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Blu-ray/HD DVD... Who is winning? (Page 55)
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Now let's talk HD-DVD sales. errr
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Originally Posted by PaperNotes 
I have stated twice on this page alone that with the 4.1 update there is output to HD-DVD discs. My position was that Apple also uses HD DVD as a loose term for any HD output to optical discs (it can record h.264 to Blu-ray too if you have drivers for the recording device). Your position was that Apple doesn't use it as a loose term and that HD DVD only means the format.
Ok. Do you PERSONALLY use Final Cut Studio ever? You can get video from Final Cut Studio to a Bluray disc if you use Compressor.app. But if you go the DVD Studio Pro route you cannot burn to a Bluray disc.
The DVD Studio 4 release notes clearly state that the HD DVD burning burns to the HD DVD 1.0 specification. Which HD DVD 1.0 specification do you think they're talking about?
Originally Posted by PaperNotes
Care to show anyone in the world a HD-DVD player that makes use of a Quicktime .mov extension? Of course you can't.
Are you just trying to be stupid? HD-DVD uses .mov files for it's H.264 content.
Originally Posted by PaperNotes
Talking to you is like talking to a stupid woman who can't shut her mouth when she knows she's wrong and can't understand a thing that a man tells her. Are you a woman by any chance?
Whoa. No I'm not a woman. But uhhhhh... I wouldn't be talking like that around the ladies.
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Originally Posted by goMac
Ok. Do you PERSONALLY use Final Cut Studio ever? You can get video from Final Cut Studio to a Bluray disc if you use Compressor.app. But if you go the DVD Studio Pro route you cannot burn to a Bluray disc.
Jeez. That's now what I said. I was correcting your position that the app doesn't use HD DVD as a loose term.
Urgh, one month ago I told you that the Finder would be used to burn h.264 to Blu-ray. Fecking hell you are too vain and purposely forgetful to talk to.
This is too much stupidity for me to deal with.
You all can go back to talking about how badly Blu-ray sales are beating HD-DVD without me. 2:1 to 3:1 in the last week now.
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Originally Posted by goMac
Whoa... uhhhhh... I wouldn't be talking like that around the ladies.
You forget, we're on the internet.
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Originally Posted by PaperNotes
Urgh, one month ago I told you that the Finder would be used to burn h.264 to Blu-ray. Fecking hell you are too vain and purposely forgetful to talk to.
These discs won't work on standalone Blu-ray players... which is what we already said to you back then.
I'm surprised you're repeating this junk. Oh wait. I'm not.
Eug: 2) DVD Studio Pro cannot burn Blu-ray discs.
PaperNotes: It can output h.264 which can be burned on a Blu-ray recordable and played back in a Blu-ray player.
Perhaps if it were a PS3. However, if true that would be because the PS3 has explicit H.264 support. DVD Studio Pro cannot burn hi-def discs playable in standalone Blu-ray players.
Eug: 5) Standalone HD DVD players (which don't understand QuickTime at all), can play the official spec HD DVD discs burned by DVD Studio Pro.
PaperNotes: And any Blu-ray player will play h.264 output burned on to a Blu-ray or DVD too.
Wrong again.
(Last edited by Eug; Aug 24, 2007 at 03:54 PM.
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Originally Posted by PaperNotes
Talking to you is like talking to a stupid woman who can't shut her mouth when she knows she's wrong and can't understand a thing that a man tells her. Are you a woman by any chance?
PaperNotes, if I can be so bold as to speak on behalf of other Blu-ray supporters, we'll no longer be needing your support. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Eug
Perhaps if it were a PS3. However, if true that would be because the PS3 has explicit H.264 support. DVD Studio Pro cannot burn hi-def discs playable in standalone Blu-ray players.
But even then the PS3 will only play the H.264 file, it won't play any content actually created in DVD Studio Pro (i.e. the menus).
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That's all nice and all but Look at the Sales figures released today.
71:29 in favor of blu-ray and the top 10 is dominated by Blu-ray.
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Originally Posted by aristotles
That's all nice and all but Look at the Sales figures released today.
71:29 in favor of blu-ray and the top 10 is dominated by Blu-ray.
Yes, I saw. I'm waiting to see what happens when Paramount's exclusives start to arrive, considering they have a few releases coming soon.
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As expected, Warner is staying neutral (at least for the time being).
WHV spokesman Jim Noonan said that Nickerson’s leaving doesn’t suggest an upcoming shift in the studio’s high-def operations. With Paramount Home Entertainment and DreamWorks Animation now HD DVD-exclusive, WHV is the only major studio to produce high-def titles in both HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc.
Over the next month, Nickerson will help Marticorena transition to her new gig. She joined WHV as director of marketing, kids entertainment, in 2001.
“I look forward to immediately collaborating with my domestic and international colleagues in this new role and doing all that is necessary to ensure success of the high-definition format in their markets as quickly as possible,” she said.
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Originally Posted by goMac
Yes, I saw. I'm waiting to see what happens when Paramount's exclusives start to arrive, considering they have a few releases coming soon.
What of the newly announced Fox and Disney blu-ray exclusive titles?
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Originally Posted by aristotles
Do you guys remember this story from 120 days ago about cheap HD Media players being ordered by Wal-mart? Do you remember how some dismissed mention of a Blue DVD player as being either Blu-ray or HD DVD? I think some of you forgot that they mentioned it would read 50GB discs.
Just for posterity's sake... aristotles' source "article" is just too funny.
N4G.com: Chinese Development recieved order for Blu-ray Players
Chinese Development recieved order for Blu-ray Players
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Published: 121 days 15 hours ago | News | Tech
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Taiwan has a glorious technological industry for the country. The latest invention of the Blue DVD players, high-quality images, high-capacity. Traditional DVD machines can only read 4.7 GB discs, but Blue DVD can read as much as 50G, that is over 12 traditional movie discs!
There has been an order from the United States for Blue-DVD players, of an estimated value of up to 10.1 billion.
  
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Why will Blu-ray extend their lead even more soon?
Because the premium PS3 titles are on their way that gamers have been waiting for. Some gorgeousity trailers.....
Metal Gear Solid.......really solid!
PS3 News: GC: Kojima frees new MGS4 trailer - ComputerAndVideoGames.com
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue!!!!! Jeesus this is gonna be awesome!!!!
News: GC: New GT 5 Prologue trailer - ComputerAndVideoGames.com
Grand Theft Auto and Unreal Tournament 3 will also be larger games due to the Blu-ray format according to the makers. More maps, characters and sharper textures.
That is four of the best selling hardcore gaming franchises all coming soon that will boost PS3 sales and Blu-ray movies. By May 2008 we'll see Blu-ray beating HD-DVD movie sales by a factor of 5 to 1. Quote me on that because it is going to happen. I'll bring up this page of this discussion again in May so the doubters (all three of them hahaha) can look like fools.
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Yes, with a grand total of 2 exclusive AAA titles I bet the PS3 will really start to fly off the shelves. 
Out of the dual platform games that have been on both the 360 and the PS3, the 360 version has looked better every time. And the PS3 version of Grand Theft Auto has been running late. Not to mention ID software has been trashing the PS3's low amount of memory as causing issues with running larger levels.
But that's a separate topic.
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Originally Posted by goMac
Yes, with a grand total of 2 exclusive AAA titles I bet the PS3 will really start to fly off the shelves.
Out of the dual platform games that have been on both the 360 and the PS3, the 360 version has looked better every time. And the PS3 version of Grand Theft Auto has been running late. Not to mention ID software has been trashing the PS3's low amount of memory as causing issues with running larger levels.
LOL
Give us more, goMac!!! Please we need another 55 pages of fortune telling from you.
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Originally Posted by Super Mario
That is four of the best selling hardcore gaming franchises all coming soon that will boost PS3 sales and Blu-ray movies. By May 2008 we'll see Blu-ray beating HD-DVD movie sales by a factor of 5 to 1. Quote me on that because it is going to happen. I'll bring up this page of this discussion again in May so the doubters (all three of them hahaha) can look like fools.
Originally Posted by Super Mario
Give us more, goMac!!! Please we need another 55 pages of fortune telling from you.
Quoted for irony.
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Originally Posted by goMac
Whoa. No I'm not a woman. But uhhhhh... I wouldn't be talking like that around the ladies.
No worries. A guy who says something like this PaperNotes guy has just proven to me that there are always people who are so incredibly dense that it's sadistically fun watching them argue. Stupidity can be fun. That kind of ignorance and stupidity is just arousingly irritating, especially when reading with your first coffee. Saves me from vomiting onto PaperNotes beautiful insults. Just like that.
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