[icruise]

aristotle, if you seriously have goMac and Eug on your ignore list, then I think trying to participate in this discussion is going to be pointless for you.

[exca1ibur]

Well, some people take things personal, when it comes to their opinions. No need to trip out because someone doesn't share your opinion. Most people in life aren't going to share your opinions so you just have to respect that. That's just the way it is.

[Dakarʒ]

Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES 

As cool as it is your siggy is breaking the rules.

In case you missed it.

[exca1ibur]

Originally Posted by Dakarʒ 

In case you missed it.

Didn't miss it, or the echo here, either. When I get around to fixing it (When I get home), I'll deal with it. Next topic please...

[Dakarʒ]

You didn't say anything, so I couldn't be sure. No need to be grumpy.

[Kenneth]

In the local BestBuy, the HD DVD version of 300 seem to be sold out. However, the Blu-ray version was still available.

[starman]

Originally Posted by Kenneth 

In the local BestBuy, the HD DVD version of 300 seem to be sold out. However, the Blu-ray version was still available.

Which means what? At my local BB the Blu-Ray version "seemed to be" sold out, but they had them in an endcap.

[jokell82]

Originally Posted by starman 

Which means what? At my local BB the Blu-Ray version "seemed to be" sold out, but they had them in an endcap.

It means diddly squat.

[Eug]

Originally Posted by aristotles 

Everyone is aware of of HD DVD structures on DVD-+R/RW and that it is part of the spec but it is still not a true HD DVD burn

Of course it is. The DVD Forum says it is, so it is.

VideoTS on a CD-R is a DVD.

This is called mini-DVD or cDVD. It does not exist in the DVD spec. These discs will not work in most standalone DVD players.

It is a quick hack, nothing more.

No, HD DVD on DVD media is part of the official HD DVD spec. These discs will work in all HD DVD players.

Eug, I'm putting you on my ignore list. You are doing exactly what you falsely accuse me of doing. I'm done responding to you for now.

That's good news. I finally get the last word.

[analogue SPRINKLES]

Originally Posted by Kenneth 

In the local BestBuy, the HD DVD version of 300 seem to be sold out. However, the Blu-ray version was still available.

Really? **** I ****ed up getting the PS3 then didn't I.

[analogue SPRINKLES]

Originally Posted by jokell82 

3) No Region Codes
4) Less DRM
5) Completed spec (my d2 will *ALWAYS* play HD-DVD movies, current-gen and last-gen BD players may not play future BD movies)
6) Full featured hardware

But yeah, those 2 you mentioned are the only ones.

And you seriously think the average consumer will give a rats ass about those?
I don't remember people not wanting DVD's because of DRM and region codes. Are you also going to tell me people like red boxes more than blue? Even with the points you mention you really think HD will win over BR because of "less DMR and region codes". Are you talking about HD surviving in its current 8 month losing streak or those "features" will actually help them WIN 100% of the market?

All BR players will play all BR movies. Picture in picture might be another story but there have been plenty of HD movies that don't play on certain hardware especially the 360 add on.

Also I remember watching PiP movies on my PS3 and BR movies months ago. IT wasn't done with Java but it looked and acted the same so I could care less.

[analogue SPRINKLES]

BR camcorders. Pretty damn cheap also:

Electronista | Hitachi unveils first Blu-Ray camcorders [u]

[Cadaver]

I have both a Blue-Ray and an HD-DVD player.

The thing that irritates me, and jokell82 mentioned it above, is that its very possible that my $650 Blu-Ray player may not work correctly with future BD movies. With the new BD-Java and additional layer of encryption that new BD movies will use, its very possible that even a firmware update won't be enough.

Plus, my HD-DVD player is way more responsive than my Blu-Ray player.

But insofar as picture quality, I have no preference.

[analogue SPRINKLES]

Originally Posted by Cadaver 

Plus, my HD-DVD player is way more responsive than my Blu-Ray player.

Damn you should have got a PS3. It knocks the socks off any BR or HD player. Fast as hell.

[Cadaver]

Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES 

Damn you should have got a PS3. It knocks the socks off any BR or HD player. Fast as hell.

Bought mine before PS3s were available in volume. They were sold out everywhere at the time, and I wasn't motivated to wait since I wasn't (aren't) planning on gaming on it.

[jokell82]

Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES 

And you seriously think the average consumer will give a rats ass about those?
I don't remember people not wanting DVD's because of DRM and region codes. Are you also going to tell me people like red boxes more than blue? Even with the points you mention you really think HD will win over BR because of "less DMR and region codes". Are you talking about HD surviving in its current 8 month losing streak or those "features" will actually help them WIN 100% of the market?

All BR players will play all BR movies. Picture in picture might be another story but there have been plenty of HD movies that don't play on certain hardware especially the 360 add on.

Also I remember watching PiP movies on my PS3 and BR movies months ago. IT wasn't done with Java but it looked and acted the same so I could care less.

Will all consumers? No. But I care. And others care. As for the color scheme, give me a freaking break. The color scheme is not going to make or break either format. But since you mention it, the red looks a lot better against my wooden media shelf than blue does.

As for HD's losing streak, I present the following:


Do I think HD-DVD will beat BD down and become the 100% standard? No, not really. I expect both formats to stick around, with Universal staying HD only, Sony staying BD only, and every other studio going neutral. Just what I think is going to happen, though.

As for your "All BR players will play all BR movies" - that may not be true. We wont know until BD+ is implemented into hardware and people try to play new movies on their current gen machines. A strong possibility exists that they simply wont work.

Besides, the "ray" part of Blu-Ray isn't even blue - it's violet. If they're lying about the name what else is Sony lying about?

[starman]

Fox won't go neutral so long as it needs the second layer of content protection which HD-DVD doesn't have.