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PorscheTrev · Dec 16, 2006, 11:47 AM

Is there a way to change the default startup sound for the ding to some sound clip I choose?

Thanks

Jawbone54 · Dec 16, 2006, 11:57 AM

Go to system preferences, then network, then configure, then proxies, and the box is on the bottom. You're welcome.

Ghoser777 · Dec 16, 2006, 12:09 PM

???

imitchellg5 · Dec 16, 2006, 12:10 PM

What the heck are you talking about Jawbone?

Ghoser777 · Dec 16, 2006, 12:15 PM

There's lots of funny things you could have told him to do, but having him turn on PASV isn't registerting...

Mediaman_12 · Dec 16, 2006, 12:36 PM

PorscheTrev here's the real answer: No it's not possible to change the Mac's startup 'Ding', as it is contained within the computers firmware not within the OS.

The 'Ding' we have at the moment has been with us since the introduction of the AV Quadra's way back in the early 90's (I think, with a minor change with the intro of the PPC chips).

Jawbone54 · Dec 16, 2006, 01:31 PM

Made you look.

*third grader laugh*

Big Mac · Dec 16, 2006, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by Mediaman_12

The 'Ding' we have at the moment has been with us since the introduction of the AV Quadra's way back in the early 90's (I think, with a minor change with the intro of the PPC chips).

The startup chime has definitely evolved. There are samples of the sounds for the all the models found in Mactracker. Apple should have changed it a bit for the Mactels.

starman · Dec 16, 2006, 06:17 PM

This will be fixed in 10.4.9 when you hear Steve say "BOOM!"

Blasphemy · Dec 16, 2006, 06:38 PM

This should have been in the os x forum.

kick52 · Dec 16, 2006, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by Blasphemy

This should have been in the os x forum.

that would give the thread about the same forum relevance...

Blasphemy · Dec 16, 2006, 10:33 PM

os startup sounds = os related. More relevant, kick52

jokell82 · Dec 16, 2006, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by Blasphemy

os startup sounds = os related. More relevant, kick52

Except it's not an OS startup sound...

kick52 · Dec 16, 2006, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by Blasphemy

os startup sounds = os related. More relevant, kick52

more like computer startup sounds..

Blasphemy · Dec 16, 2006, 10:52 PM

computer startup sound for a mac on a mac forum. OS X. Thanks for playing kick52, but GAME OVER

jokell82 · Dec 16, 2006, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by Blasphemy

computer startup sound for a mac on a mac forum. OS X. Thanks for playing kick52, but GAME OVER

Well since it's been changed for different models of computer it should probably be in a hardware specific forum. And even if you install Linux on your machine it'll still sound, so I'm not sure it has anything to do with OS X.

Game not over?

Blasphemy · Dec 16, 2006, 10:58 PM

but the process is the same regardless of hardware - the process is managed by the OS.

So I say again, OS X forum.

jokell82 · Dec 16, 2006, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by Blasphemy

but the process is the same regardless of hardware - the process is managed by the OS.

So I say again, OS X forum.

Except you are completely wrong about that.

I'm done.

Blasphemy · Dec 16, 2006, 11:01 PM

I'm done too then

OwlBoy · Dec 16, 2006, 11:58 PM

Aint it a hardware sound?

Like if I erased OS X from my disk, it would still do it

-Owl

TheoCryst · Dec 16, 2006, 11:59 PM

The "ding" is held in the system's firmware (either OpenFirmware on PPC or EFI on Intel). There is no way to change it through OS X or any other OS installed on the computer, as it is completely OS-independent. Wipe your hard drive (or remove it altogether) and the sound remains the same.

And I agree that it could have used a little bit of a change for the Intel Macs.

EDIT: Ninja'd!

kick52 · Dec 17, 2006, 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by Blasphemy

computer startup sound for a mac on a mac forum. OS X. Thanks for playing kick52, but GAME OVER

No.

I still have some coins left. I can still play.

- - e r i k - - · Dec 17, 2006, 12:49 AM

Originally Posted by Blasphemy

but the process is the same regardless of hardware - the process is managed by the OS.

So I say again, OS X forum.

No it's not. Give up already. Take your ball and go home. You have been proven wrong.

Oversoul · Dec 17, 2006, 02:57 AM

I want the TAM's startup chime. It's nice, it's different.

imitchellg5 · Dec 17, 2006, 09:59 AM

Yes it's a hardware sound. The last update was when Macs started getting PCI card slots. Then the pitch went deeper. It has nothing to do with software, as stated previously. If will do it without any software installed on your Mac. If you feel like hacking firmware, you can probably change it somehow.

Blasphemy · Dec 17, 2006, 10:09 AM

firmware is still lines of code, but deeper in hardware

if the change process is firmware, but the process is the same firmware process for all macs, then it's not specific to the mac model.

imitchellg5 · Dec 17, 2006, 11:00 AM

NO. For God's sake, firmware is NOT SOFTWARE. Ever heard of firmware hacking? It's possible. But it IS NOT OS X RELATED. When Apple released PCI based Macs with new firmware, they changed the startup sound. It hasn't been changed yet. It's been the same since then. You could have OS 8.1 on a non-PCI based Mac and have the old sound, or OS 8.1 on a PCI-base Mac and have the new sound. You ARE right in that it isn't Mac model specific as in iMac or Power Mac.

Blasphemy · Dec 17, 2006, 11:58 AM

firmware is lines of code written by overweight nerds on caffeine highs. It is not hardware specific, so it doesn't go in any model-specific forum. OS X is the best place for it

MaxPower2k3 · Dec 17, 2006, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by Blasphemy

firmware is lines of code written by overweight nerds on caffeine highs. It is not hardware specific, so it doesn't go in any model-specific forum. OS X is the best place for it

By that logic, if it doesn't have anything to do with hardware, and we've already established that it has nothing to do with OS X, shouldn't it be in, uh, the Lounge?

Oh, wait...

Blasphemy · Dec 17, 2006, 12:06 PM

no, because the lounge isn't the place to handle technical stuff. We all know that. Experienced members just post tech questions here because they are too lazy and impatient to post elsewhere.

MaxPower2k3 · Dec 17, 2006, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by Blasphemy

no, because the lounge isn't the place to handle technical stuff. We all know that. Experienced members just post tech questions here because they are too lazy and impatient to post elsewhere.

The Lounge is where all topics that don't fit into any other forum go. The closest fit for this topic is the Mac Modification forum, where it would probably be acceptable (although that's more for physical hardware hacks). Otherwise, the Lounge it is.

imitchellg5 · Dec 17, 2006, 12:49 PM

At blasefemie: So now you're dissing people who make Macs and put their sweat and blood into making them work. Cool. And since you're so experienced, being a member for only 1 month, I know you are absolutely the final authority about where threads should go. By the way, your user name is quite appropriate.

Blasphemy · Dec 17, 2006, 12:51 PM

do not mistake my join date with my time on the boards. That would be a mistake.

And the lounge is not the catch-all for miscellaneous Mac tech questions. It's the catch-all for social stuff.

vmarks · Dec 17, 2006, 12:56 PM

Do you need a moderator to weigh in?

imitchellg5 · Dec 17, 2006, 12:56 PM

He might, I don't.

Blasphemy · Dec 17, 2006, 01:15 PM

a mod to clarify the best place to have posted this thread - but a mod who is willing to not take sides because his decision will set precedent for future lounge posts

xi_hyperon · Dec 17, 2006, 01:54 PM

Wow. The lounge is serious business these days. The fate of the universe hangs in the balance!

(I kid, I kid)

OwlBoy · 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by Blasphemy

firmware is lines of code written by overweight nerds on caffeine highs. It is not hardware specific, so it doesn't go in any model-specific forum. OS X is the best place for it

Hey, you're insulting my friend. Shut the **** up.

-Owl

jokell82 · Dec 17, 2006, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by Blasphemy

firmware is lines of code written by overweight nerds on caffeine highs. It is not hardware specific, so it doesn't go in any model-specific forum. OS X is the best place for it

It *IS* hardware specific, because different Macs have different firmware.

Blasphemy · Dec 17, 2006, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by jokell82

It *IS* hardware specific, because different Macs have different firmware.

It has nothing to do with the lounge, and the startup sound has nothing to do with a particular mac model

Blasphemy · Dec 17, 2006, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by OwlBoy

Hey, your insulting my friend. Shut the **** up.

-Owl

Your rude and out of line post has been preserved. Also, it's "you're", not "your"

imitchellg5 · 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by Blasphemy

Your rude and out of line post has been preserved. Also, it's "you're", not "your"

Just think about what you type before you type it. You're life will improve. I'd like to see you make a Mac Pro from scratch and write all of the code for it.

jokell82 · Dec 17, 2006, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by Blasphemy

It has nothing to do with the lounge, and the startup sound has nothing to do with a particular mac model

You keep saying that, but you're wrong. Download MacTracker and you can hear the different sounds for different models.

imitchellg5 · Dec 17, 2006, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by jokell82

You keep saying that, but you're wrong. Download MacTracker and you can hear the different sounds for different models.

Here they are:

turtle777 · Dec 17, 2006, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by Blasphemy

I'm done too then

Good. You should be. This whole thread obviously went over your head.

-t

Blasphemy · Dec 17, 2006, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by what_the_heck

Good. You should be. This whole thread obviously went over your head.

-t

statement preserved. Rude and insulting post reported.

turtle777 · Dec 17, 2006, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by Blasphemy

statement preserved. Rude and insulting post reported.

Marden ?

-t

Blasphemy · Dec 17, 2006, 07:49 PM

no one so base

imitchellg5 · Dec 17, 2006, 07:57 PM

Your attitude is tiring.

Y3a · Dec 17, 2006, 08:02 PM

"from the "old French".......Like Neanderthals??