[analogue SPRINKLES]

Originally Posted by Eug 

Well, this is MAJORLY disappointing...

There are lip sync problems on The Matrix.

The thread above is talking mostly about Toshiba players, but I have confirmed it with my 360 HD DVD. It is present with both the DD+ and TrueHD tracks. It looks like maybe the other two movies are OK, but that's not good enough.

Somebody must have been asleep at the wheel. I just don't understand how in the second year of the format this could have happened. I noticed the issues within 3 seconds of the first dialogue I heard, so it's not as if it isn't obvious. I don't know if it's a disc issue or a player issue, but either way, it shouldn't have happened, esp. with a huge release such as this one.

I bet it is a player software problem or at worse case they will offer a disk replacement. Pain in the ass though.

Good thing it isn't coming for a while on BR as they have time to fix it.

[goMac]

Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES 

I bet it is a player software problem or at worse case they will offer a disk replacement. Pain in the ass though.

Good thing it isn't coming for a while on BR as they have time to fix it.

Sounds like a batch of bad discs.

[analogue SPRINKLES]

Originally Posted by goMac 

Sounds like a batch of bad discs.

You really got to wonder how a wide batch of disks ship where only the audio and video are out of sync on one movie of 3.

[aristotles]

Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES 

"Up until March 23rd, HD-DVD sales were doing pretty well in the European market. Then along came the PS3 and snagged 87% of HD disc sales for the following week. Blu-Ray is still selling pretty well, outselling HD-DVD by an average margin of 3-to1. This certainly bodes well for the PS3's success, considering earlier sentiments made by analysts and developers.

How well is Blu-Ray doing in other markets, compared to HD-DVD? In Japan, the figures are a lot higher, with Blu-Ray pwning 96% of the entire HD market. If Blu-Ray sales continue to beat out HD-DVD with additional market share, the next gen format war may have a clear victor. Now lets make quick with that Matrix Blu-Ray set already!"

SNAP!
Europe sees Blu-Ray sales boosted by PS3 - PS3 Fanboy

"This means that despite the PS3 being available for only one month of this four-month period, Blu-ray software sales account for over 64% of the total volume since the start of the year."

Here is another site reporting on the correlation between PS3 and Blu-ray sales:
DailyTech - European Blu-ray Disc Sales Jump Following PS3 Release

Were there not nay sayers here that said that the PS3 would be a small factor as it would have a small attach rate to Blu-ray?

With the recent Firmware update providing Blu-ray 24fps progressive (film) mode, super white, full RGB through HDMI and DVD upscaling, many people at the AVS forums are now hailing the PS3 as one of the best Blu-ray players on the market.

[Eug]

Originally Posted by goMac 

Sounds like a batch of bad discs.

?

Lip sync issues as described are almost never related to "a bad batch of discs".

[aristotles]

Originally Posted by Eug 

?

Lip sync issues as described are almost never related to "a bad batch of discs".

Agreed. It would most certainly be the result of a bad encode but one wonders where their QA and QC people were since something like that should have never gotten past the master disc.

[analogue SPRINKLES]

Originally Posted by aristotles 

With the recent Firmware update providing Blu-ray 24fps progressive (film) mode, super white, full RGB through HDMI and DVD upscaling, many people at the AVS forums are now hailing the PS3 as one of the best Blu-ray players on the market.

Yes it is very very true and I had my doubts. Not only is it the best BR player it is the best and fastest HD player (HD-DVD included) period.

It is also the best up-converting DVD player beating even high end $1200+ players from Denon.

It is also better than most $500 stand alone upscalers.

And strangely enough for what you get it is also the cheapest.

[analogue SPRINKLES]

Originally Posted by Eug 

?

Lip sync issues as described are almost never related to "a bad batch of discs".

Ya I was thinking the same but I didn't want to bring it up or he would ramble on for 3 pages how it is technically possible and it can happen to BR also yadda yadda.

On that note though my Bond #20 DVD had audio delays when I chose DTS and hooked it up to my Samsung DLP. On D.D. it had no problems.

So it might still be a problem with some players/tv combos or the audio track. I have no idea what options it has but try it on non-DTS and see if it helps.

[Eug]

VideoBusiness: Price drops lift HD DVD player sales

Toshiba’s recent price drop on its HD DVD players and aggressive retailer pricing over the holiday weekend have driven up sales as much as tenfold at some retailers.

Since Toshiba began offering a $100 instant rebate on HD DVD players, sales have grown between fivefold and tenfold, depending on the retailer, said Jodi Sally, VP of marketing for Toshiba America Consumer Products.

“We’re thrilled to see that consumers are, by far, choosing Toshiba’s HD DVD players as their source for high-definition,” Sally said.

On May 20, Toshiba began offering the rebate on select HD DVD player models, effectively slashing the price on the bottom line HD-A2 model to $299.

Amazon.com cut the price even further, to as low as $238 over Memorial Day weekend. The lower price shot up the player to be the top-selling DVD player on the site, a spot previously held by the Oppo up-converting DVD player, which sells for $229.

[goMac]

Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES 

Ya I was thinking the same but I didn't want to bring it up or he would ramble on for 3 pages how it is technically possible and it can happen to BR also yadda yadda.

It would be called a bad encode... I would hope I'd be able to explain what a bad encode was to you in 3 pages.

[Eug]

The AVS buy-day-geeks were at it again yesterday:

Originally Posted by goMac 

It would be called a bad encode... I would hope I'd be able to explain what a bad encode was to you in 3 pages.

How is a bad encode "a bad batch of discs", unless you think every HD DVD copy of The Matrix ever made is "a bad batch of discs"?

[icruise]

There are two possible causes of lip sync problems. Either the discs were mastered improperly (which would mean that every disc would have the issue) or it is a compatibility issue with some players. I think the latter is much more likely, and it can probably be fixed with a software/firmware update. I can't conceive of any way a single batch of discs could be created with this kind of problem.

[goMac]

Originally Posted by Eug 

How is a bad encode "a bad batch of discs", unless you think every HD DVD copy of The Matrix ever made is "a bad batch of discs"?

Same way a bunch of Macbooks that randomly shut down is a bad batch of Macbooks.

[analogue SPRINKLES]

Originally Posted by goMac 

Same way a bunch of Macbooks that randomly shut down is a bad batch of Macbooks.

Oh pleeeeeasae

[Eug]

Sharp readies world's smallest blue laser for BD and HD DVD

Measuring just 3.3-mm in diameter, the GH04020A4G semiconductor will be available in ¥12,000 ($99) sample quantities starting June 13th before ramping up for mass production later in July. The device will suck 10mW from your laptop's battery while offering at least 10,000 hours of operation before giving up the ghost.

[Adam Betts]

Lie lie! That's a giant-sized pencil. They're trying to fool us!

Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES 

Yes it is very very true and I had my doubts. Not only is it the best BR player it is the best and fastest HD player (HD-DVD included) period.
It is also the best up-converting DVD player beating even high end $1200+ players from Denon.
It is also better than most $500 stand alone upscalers.
And strangely enough for what you get it is also the cheapest.

Couldn't agree more. Amazing how one firmware update changed PS3 for the better by far.

[Eug]

Originally Posted by Eug 

Spider-Man will do VERY well. I'm not convinced 300 will do as well, but it wil