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The Godfather · Nov 28, 2006, 11:50 AM

Accroding to this, the over half a million gamers are playing the new Zelda, for over a week now. Many of them have presumedly finished the game.

Are you, frugal Gamecube owner, still sitting patiently for December whatever for the GC version, or have you been strongarmed to upgrade your GC?

Dakar² · Nov 28, 2006, 11:51 AM

This couldn't go in the Wii thread?

MindFad · Nov 28, 2006, 11:58 AM

I never even wanna try playing Zelda without the Wii remote now.

Calimus · Nov 28, 2006, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by MindFad

I never even wanna try playing Zelda without the Wii remote now.

I'll second this. The new control scheme really works beautifully with the game.

goMac · Nov 28, 2006, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by Calimus

I'll second this. The new control scheme really works beautifully with the game.

Thirded.

Dark Helmet · Nov 28, 2006, 12:36 PM

I got it but for the widescreen not because the controls.

Chuckit · Nov 28, 2006, 12:37 PM

If I can get a Wii before Dec. 11, I'll buy that, since it sounds pretty cool anyway. But if not, I'll go ahead and get the GameCube version and buy a Wii whenever I get the chance.

MindFad · Nov 28, 2006, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

I got it but for the widescreen not because the controls.

[Thread longevity response: engage!]
So you bought a Wii? And Zelda? So Nintendo won and you lost. End of all the moaning, right?
[/Thread longevity response: disengage!]

Dakar² · Nov 28, 2006, 01:03 PM

When did having something end bitching about it?

Dark Helmet · Nov 28, 2006, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by MindFad

[Thread longevity response: engage!]
So you bought a Wii? And Zelda? So Nintendo won and you lost. End of all the moaning, right?
[/Thread longevity response: disengage!]

Why do you care? Post a hilarious "praying for 3 more pages" graphic and be on your way back to your immersive video game experience on your 13" TV.

MrsLarry · 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by goMac

Thirded.

Fourthded...er.. whatever.

Zelda with the Wiimote is phenomenal. We have a GameCube and Wii, and we'll probably never play the GC again.

You know what they say... Once you Wii, you never flee.

Chuckit · Nov 28, 2006, 02:58 PM

Who says that?

Dakar² · Nov 28, 2006, 03:00 PM

Toad, probably.

MrsLarry · Nov 28, 2006, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

Who says that?

I just did.

MindFad · 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Why do you care? Post a hilarious "praying for 3 more pages" graphic and be on your way back to your immersive video game experience on your 13" TV.

Ooooh, sting! Damn right! You lose.

I'll wait a couple more pages before posting it. Thread's off to a good start, though!

Gossamer · Nov 28, 2006, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by MrsLarry

Fourthded...er.. whatever.

Zelda with the Wiimote is phenomenal. We have a GameCube and Wii, and we'll probably never play the GC again.

You know what they say... Once you Wii, you never flee.

How about 'Once you Wii, you feel relieved'

Dakar² · Nov 28, 2006, 03:10 PM

If only Johnny Cochrane weren't in hell, he could iron this motto out for us.

Mastrap · Nov 28, 2006, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by Gossamer

How about 'Once you Wii, you feel relieved'

This is especially true for gamers with prostrate trouble.

mitchell_pgh · Nov 28, 2006, 03:18 PM

"strongarmed" is a bit strong...

GC users should be happy they even bothered offering it for the GC. If I worked for Nintendo, I wouldn't have...

Dakar² · Nov 28, 2006, 03:21 PM

Yeah well, its bad enough they didn't come through on 100 Marios/Mario 128/whatever it was called, so to pull another game that was being promised for the GC would have been even worse...

Chuckit · Nov 28, 2006, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by mitchell_pgh

"strongarmed" is a bit strong...

GC users should be happy they even bothered offering it for the GC. If I worked for Nintendo, I wouldn't have...

They've been promising it for GameCube for years. If they had reneged, I'd be really pissed, even though I'd prefer to get the Wii version. It would just look bad.

ort888 · Nov 28, 2006, 03:31 PM

I'll buy a Wii sometime early next year. I can't justify spending the money on a console right now. Too many crazy expenses, and then Xmas is coming up.

Dark Helmet · Nov 28, 2006, 03:32 PM

To be honest though as the stage I am currently at with Zelda if i had the choice I would prefer Amazing Visuals, audio and proper cut scenes over the Wii controls.

Jawbone54 · Nov 28, 2006, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

To be honest though as the stage I am currently at with Zelda if i had the choice I would prefer Amazing Visuals, audio and proper cut scenes over the Wii controls.

Dakar² · Nov 28, 2006, 03:39 PM

Oh damn, I could have used that graphic earlier.

Dark Helmet · Nov 28, 2006, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by Jawbone54

I really didn't think I would feel that way but Zelda feels like a hardcore game (at 100 hours remember) on a system that can't quite handle it. The controls are neat but it doesn't cancel out the feeling that the rest of the game feels dated (not just visuals).

Chuckit · Nov 28, 2006, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

I really didn't think I would feel that way but Zelda feels like a hardcore game (at 100 hours remember) on a system that can't quite handle it.

Just to clarify, Twilight Princess isn't near to hitting the limits of the Wii. The Wii isn't as powerful as the Xbox 360, but it is easily more powerful than the GameCube or even the Xbox. And Twilight Princess is still basically a GameCube game.

Adam Betts · Nov 28, 2006, 04:47 PM

Twilight Princess is BEAUTIFUL. Who cares if it doesn't have any of shaders, higher polygon count, etc etc.

I'm a happy owner of both Wii and 360. I don't give a flying f*ck if Wii doesn't have 10 millions polygon per sec. It's beautiful, let's leave it at that.

Dark Helmet · Nov 28, 2006, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

The Wii isn't as powerful as the Xbox 360, but it is easily more powerful than the GameCube or even the Xbox.

Gamecube 480p
Xbox 1: 1080i
Wii: 480p

So where is that "Easily more powerful than an Xbox" part show?

Dark Helmet · Nov 28, 2006, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by Adam Betts

Twilight Princess is BEAUTIFUL. Who cares if it doesn't have any of shaders, higher polygon count, etc etc.

Yes it is as I also mentioned. Problem is everything is a complete blur that with 20/20 vision I can't spot archers on a 50" TV.

My bigger problem is not with the polygons but the dated gameplay and text boxes. Now I know you are used to reading subtitles but almost everyone else rather not.

goMac · Nov 28, 2006, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Gamecube 480p
Xbox 1: 1080i
Wii: 480p

So where is that "Easily more powerful than an Xbox" part show?

You've just done the equivalent of saying that a Core Duo iMac is no more powerful than a G5 iMac simply because they output the same resolution.

Dark Helmet · Nov 28, 2006, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by goMac

You've just done the equivalent of saying that a Core Duo iMac is no more powerful than a G5 iMac simply because they output the same resolution.

Bad analogy. These are specific systems.

Plus I gave you the opportunity to explain what the extra horsepower is used for but you didn't answer.

Lets see, is it used for 5.1 sound output? Nope.

Is it used for higher resolutions? Nope.

Better game Textures. Haven't seen it yet

Better AI. Haven't seen it yet

What is left? 300MHz of extra fun?

Jawbone54 · Nov 28, 2006, 05:36 PM

Blur, lag, 480p, rinse, repeat.

goMac · Nov 28, 2006, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Bad analogy. These are specific systems.

Your point?

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Plus I gave you the opportunity to explain what the extra horsepower is used for but you didn't answer.

Nothing right now because it's a Gamecube port?

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Lets see, is it used for 5.1 sound output? Nope.

Oh c'mon. Just because a system supports 5.1 doesn't mean the games do. And a lot of games don't support 5.1 at all. Same goes for HD.

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Is it used for higher resolutions? Nope.

And I suppose before HD, game companies liked putting more horsepower in their systems just to blow out more hot air?

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Better game Textures. Haven't seen it yet.

You're playing a Gamecube game on the Wii.

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Better AI. Haven't seen it yet

It's a freakin Zelda game.

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

What is left? 300MHz of extra fun?

You own a Wii version of a Gamecube game. Case closed.

icruise · Nov 29, 2006, 02:06 AM

I think we should either confine these kinds of discussions to the Wii thread or (preferably) just let them die. We've already had this particular argument several times before.

brokenjago · Nov 29, 2006, 04:20 AM

If you read any interviews with Shigeru Miyamoto, he clearly states that they had the option of significantly improving the graphics, and instead focused on getting the controls right.

Dark Helmet · Nov 29, 2006, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by goMac

Nothing right now because it's a Gamecube port?

No i am not talking about Zelda. I mean NO GAME will support 5.1 audio or higher res graphics.

So again. Where will this "more powerful than an Xbox 1" show itself?

Chuckit · Nov 29, 2006, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

No i am not talking about Zelda. I mean NO GAME will support 5.1 audio or higher res graphics.

So again. Where will this "more powerful than an Xbox 1" show itself?

Actual number-crunching abilities. It's possible to display huge-resolution images without actually being any good for playing video games. Now that I look, I can't find an actual source for info on the GPU, so maybe I was thinking of rumors. But the Xbox's GPU wasn't much more than a standard PC GPU at the time, so even if the Wii is using an El Cheapo modern GPU, it should be better.

willed · Nov 29, 2006, 10:14 AM

Like listening to a broken record isn't it?... And I don't even care that much about consoles.

Dark Helmet · Nov 29, 2006, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

So even if the Wii is using an El Cheapo modern GPU, it should be better.

That is the question though... "Better" how? In what way can the extra power be used? Is all the extra power going to interpreting the motion controls?