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Nov 27, 2006, 02:28 PM
 
I was asked to do some research on a project by someone higher up on the chain of command than my direct supervisor. He asked me on Wednesday (day before Thanksgiving) to look over it "in the next few days". I read that as "the next few work days" so i put it on monday's (today's) to-do list and forgot about it. i got a call this morning at 9:30, and he's ready to discuss my research findings. all i could say was "i didn't get to look at it over the holiday weekend, things were a little hectic, i'll look into it today and get you something by 5"


The big question is... Is there a "rule" about weekend 'homework'?? Do any of your superiors ask this kind of thing of you? I mean, I'm not going to lose my job over not doing it, but it seems weird to me to even be asked, ESPECIALLY on a holiday weekend.
     
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Nov 27, 2006, 02:32 PM
 
are you salaried or hourly? Was Friday a paid day off? Bosses would not expect to get away with that with an hourly employee, days off are days off and overtime or weekend work must be approved in advance with 3 signatures and an Act of God.

Salaried bosses may expect you to "put in the extra mile" or some BS. It's also entirely possible they forgot it was a holiday.

I think you handled it well.
     
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Nov 27, 2006, 02:34 PM
 
Just clarify it next time and keep your willingness reasonable, if you did it this weekend they will expect it every holiday wiikend (sorry too much Wii thread)...
And no, this shouldn't be expected hourly or salary on a holiday weekend.
     
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Nov 27, 2006, 02:36 PM
 
Originally Posted by andi*pandi View Post
are you salaried or hourly? Was Friday a paid day off? B
Like he ask that is what we gotta find out from you before anyone can answer it.

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Nov 27, 2006, 02:37 PM
 
Originally Posted by zerostar View Post
And no, this shouldn't be expected hourly or salary on a holiday weekend.
I think that also depends on your position and rank.
Managers are often expected to get the work done, no matter what.

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Nov 27, 2006, 02:37 PM
 
Originally Posted by andi*pandi View Post
are you salaried or hourly? Was Friday a paid day off?
Salary. Paid Day Off.
     
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Nov 27, 2006, 02:38 PM
 
Originally Posted by what_the_heck View Post
I think that also depends on your position and rank.
Managers are often expected to get the work done, no matter what.

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Definately not a manager.
     
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Nov 27, 2006, 02:42 PM
 
Originally Posted by MrsLarry View Post
Salary. Paid Day Off.
Well on the surface it isn't right. Why would they ask you to work on a paid holiday AND over the weekend. It is normal to think they meant work days not spending your a) national holiday working b) your weekend.

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Nov 27, 2006, 02:42 PM
 
Originally Posted by MrsLarry View Post
Definately not a manager.
Are you exempt or non-exempt ?

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Nov 27, 2006, 02:50 PM
 
Originally Posted by what_the_heck View Post
Are you exempt or non-exempt ?

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She already stated that she is salary.
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Nov 27, 2006, 02:55 PM
 
Originally Posted by what_the_heck View Post
I think that also depends on your position and rank.
Managers are often expected to get the work done, no matter what.
While true, but if you are a good manager you should have your paid weekend/vacartion time off no matter what.

I manage a small group of people, I have deadlines and schedules to meet. My boss knows what I can and can't do, properly communicating is part of things not pooping up. Because he has an emergency that does not translate into my emergency, if my staff is willing to work late the Wednesday we will get it done, I would certainly not ask a good performer to come in on their holiday weekend.

Would I ask a poor performer? Sure, but I don't have any por performers here as weeding those out is my main job.

Anyway I KNOW some companies don't or can't work this way but if you are constantly having "emergencies" that is a real problem with management somewhere up the chain.... probably trolling forums somewhere :-)

p.s. I wasn't calling the OP a poor performer, not at all, but for me thats who I would ask.
     
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Nov 27, 2006, 02:57 PM
 
Originally Posted by zerostar View Post
p.s. I wasn't calling the OP a poor performer, not at all, but for me thats who I would ask.
No offense taken. I'm the only one he could ask. I'm the only one in my department.
     
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Nov 27, 2006, 02:58 PM
 
Originally Posted by mac128k-1984 View Post
She already stated that she is salary.
Duh, there is such thing as exempt and non-exempt salaried positions.

Exempt vs. Non-Exempt Workers - Job Salary Resources from Monster.com

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Nov 27, 2006, 02:58 PM
 
Most bosses think of their employees the same way you think of the person at Starbucks who makes your coffee. Sad but true.

My boss likes to walk up and down the hallways singing... "But what have you done for me lately..."

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Nov 27, 2006, 02:59 PM
 
Hot and making me coffee? Sorry my starbucks has a couple hotties!

Sorry to hear that, a lot of places suck like that.
     
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Nov 27, 2006, 03:01 PM
 
Originally Posted by ort888 View Post
Most bosses think of their employees the same way you think of the person at Starbucks who makes your coffee. Sad but true.

My boss likes to walk up and down the hallways singing... "But what have you done for me lately..."


I'd shoot a poison dart into his stupid neck. If it were a woman I'd make her pay for dinner and drinks.
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Nov 27, 2006, 03:06 PM
 
Originally Posted by what_the_heck View Post
Duh, there is such thing as exempt and non-exempt salaried positions.

Exempt vs. Non-Exempt Workers - Job Salary Resources from Monster.com

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Duh did you even read the article.

Different Compensation Structures

Exempt positions are excluded from minimum wage, overtime regulations, and other rights and protections afforded non-exempt workers. Employers must pay a salary rather than an hourly wage for a position for it to be exempt. Typically, only executive, supervisory, professional or outside sales positions are exempt positions.

Non-exempt employees, as the term implies, are not exempt from FLSA requirements. Employees who fall within this category must be paid at least the federal minimum wage for each hour worked and given overtime pay of not less than one and a half times their hourly rate for any hours worked beyond 40 each week.

Tax Liability Differences

Aside from the various tax brackets into which we all fall, based on our level of income, there is no difference in how exempt and non-exempt employees are taxed. For both categories of workers, all pay is “earned income” and therefore taxable to the wage earner based upon tax bracket. Income is income; it doesn't matter if it's earned by the hour or as an annual salary.

Overtime Implications

Exempt employees are generally expected to devote the number of hours necessary to complete their respective tasks, regardless of whether that requires 35 hours per week or 55 hours per week. Their compensation doesn't change based on actual hours expended. Exempt employees aren't paid extra for putting in more than 40 hours per week; they're paid for getting the job done. On the other hand, non-exempt employees must be paid overtime if they work more than 40 hours per workweek, so it often behooves employers to keep non-exempt employees' hours down.
Where is stated that a salaried position is non-exampt,i.e., get overtime or paid hourly
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Nov 27, 2006, 03:12 PM
 
Originally Posted by mac128k-1984 View Post
Duh did you even read the article.

Where is stated that a salaried position is non-exampt,i.e., get overtime or paid hourly
Duh, did you even UNDERSTAND the article ?

There are TWO types of salaried positions, exempt and non-exempt.
Non-exempt get PAID OVERTIME, exempt don't.

So, what again is your problem with me asking her if she is exempt or non-exempt salaried ?

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Nov 27, 2006, 03:37 PM
 
Originally Posted by what_the_heck View Post
There are TWO types of salaried positions, exempt and non-exempt.
Non-exempt get PAID OVERTIME, exempt don't
I didn't know what it meant until I read the article... nope, no paid overtime. I WISH!
     
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Nov 27, 2006, 03:42 PM
 
Originally Posted by MrsLarry View Post
I didn't know what it meant until I read the article... nope, no paid overtime. I WISH!
So then you are exempt, which is the salary category for professionals.
At that level, you are usually expected to put in overtime to some degree.
Since there are no fixed rules, it's all about communicating expectations well.

So, maybe you wanna give your boss some wisdom (coming from my CFO in Germany)

"You have to manage it, or get out of the kitchen !"

Whatever he means by that.

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Nov 27, 2006, 03:50 PM
 
I work weekends all the time, but I own my own company, so it doesn't feel like work. However I would never expect anybody who works for me to work over a weekend, or a holiday, without it being absolutely necessary. In that case I would communicate it clearly that this is an exception and what the reasons for my request are.
     
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Nov 27, 2006, 04:02 PM
 
Yep. I'm salaried but get paid overtime.

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Nov 27, 2006, 04:06 PM
 
Originally Posted by what_the_heck View Post
So, what again is your problem with me asking her if she is exempt or non-exempt salaried ?

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Who says I have a problem you seem to have some anger issues though (maybe switching to decaf is in order)

And from where I've worked there was never a difference between exempt and non-exempt regarding salaried. exempt was salaried and non was hourly.

Now for one more piece of advice.
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Nov 27, 2006, 04:10 PM
 
It depends upon your corporate culture. At places like KPMG, you are literally expected to never stop working. Leaving before 8pm or taking a Saturday off and you're viewed as being a slacker-- seriously. The funny thing is that publicly, the company announces extra days off next to holidays in a grandiose fashion but then piles so much work on you that you can't possibly get it done unless you work during the entire "break". Then again, those kinds of offices generally attract the type "A" personalities that thrive in that environment.
     
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Nov 27, 2006, 04:12 PM
 
Originally Posted by mac128k-1984 View Post
Who says I have a problem you seem to have some anger issues though (maybe switching to decaf is in order)
Hm, let me see. I said:

Originally Posted by what_the_heck View Post
Are you exempt or non-exempt ?
You said.

Originally Posted by mac128k-1984 View Post
She already stated that she is salary.
So WHAT were you implying ? Because simply stating that she is salaried did NOT answer my question.

I guess I'll file your comment in the backpeddling section.

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And from where I've worked there was never a difference between exempt and non-exempt regarding salaried. exempt was salaried and non was hourly.
Exempt from WHAT ? Paid overtime ?

Maybe your understanding of the term is not correct.
Exempt / non-exempt refers to The Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) requirements.

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Now for one more piece of advice.
Ok ?!?!

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Nov 27, 2006, 04:18 PM
 
I think in this day and age most "good" companies are more into your productivity (for professionals). Not when you do it. This is a bit of a double edged sword - I can work from home today if I like or just leave early and enjoy the weather as long as I've got my responsiblities handled. However, this also means that someone higher up may ask me to do something on a Friday afternoon. Its been a LONG time since I've worked a "straight" 9-5 job.

The main thing here was communications. The requestor meant one thing, and MrsLarry thought another. I think a simple "I have vacation plans over this Thanksgiving weekend, is Wednesday Okay?" Would have cleared things up. Now, this doesn't mean that the requestor isn't insensitive to the holiday - but still, I wouldnt' think it was "unlawful" or terrible. But I also agree that MrsLarry handled it well with this morning's response.

And if one is non-exempt, I would just simply log the hours.
( Last edited by macroy; Nov 27, 2006 at 04:31 PM. Reason: clarification)
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Originally Posted by what_the_heck View Post
Hm, let me see. I said:

Ok ?!?!

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You seem wrapped a little tight there perhaps you missed my comment on decaf
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Nov 27, 2006, 04:55 PM
 
Originally Posted by mac128k-1984 View Post
You seem wrapped a little tight there perhaps you missed my comment on decaf
How about you admit that you had no clue, and I admit that I need coffee ? Deal ?

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Nov 27, 2006, 05:47 PM
 
Originally Posted by what_the_heck View Post
How about you admit that you had no clue, and I admit that I need coffee ? Deal ?

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Nov 27, 2006, 05:56 PM
 
I get homework all the time... sometimes it's BIG projects.
     
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Nov 27, 2006, 06:23 PM
 
Originally Posted by mac128k-1984 View Post
I'm big enough to admin I was wrong.
I need coffee

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Originally Posted by what_the_heck View Post
I need coffee

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and I need a drink
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and I need a drink
Irish coffee: whiskey with a shot of coffee

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