[PaperNotes]

Originally Posted by jokell82 

Well I wonder what Fox and Disney will do now that BD+ is cracked:
SlySoft claims to have cracked BD+, naysayers fall quiet - Engadget HD

No more than anyone did when DVD got hacked and shared. Pirates can't kill a format any more than a forum fanboy. Most of the buying public (like 99.9%) don't even know you exist.

[Eug]

Originally Posted by PaperNotes 

Even if that last sentence of yours is wrong (Unprotected non-commercial content in the right format can be played back from Blu-ray and HD-DVD discs) I have been telling you the rest of that for months back when I was breaking my awesome NDA.

Stop trying to tell us that sticking a few video files or whatever on a Blu-ray disc is "Blu-ray". Tiger never had any support for Blu-ray in DVD Player.app, but you could play some video files off Blu-ray discs.

P.S. Since when do you have to have an NDA to DVD Studio Pro?

Originally Posted by PaperNotes 

No more than anyone did when DVD got hacked and shared. Pirates can't kill a format any more than a forum fanboy. Most of the buying public (like 99.9%) don't even know you exist.

Weirdest post in this thread this week.

[exca1ibur]

Originally Posted by jokell82 

Well I wonder what Fox and Disney will do now that BD+ is cracked:
SlySoft claims to have cracked BD+, naysayers fall quiet - Engadget HD

Who knows. You'd be a fool to think it wouldn't. What DRM hasn't been cracked? Which is why we are all bitching on here now. My point is if you have a problem with one, you have a problem with them all. Case proven.

[analogue SPRINKLES]

"One thing that may be changing is our strategy," he said. "When both formats launched and hardware prices were high, we made a decision to support both formats and let the consumer decide. But now that hardware pricing is affordable for both Blu-ray and HD DVD, it appears consumers no longer want to decide — so the notion of staying in two formats for the duration is something we are re-evaluating now that we are in the fourth quarter."

Warner Mulls Change in High-Def Strategy | High-Def Digest


Circuit City lists LG's BH200 combo HD DVD / Blu-ray combo at $799 - Engadget HD

[Eug]

^^^ Interestingly, the above had already been pretty much said a while back. The statement was they're going to look hard at player sales in Q4 2007, and then make their decision for 2008.

Originally Posted by Warner Home Video prez Ron Sanders

It’s really hard to handicap. I can’t tell, which side, if any, will win. Right now it’s like a Mexican standoff. If the consumer continues to support both formats, the industry will as well. It will be really pivotal what Toshiba does this fourth quarter in hardware. If they sell through everything they ship, and it’s a big number at the price points that are coming out, then I think [HD DVD] will be around for a long time. If they don’t, then it could go Blu-ray’s way. But Toshiba is getting very, very aggressive on pricing, which is putting pressure on Blu-ray player manufacturers to bring prices down. As a content company we just want more hardware in the homes. So what ever drives more hardware is good to see. Right now it looks like there is price pressure on both sides because there are two formats — more pressure than there would be if there was only one format. So, for our interests, more razors means we’ll sell more razor blades down the road.

There are rumours that Warner was bumping up the sched for a Oct/Nov announcement, but I think that's unlikely.

[Eug]

First Profile 1.1 Blu-ray player announced

The DMP-BD30 will ship Nov. 5 and should be in stores nationwide within a week, according to Eisuke Tsuyuzaki, VP of corporate development for Panasonic and GM of its Blu-ray Disc Group. Tsuyuzaki expects stores to have the new player in time for the holiday season “by the bucketload.”

Well, it's good for stores to have them by the bucketload, but at $500, methinks they may not sell that many of them...

[goMac]

Originally Posted by Eug 

First Profile 1.1 Blu-ray player announced

A $500 Bluray 1.1 player vs. a far cheaper HD-DVD player with the same capabilities... hmmm...

[Shaddim]

I dunno, this BD player looks decent for $419.

Newegg.com - SAMSUNG BD-P1400 Blu-ray disc player

[voodoo]

The format that gets Apple support wins. In media, Apple is infallable.

V

[Eug]

Originally Posted by voodoo 

The format that gets Apple support wins. In media, Apple is infallable.

V

DVD-RAM all the way!!!

Originally Posted by Shaddim 

I dunno, this BD player looks decent for $419.

Newegg.com - SAMSUNG BD-P1400 Blu-ray disc player

That's a Profile 1.0 player.

[voodoo]

Originally Posted by Eug 

DVD-RAM all the way!!!

That is wrong on so many levels.

V

[- - e r i k - -]

I think a touché is in order.

[exca1ibur]

Damn, I gotta give him credit for that one. That was a good one.

[Eug]

BTW, The Toshiba HD-A2 HD DVD player is now $179.99 at Best Buy USA.
It's sold out online, but some stores still have some stock.

[analogue SPRINKLES]

Originally Posted by goMac 

A $500 Bluray 1.1 player vs. a far cheaper HD-DVD player with the same capabilities... hmmm...

Just so I understand with Bluray spec 1.1 it means movies can have PiP using 2 different video streams.

Currently BR disks have done PiP for ages but it was done with the PiP placed in 2 versions of the same film but since BR had double the capasity of HD it made no difference in the end.

So now with 1.1 I can have the same PiP my BR movies have had for over a year the only difference being if I look it up on the internet I can find out it was done with Java instead.

Goodie, that greatly enhances my movie watching experience knowing that.

[Eug]

Not very impressive overall.

[analogue SPRINKLES]

Wow, BR still leading even with transformers. But don't people know they can get a stand alone player for $200 plus a million free HD-DVD's!???