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View Poll Results: Which do you have? (Choose only ONE. Includes stand-alones and game consoles.)
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HD DVD 33 votes (17.84%)
Blu-ray 81 votes (43.78%)
Both 14 votes (7.57%)
Neither 63 votes (34.05%)
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Oct 25, 2007, 11:56 PM
 
Originally Posted by goMac View Post

Personally, I think Microsoft is the far lesser evil.
Name one example in the past where Microsoft is the lesser of any two evils. I can't think of any.

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Oct 26, 2007, 07:25 AM
 
Originally Posted by voodoo View Post
I was referring to the HDi interactive menu system pushed by MS on HD-DVD.

HDi Interactive Format - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Ironically, Disney helped develop HDi, but now is exclusively Blu-ray (partially because of "promotional considerations").

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Blu-ray 2-for-1 sale beats Transformers HD DVD this week - 51 : 49

Home Media Magazine is reporting a narrow Blu-ray disc sales victory for the week ending Oct 21, disputing Paramount's previously released sales numbers for HD DVD edition of 'The Transformers.'

According to the just-published report, Blu-ray won the week by a thin margin that amounts to 51% of the high-def discs sold, versus 49% for HD DVD.

Paramount issued a press release projecting record-breaking first-week sales of 190,000 units. Home Media Magazine disputes Paramount's numbers, estimating the actual number of units that sold through to consumers as closer to 115,000.

Some have theorized that Blu-ray's strong showing for the week in the face of such strong sales for 'The Transformers' is attributable in part to a series of "buy one get one free" offers extended by Disney at such leading retailers as Best Buy, Circuit City and Amazon.
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Oct 26, 2007, 09:58 AM
 
Even with it's biggest title ever, HD DVD can't top Blu-ray in disc sales for even a week.
     
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Is there an echo (with a 30 minute delay) in here?
     
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Is there an echo (with a 30 minute delay) in here?
Nope, just a browser window that hadn't updated....
     
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Oct 26, 2007, 10:31 AM
 
That difference in disc sales is a bit fishy to me. But overall a good week!

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Even with it's biggest title ever, HD DVD can't top Blu-ray in disc sales for even a week.
I know that's rough. Anyway, I hope spiderman 3 doesn't sell better as that movie seriously sucked.
     
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Oct 26, 2007, 12:26 PM
 
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I know that's rough. Anyway, I hope spiderman 3 doesn't sell better as that movie seriously sucked.
I bet the Trilogy will be a big seller. And despite sucking, 3 made a hell of a lot of money in the theaters, so it may be a big seller too.

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Oct 26, 2007, 12:28 PM
 
Originally Posted by voodoo View Post
Name one example in the past where Microsoft is the lesser of any two evils. I can't think of any.

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Huh? I don't think I need to cite historical precedent. As far as the format war goes, Microsoft has an interest in making HD-DVD work well on the PC, while Sony has no such interest. (For example... managed copy on Bluray was not part of the 1.0 spec..)
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Oct 26, 2007, 12:49 PM
 
Originally Posted by goMac View Post
Huh? I don't think I need to cite historical precedent.
Esp when not relevent. I think you were referring to this specific instance. But then again I could be wrong.
As far as the format war goes, Microsoft has an interest in making HD-DVD work well on the PC, while Sony has no such interest. (For example... managed copy on Bluray was not part of the 1.0 spec..)
MS has an interest in making all their software work on anything. If they could sell Windows for toaster ovens they would.
     
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Esp when not relevent. I think you were referring to this specific instance. But then again I could be wrong.

MS has an interest in making all their software work on anything. If they could sell Windows for toaster ovens they would.
Indeed, and when it comes to the HD optical formats, that's good.

Sony has a history of making seriously terrible PC software.

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I bet the Trilogy will be a big seller. And despite sucking, 3 made a hell of a lot of money in the theaters, so it may be a big seller too.
Yes, I think 3 sucked too, but you're right. It did make a lot of money, and furthermore, it got similar critical reviews to Transformers.

In truth, I think the story for Transformers also sucked, but I found it didn't matter, partially because the movie didn't actually take itself seriously IMO, and it's superfun ride.

OTOH, SM3 took itself far too seriously and while it may have impressed certain critics in its goal, I think it just failed miserably to execute as a popcorn flick. That said, my opinion doesn't really matter that much. Overall it got OK reviews and it made a crapload of cash.
     
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It would seem Circuit City is paying attention. CC now has it for $197.99.
     
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Oct 26, 2007, 04:29 PM
 
Originally Posted by goMac View Post
Huh? I don't think I need to cite historical precedent.
That would be the only thing you could do to help your argument that Microsoft *can* be the lesser of two evils.

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As far as the format war goes, Microsoft has an interest in making HD-DVD work well on the PC, while Sony has no such interest. (For example... managed copy on Bluray was not part of the 1.0 spec..)
Microsoft has in interest in making HD-DVD work well on Windows with their particular DRM so Microsoft can be in control of moving media.

Don't confuse the format with the content.

I couldn't care less which format wins. They're both passable.

I care more which entity will control the DRM scheme, because that's the reason there is a format war. Not because of the format. Because of the DRM.

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Oct 26, 2007, 04:50 PM
 
And Sony has an even higher interest in BD because they would then be the content owners and the hardware suppliers. They would own every link in the chain. That's a much scarier thought than Microsoft winning IMO.

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And Sony has an even higher interest in BD because they would then be the content owners and the hardware suppliers. They would own every link in the chain. That's a much scarier thought than Microsoft winning IMO.
Not to me. Microsoft is an entity to use and discard when their resources no longer benefit.

They are not to be given any chance of monopoly status. It is in their nature to abuse it.

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Not to me. Microsoft is an entity to use and discard when their resources no longer benefit.

They are not to be given any chance of monopoly status. It is in their nature to abuse it.

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That's every company ever, though. Microsoft has less of a stake in entertainment to even be considered a threat for a monopoly.

Sony, on the other hand...

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Not to me. Microsoft is an entity to use and discard when their resources no longer benefit.

They are not to be given any chance of monopoly status. It is in their nature to abuse it.

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I think both companies are pretty evil. However, Microsofts goal is to force me to buy a computer. Sony's goal is to force me to buy a PS3.

Guess who's scheme I like better?
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