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Blu-ray/HD DVD... Who is winning? (Page 21)
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Originally Posted by icruise 
Of course they will support whichever format becomes the standard. So will pretty much everybody else. I imagine we'll eventually see Sony-branded HD-DVD players if HD-DVD wins. And while Microsoft may not be *the* driving force behind HD-DVD, they are *a* driving force behind it, and will stand to benefit if it wins.
I'm pretty sure it's been posted in here before, but Microsoft wins no matter which format wins. And in all actuality, they'd probably benefit more from BluRay winning as they would get to sell another addon for the 360.
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MS has its hands in both the HD DVD and Blu-ray pots, but it's clear that MS is heavily promoting HD DVD. Likely part of the reason is that they were instrumental in the development on iHD. Ironically, so was Disney, but then Disney went Blu-ray. 
It's tough to deny that MS is a big HD DVD proponent when they drive a big semi around North America promoting HD DVD. 
In fact, a VP of Microsoft and friends are coming to Toronto to demo HD DVD for anyone who's interested, likely in a few weeks.
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Originally Posted by Eug
It's tough to deny that MS is a big HD DVD proponent when they drive a big semi around North America promoting HD DVD.
Lets just hope that truck results in 2 million new HD-DVD customers this year
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Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES
Lets just hope that truck results in 2 million new HD-DVD customers this year
Paramount's prediction of 1.7 million HD DVD players total by the end of 2007 seems reasonable.
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Korean Newswire on Samsung Universal player
Seoul, Apr 13 (Korea Newswire)-- Samsung Electronics Co., LTD., a leader in consumer electronics and digital media technologies, and the first company to introduce a Blu-ray disc player will introduce a dual format High-Definition (HD) optical disc player in time for the holidays.
Samsung’s Duo HD player (BD-UP5000) will fully support both HD-DVD and Blu-ray Disc formats and their interactive technologies, HDi and BD-Java. With the Duo HD consumers can enjoy additional studio content such as trailers, director’s comments, more elaborate interactive menus and behind the scene footage. The new Duo HD joins Samsung’s next generation DVD line-up which includes Samsung’s second generation Blu-ray player available at retail this month. Together, these two models offer the consumer a strong line of High-Definition players to match Samsung’s award winning, and best selling, line of HDTVs.
"We welcome Samsung's Duo HD player as another solution in the marketplace that will help reduce consumer confusion and buyer hesitancy towards HD media," said Ron Sanders, President of Warner Home Video. "This is an innovative product that can move us closer to mainstream consumer adoption of HD technologies."
“We are very pleased to announce the upcoming release of our Duo HD player. Consumers are hungry for more HD content but are currently confused about competing formats. Samsung’s Duo HD player will allow consumers access to every HD movie title available regardless of the authoring format. Samsung is committed to making life simpler through technology and will market next generation DVD products which will satisfy the consumer and market requirement. This is a big win for the consumer.
As a member of the DVD Forum and contributor to the DVD Industry, we recognize that both HD-DVD and BD formats have merits. As such, we have decided to market a dual format player. Samsung is flexible to market a stand-alone HD-DVD player whenever consumers demand it. Our main concern is not technology but consumer choice” said Dongsoo Jun, Executive Vice President of the Digital AV Division at Samsung Electronics.
Expect many more IMO.
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... but is it cheap?
By cheap of course, I mean $1k or less. I'm not paying $1200. (Well, it does have iHD support, so if it was made well, unlike the first gen BD player, I might bite.)
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Originally Posted by Brien
... but is it cheap?
By cheap of course, I mean $1k or less. I'm not paying $1200. (Well, it does have iHD support, so if it was made well, unlike the first gen BD player, I might bite.)
Should be under $1000 with full support for BD-Java and HDi. That's not bad because the MSRP of their BD-P1200 is $799 so it's like buying a HD DVD add on for a mere $200 more.
I figure the second generation Univeral players will be %40 cheaper.
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The fact that $1199 is outrageous for a borked LG player doesn't make $999 cheap, even for a feature complete Samsung dual-format hybrid.
$199 is cheap. $999 is just low-enough-to-get-your-foot-in-the-door. Still, it is encouraging to see a potential end to this war.
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Originally Posted by Eug
The fact that $1199 is outrageous for a borked LG player doesn't make $999 cheap, even for a feature complete Samsung dual-format hybrid.
$199 is cheap. $999 is just low-enough-to-get-your-foot-in-the-door. Still, it is encouraging to see a potential end to this war.
We've a long way to mass adoption.
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$999 is no where near cheap for general interest. I mean for that money you are better buying either HD or BR player and some movies and when one is a winner it still might end up cheaper to buy a new player and replace many of your now out-dated titles.
Even then you can keep your old player as long as you have the free ports. It isn't like they will expire.
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Call me when HD movies players are in the $100 - $200 range.
The PS3 had me tempted to buy one, but I may just bag it all and wait to see what Leopard has in it this fall. If DVD player can handle HD-DVD or BD, I may make the plunge.
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Take this as you will...
This French article claims Kenwood and Hitachi will announce HD DVD players this year.
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Lastly, for finished, will know that clan HD-DVD is proud to count in his rows two new allies, and not of least since it acts of Hitachi and Kenwood. The two popular marks in Europe, but twice elsewhere, thus give their support for this format, which is of good news for Toshiba.
We will say some to you more very soon.
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Originally Posted by jokell82
What gives the 360 the edge in my opinion is the option to use a universal remote with it. No IR port on the PS3 means I wont be using one as an HD player anytime soon.
Actually, the PS3 supports USB IR adapters (I've tried it) so you could in fact use a universal remote if you wanted.
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Yeah... I read those as well (and in fact linked to one of them above). But my point is that all of these news stories are based (as far as I can determine) entirely on that one press release about Apple joining the Blu-ray association. But they don't take into account Apple's later claim to be supporting them both.
In other words, (as I said several times above) the media seemed to take Apple's joining the Blu-ray association as an indication that they had chosen a side, when the facts don't seem to support that. I personally think Apple is a lot more likely to support Blu-ray, but I can't prove that. We just have to wait and see what they do.
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Originally Posted by aristotles
Actually, a quick glance shows that we had moved on in this thread about this topic... until you posted about it again.
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