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View Poll Results: Which do you have? (Choose only ONE. Includes stand-alones and game consoles.)
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HD DVD 30 votes (17.34%)
Blu-ray 76 votes (43.93%)
Both 13 votes (7.51%)
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Blu-ray/HD DVD... Who is winning? (Page 59)
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Aug 31, 2007, 01:16 AM
 
Originally Posted by Super Mario View Post
Somehow goMac forgot how to read or is being the usual manipulative liar.
That's enough name calling.

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Aug 31, 2007, 01:42 AM
 
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That's enough name calling.
How about enough lying? After all, nothing against name calling in the 10 commandments.
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Aug 31, 2007, 02:02 AM
 
Calling people liars or crazy doesn't further the discussion and doesn't make you look like a reasonable person, either. Knock it off.

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Aug 31, 2007, 02:55 AM
 
Originally Posted by icruise View Post
Calling people liars or crazy doesn't further the discussion
Could if it is true
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Aug 31, 2007, 06:00 AM
 
Oh and according to one of those articles, they expected the 60gb units to be gone in July. Looks like they missed a sales target yet again...

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Aug 31, 2007, 06:32 AM
 
Originally Posted by jokell82 View Post
Pick one:
Let me know if you need more, because it wasn't like it was a big deal or anything.
Every one fo those links is speculative that the 60GB model isn't being made anymore. Even if it were, so what? They're selling fast since the price drop. Where's your missed the sales target evidence? Where's the source for that except that you're making stuff up?
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Aug 31, 2007, 06:33 AM
 
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Aug 31, 2007, 06:37 AM
 
Just look at "some" of the names of systems manufacturers building Blu-ray or HD-DVD into their computers

Blu-ray
Dell
Acer
Gateway
Sony
Alienware
Lenovo
XtremeNotebooks
Eurocom
HD-DVD
Toshiba
HP
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Aug 31, 2007, 06:42 AM
 
Acer is format neutral, and already makes HD DVD PCs.
Gateway was just bought by Acer. (I think they're crazy for paying a 57% premium on the stock, but whatever.)
Alienware is owned by Dell.
     
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Aug 31, 2007, 06:47 AM
 
Originally Posted by Eug View Post
Acer is format neutral, and already makes HD DVD PCs.
They announced they are going Blu-ray exclusive. I have posted links for the last day now and you chose to let that fly overhead for your own funny reasons.

Alienware is owned by Dell.
So? Still another brand that ships. We're not playing who owns who otherwise Toshiba and Sony would be taken off the list. Consumers don't see who owns who. They look at specs and how many computers are on the shelves. The majority of system builders are backing Blu-ray.
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Aug 31, 2007, 06:49 AM
 
Originally Posted by Super Mario View Post
Every one fo those links is speculative that the 60GB model isn't being made anymore. Even if it were, so what? They're selling fast since the price drop. Where's your missed the sales target evidence? Where's the source for that except that you're making stuff up?
Oh. My. God.

Did you even read the first link? My guess is that not even the SCEE President is a good enough source for you:

"SCEE president David Reeves has told GamesIndustry.biz that he expects the 60GB model of the PS3 to be sold out by the end of this month throughout North America, and Sony won't be making more of them."

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Aug 31, 2007, 06:56 AM
 
Originally Posted by jokell82 View Post
"SCEE president David Reeves has told GamesIndustry.biz that he expects the 60GB model of the PS3 to be sold out by the end of this month throughout North America, and Sony won't be making more of them."
Why hasn't this been reported more widely?

ps3 sold out - Google News

Only one link on that page.

And what does it have to do with your sourceless and baseless...

Looks like they missed a sales target yet again...
Show a source for missed sales target. Show how any of what your saying is any disadvantage to Blu-ray.

Back on topic, the PS3 continues widens Blu-ray ownership regardless of what you make up.
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Aug 31, 2007, 06:59 AM
 
Originally Posted by Super Mario View Post
Why hasn't this been reported more widely?

ps3 sold out - Google News

Only one link on that page.

And what does it have to do with your sourceless and baseless...



Show a source for missed sales target. Show how any of what your saying is any disadvantage to Blu-ray.

Back on topic, the PS3 continues widens Blu-ray ownership regardless of what you make up.
Uh, it *WAS* widely reported. What rock were you living under? And lets try a more reasonable google search:
ps3 discontinued - Google News

Quite a bit more hits, don't you think? And that only comes up with the stories from the past month - this stuff was announced at E3.

The source for the sales target is the freaking SCEE President that you quoted in your post. Maybe you should try some basic reading comprehension.

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Aug 31, 2007, 07:04 AM
 
Originally Posted by jokell82 View Post
The source for the sales target is the freaking SCEE President that you quoted in your post. Maybe you should try some basic reading comprehension.
I asked for a quote, why is it wrong for Sony to sell out of 60GB models and lower the 80GB model's price, and WTMF does it put Blu-ray at a disadvantage when more PS3s have been moved than any HD-DVD player?

Also from that first article you adamantly made me read

The move is a brilliant one for Sony
Try reading your own links.

And just to quote you, you're the one saying in another thread right now how you're not going to support NBC Universal's $1.99 per TV show price and will go back to downloading torrents.

What a great supporter of HD-DVD you are
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Aug 31, 2007, 07:09 AM
 
Originally Posted by Super Mario View Post
I asked for a quote and WTMF does it put Blu-ray at a disadvantage when more PS3s have been moved than any HD-DVD player?
It puts Blu-Ray at a disadvantage because it makes the PS3 less of a trojan horse the Blu-Ray Group had hoped it would be.

Sony had promised the movie studios 6 million ps3 sales by March of this year and they *still* aren't there yet. (Want a source? Google it and you'll get lots of hits) There's only so much Sony can disappoint the studios with before they start moving to the more viable option.

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And just to quote you, you're the one saying in another thread right now how you're not going to support NBC Universal's $1.99 per TV show price and will go back to downloading torrents.

What a great supporter of HD-DVD you are
That's not true at all. I'm starting to think you actually have a reading comprehension problem.

NBC Universal is not renewing their iTunes contract because they want to *increase* prices. Apple is fighting on the side of the consumer to keep prices down and NBC is not willing to compromise. Since I *can't* buy through iTunes as of December I will be torrenting their shows. It has nothing to do with my support of HD DVD, it has to do with NBC's support of me and other consumers.

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Aug 31, 2007, 07:18 AM
 
Originally Posted by jokell82 View Post
It puts Blu-Ray at a disadvantage because it makes the PS3 less of a trojan horse the Blu-Ray Group had hoped it would be.
Your own links represented optimistic opinion and the first link your asked me to read twice, quote, said "The move is a brilliant one for Sony"

Sony had promised the movie studios 6 million ps3 sales by March of this year and they *still* aren't there yet.
Who seriously gives a **** if they aren't there yet (their sales targets was never an issue for me, although I was surprised to see they had a 61% increase last month). They sell more PS3s than there are HD-DVD players in consumer hands. That's on top of all the stand alone Blu-ray players and computer systems with Blu-ray.

I'm starting to think you actually have a reading comprehension problem.
Coming from the person who linked to the aforementioned article that congratulated Sony for selling out of 60GB models and streamlining their PS3 line, it seems you have the reading problems.

NBC Universal is not renewing their iTunes contract because they want to *increase* prices.
They want to increase prices from a measely $1.99 and you go mad and say you're going to "go back to torrents". Why don't you go buy HD-DVDs instead if you're such a great supporter?

Jeez, HD-DVD really does cause mental illness.
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