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Blu-ray/HD DVD... Who is winning? (Page 49)
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Originally Posted by PaperNotes 
They're using it as a generic term. Go say what you said on the dvxuser forums and many professionals will tell you what it means. By HD DVD Apple means high definition resolution of any of the codecs supported by Blu-ray and HD-DVD players and also can be recorded on DVD discs.
SD DVD and HD DVD resolutions
Incorrect. These "HD DVD" discs from Apple will play in standalone HD DVD players. They do not play in Blu-ray players.
It seems pretty simple to me.
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Originally Posted by goMac
The Samsungs support all the features on both formats (HD-DVD and Bluray 1.0).
But not Bluray 1.1
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Originally Posted by exca1ibur
But not Bluray 1.1
Yeah, but I don't think any of the current standalones support BR1.1...
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Originally Posted by Eug
Incorrect. These "HD DVD" discs from Apple will play in standalone HD DVD players. They do not play in Blu-ray players.
It seems pretty simple to me.
I have already said that HD-DVD 1.0 spec support is included and if you want your HD to work in another disc player you encode to plain old h.264 and then burn to whatever disc format you want. Quite a few Blu-ray players will play h.264 from a Blu-ray disc or DVD. When the Blu-ray spec is finalized Apple will release an update to support the full spec in DVD Studio Pro and that is also when they will add Blu-ray to Macs. When that patch is released the conversion and DVD standard feature will still read "SD DVD" and "HD DVD". It said that even before the HD-DVD 1.0 patch came out.
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Originally Posted by PaperNotes
I have already said that HD-DVD 1.0 spec support is included and if you want your HD to work in another disc player you encode to plain old h.264 and then burn to whatever disc format you want. Quite a few Blu-ray players will play h.264 from a Blu-ray disc or DVD. When the Blu-ray spec is finalized Apple will release an update to support the full spec in DVD Studio Pro and that is also when they will add Blu-ray to Macs. When that patch is released the conversion and DVD standard feature will still read "SD DVD" and "HD DVD". It said that even before the HD-DVD 1.0 patch came out.
Huh? The Bluray 1.0 spec is finalized.
You can't export directly to H.264 from DVD Studio Pro. How do you think those DVD Menus will work? If you're using Bluray, you simply can't use DVD Studio Pro right now. You have to avoid it and use Compressor, and then send it to another DVD authoring program that does support Bluray.
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Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES
Is this the same Analog "I don't care about extra features" Sprinkles?
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Originally Posted by goMac
Is this the same Analog "I don't care about extra features" Sprinkles?
No, goMac - this is the Analog "I don't care about extra features unless they're on Blu-Ray" Sprinkles. There is a difference. 
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Originally Posted by jokell82
No, goMac - this is the Analog "I don't care about extra features unless they're on Blu-Ray" Sprinkles. There is a difference.
You're both wrong this is the analogue SPRINKLES that still doesn't give a rats ass about that stuff but just point out to the HD crew that BR disks with the "advantages" of PIP and online silliness is coming. So that will be another point lost in the HD advantage side.
You may now argue on tiny specifics and backwards compatibility etc...
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Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES
You're both wrong this is the analogue SPRINKLES that still doesn't give a rats ass about that stuff but just point out to the HD crew that BR disks with the "advantages" of PIP and online silliness is coming. So that will be another point lost in the HD advantage side.
You may now argue on tiny specifics and backwards compatibility etc...
Bluray is finally catching up to HD-DVD in features? But I thought Bluray was futureproof(TM)?
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That must be the only way they can sell them.
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I find it hilarious how vicious both camps can get about essentially the exact same thing. For the most part, most consumers don't watch the features. They just want the movie. Granted, BR can theoretically encode the movies at a higher bitrate, and HD-DVD seems to have more "that's cool" features, but in the end, it's all about the movies the format offers and the price of the players. Those two items are what's making this a war. BR has the movies, HD-DVD has the cheap players.
I'm leaning Blu-ray because of the wider movie selection. Once [if] Universal falls, the war will be over.
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Originally Posted by Eug
I actually saw a pretty good deal on the 360 today. I forget where it was, but it was an Elite, HD-DVD player, remote control, and 6 HD-DVD's for $600.
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I imagine you're referring to the Amazon deal, although 5 of those movies are the usual ones you send away for. And actually, it's not that great of a deal compared to the PS3.
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Onkyo HD DVD player details - DV-HD805
HDMI 1.3a with Deep Colour
24p
HD Audio
1080p upscaling, with Silicon Optix HQV Reon VX
Fall 2007, $899
It's nice to see a higher end brand join the ranks, but I'm not really interested in paying $899 for a player.
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