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Blu-ray/HD DVD... Who is winning? (Page 140)
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Originally Posted by mrtew
WHAT??? You think receiving one box-set for xmas 2 months ago should have been enough to push 'your' side to victory? You think that the world should drag out this stupid war for a few more years while you decide which of the two basically identical formats your next disc will be in? There was never any meaningful 'choice' or any need for or benefit to the 'war'. The whole competition was a stupid pointless waste of years and money and I say thank god it's over and I can't believe you wish you still had more time to decide which option suited you. Dang.
Ummmm...What? I said that I got a $400MSRP player for $85-I though that would indicate that Circuit City was taking action without having "official" word from Toshiba that they were pulling the plug. I also thought that it would have been very clear that I was bemoaning that the whole idea of having a bunch of wheeler-dealers driving the market selection process was bilge and crap; if BR is better than HD, fine-let the consumers decide, not some executive taking under the table money to make his decision. That's all. I don't have a "side" on this-I don't have ANYTHING HD except for this one box set and now a ludicrously low priced player for it.
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I was at Best Buy picking up Office 2008 and the guy ahead of me was bringing back his HD-DVD player. It failed because he bought it in MAY.
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Originally Posted by Lateralus
...  Did you actually read my post?
There's a reason I said "Be sure to go through all the categories and each page.", because there's going on 140~ titles and not every one is available on the first page.
The $19.95 titles at Amazon are not the same as the $12.20 titles at DeepDiscount. The ones that are $12.20 at DD are $14.95 at Amazon. The ones that are $18-something at DD are $19.95 at Amazon. There are even a few titles at DD that are more expensive than they are in the Amazon B2G1. All of the above makes the B2G1 a significantly better deal.
I also stated that I purchased the A20 from NewEgg yesterday in the same post. It also sold out this morning.
You say that as if it isn't what I said?
My apologies Lateralus. I guess I misread your original post. When I went to the link, the page indicated you could select "from the following list" so I incorrectly assumed that you could only pick from those movies.
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Originally Posted by starman
I was at Best Buy picking up Office 2008 and the guy ahead of me was bringing back his HD-DVD player. It failed because he bought it in MAY.
Now that's just stupid.
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it feels so good when you bet on the winning horse
I love this thread! 
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Originally Posted by Madrag
it feels so good when you bet on the winning horse
I love this thread!
Ya same here. I'm glad I wasn't seduced by $200 players and then left over with 20 movies that cost me $30 each. When I have $600 in movies this early on I want to make sure that $200 I saved on the player isn't going to make my movies an inconvenience in the future.
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Originally Posted by jokell82
Now that's just stupid.
Oh, no dude. People try to find ways of getting their money back. When I was working for an art store, we had a guy come in EIGHT YEARS after buying a framed print to get us to replace it FOR FREE because it was in a flood in his basement. I refused. He told me that I was the one with the problem.
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Originally Posted by Madrag
it feels so good when you bet on the winning horse
I love this thread!
Same here. I was heavily considering going neutral in early January because I really wanted to add a few HD DVD exclusives to my library. But I decided to wait until after CES in case anything was announced. I suspected that Warner might make an announcement one way or another. Sure enough, Warner's announcement made me pause and I held off buying into HD DVD. I thought HD DVD might put up more of a fight through 2008, but I'm surprised Toshiba is calling it quits just barely a month after Warner's defection.
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Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES
Ya same here. I'm glad I wasn't seduced by $200 players and then left over with 20 movies that cost me $30 each. When I have $600 in movies this early on I want to make sure that $200 I saved on the player isn't going to make my movies an inconvenience in the future.
And it feels crappy betting on the losing horse. NOt that I would consider my $130 investment too much of a loss, it still sucks.
I figured that HD DVD would lose, I just didn't think it would happen so fast. I figured I would need both players for a bit. Guess not.
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I know a lot of the HD owners here think their investment is safe because there will be a heap of backwards compatible or hybrid players on the market in the future.
With Toshiba rumored to completely stop all HD hardware I don't see next to any hybrid players on the market after this year.
Better buy that $500 Hybrid now if you want to "save" 
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Slashdot is running a poll relevant to this discussion:
Slashdot Poll
Looks like only 14% of respondents plan on getting a player this year, while 22% are betting on downloads. Biggest winner appears to be DVD. 
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Engadget is reporting:
Despite Red's inability to make any real public statement, Japanese publication Nikkei has it that Toshiba president Atsutoshi Nishida will be announcing the final discontinuation of HD DVD tomorrow, as well as halted sales of hardware and media by March (as in days from now). Apparently Toshiba will pull its units from retail shelves, but has no intention to give burned early adopters any refunds (no kidding?); it sounds like the ceasefire will include the bare PC drives as well, so those hoping to keep using HD DVD as a personal data storage medium probably won't have much luck. Apparently the announcement will come alongside Toshiba's plans to build new semiconductor fabs, which we're sure they'll try to spin as an advancement that far overshadows the hill of beans (read: hundreds of millions) they've lost in the format war.
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Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES
With Toshiba rumored to completely stop all HD hardware I don't see next to any hybrid players on the market after this year.
Better buy that $500 Hybrid now if you want to "save"
On that note, Samsung is refocusing its efforts on Blu-ray only: Samsung expected to focus efforts on Blu-ray - Engadget.
They've already pulled their BD-UP5000 combo player, and I really wonder if they'll even bother releasing the BD-UP5500.
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The latest news from Japan indicates that HD-DVD hardware/software will not be available next month. That means no more movies on the format. I suppose they (Toshiba, Paramount, Universal, Etc.) figured it was financially best to pull the plug completely rather than phasing it out over the next couple of months. I wonder if they see some liability selling players to anyone now, facing a possible lawsuit from them later. Perhaps the margins are so poor it is better to scrap the hardware instead of selling them at such a low price and still have to give away several movies. As some have pointed out the players are selling for less than the cost of the movies.
If you have an extensive collection of movies on the format, I suppose it makes sense to hang onto the hardware. But it seems somewhat foolish to buy into it now.
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I guess the echo is back!
Tuesday may come as soon as later Monday for some of us due to the time change. The Sun is rising right now for the last time for HD-DVD in Japan.
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It's dead, Jim

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