do HD-DVD supports see the format BEATING Blu-ray. Not making a good effort or having respectable sales... but BEATING.

If you can't see it winning and BR off the market why continue to hold out or support it?

For the people backing HD-DVD (by this I mean the people who own a stake in it and who would profit from its success), it makes a lot of sense to continue supporting the format. Even if they don't think they can win, half (or a third or whatever) of the market is better than nothing. For consumers, though, I can't see any reason to back a losing horse. If things continue as they are, I don't see HD-DVD ever beating Blu-ray.

P.S. As I was typing this, the UPS man delivered two Blu-ray movies to my door.