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centerchannel68 · Dec 22, 2006, 03:54 PM

Jag is trying to get these taken down, so look quickly.

imitchellg5 · Dec 22, 2006, 03:57 PM

Ah baby that is hot!

PB2K · 04:07 PM

thats no "jag", it could have been any other brand

Jaguar is becoming faceless. once a brand for the wealthy, they now produce diesels, frontwheel driven cars, and they are without a racing team. They produce stationwagons !! They won't last another 5 years as a luxury brand.

besides, the whole car looks like a Toyota Celica with a nose job

Jim Paradise · Dec 22, 2006, 04:07 PM

It's a BMW crossed with a Lexus.

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centerchannel68 · Dec 22, 2006, 04:08 PM

I think it's great. They're moving more towards aston martin's badass look and ditching those goggly eyes they've had for so long. It looks fresh, sophisticated, and definitely something bond would probably drive. Props to jag!

olePigeon · Dec 22, 2006, 04:13 PM

Now it'll look even cooler on the back of a tow truck.

Kevin · Dec 22, 2006, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by PB2K

thats no "jag", it could have been any other brand

Jaguar is becoming faceless. once a brand for the wealthy, they now produce diesels, frontwheel driven cars, and they are without a racing team. They produce stationwagons !! They won't last another 5 years as a luxury brand.

besides, the whole car looks like a Toyota Celica with a nose job

Hey I always liked the Celica. Esp the GT-S

Doofy · Dec 22, 2006, 04:28 PM

You can tell it's a Ford from a mile away. It's certainly not a proper Jaguar.

Hey Ford - if it ain't broke, don't fix it. You cretins.

Spook E · Dec 22, 2006, 04:43 PM

i like it, looks like a cross between an Austin Martin and the new Subaru WRX

imitchellg5 · Dec 22, 2006, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by Spook E

i like it, looks like a cross between an Austin Martin and the new Subaru WRX

Looks very Ian Callum-ish.

Peter · 06:04 PM

nvm

PB2K · Dec 22, 2006, 05:48 PM

If i had 200.000 to spend on a sedan, it would be on a Maserati Quattroporte

Those are everything

it's a shame they binned the banana shaped tail lights though

centerchannel68 · Dec 22, 2006, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by olePigeon

Now it'll look even cooler on the back of a tow truck.

You're thinking of 80s and early 90s jags like spliffdaddy always raves on about. The newer ones aren't anywhere near as unreliable.

Dakar² · Dec 22, 2006, 06:39 PM

I liked it better the first time, when Aston Martin released it

exca1ibur · Dec 22, 2006, 06:52 PM

AM - DBS all the way...

Wiskedjak · Dec 22, 2006, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by PB2K

thats no "jag", it could have been any other brand

Jaguar is becoming faceless. once a brand for the wealthy, they now produce diesels, frontwheel driven cars, and they are without a racing team. They produce stationwagons !! They won't last another 5 years as a luxury brand.

besides, the whole car looks like a Toyota Celica with a nose job

Agreed. I think it looks like the current Charger design.

misc · Dec 22, 2006, 08:53 PM

O M G

Kevin · Dec 22, 2006, 09:05 PM

You can tell tooki is gone.

monkeybrain · Dec 22, 2006, 09:46 PM

That's plain ugly, like others say, could be any car brand. Looks like the new Aston Martins, which lack all the style of the classics (compare the two Aston Martins in Casino Royale, I think most would take the DB5).

Kerrigan · Dec 23, 2006, 12:50 AM

They are definitely going for the female and minority markets with this thing. That faceless, modern look, with a heavy touch of bling, is sure to win them over.

Ironically, the only big luxury car company which seems to have maintained its identity is Mercedes, even though all of its cars have over-the-top redesigns every few years.

macintologist · 04:07 AM

Two-door sports cars are for kids.

Get a real car like the Rolls Royce Phantom or the Maserati Quattroporte.

Mastrap · Dec 23, 2006, 06:46 AM

That's not a Jag - I have no idea what this is. I mean, look a the ghetto wheels for starters. They've thrown away everything that makes a Jag a Jag, design wise, and build a genero-wedge. Not bad looking but certainly not a Jaguar.

willed · Dec 23, 2006, 07:10 AM

What's with that terrible huge grille? Are they trying to copy Audi? Sorry, but that's not a Jaguar.

Doofy · Dec 23, 2006, 07:46 AM

I'm reminded of the song lyric:

And the 52* daughters of the revolution
turn the gold to chrome

(* nope, nobody else knows who the other two are either)

Mediaman_12 · 09:20 AM

There still being based on Fords then, and this is more similar then the old one.
The NEW (as yet un-released) Mondeo is in Casino Royal (when he turns up at that private members club). Think of that, look at this, it's obviously the same car.

2007 Mondeo concept

Dakar, It's the XK that (like the previous version) uses and very similar design to the Aston.

I doubt that this (the car at the top of the thread)is an 'XK', this is having 'proper' rear seats (with room for people and everything), XK's don't. More likely to be an X-Type.

imitchellg5 · Dec 23, 2006, 08:57 AM

It looks like a very nice evolution of the new XK. Jags still are unreliable- as is anything off the British Isles. My Grandpa's S-Type goes back to the dealer at least once a month- it's a 2004 S-Type R. His 1998 XK had the same issue.

christ · Dec 23, 2006, 10:17 AM

Looks like a mustang concept - nothing like a Jag.

I hate what American 'designers' do to a proper car. Yuk.

Nexus5 · Dec 23, 2006, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by exca1ibur

AM - DBS all the way...

Yea, thats the ultimate sports car.

nexus5.

centerchannel68 · Dec 23, 2006, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by Nexus5

Yea, thats the ultimate sports car.

nexus5.

I dunno about that. I can think of a lot of cars that have a lot more 'sport' in them than that thing. That's a pretty gorgeous expensive car though.

centerchannel68 · Dec 23, 2006, 11:34 AM

Well, the 'cat is outta the bag', so to speak. ha!

Straightline - Detroit Auto Show: Jaguar C-XF Concept � defining Jaguar�s design direction

I think it's sharp looking, and overall a good move by jag to get away from it's stuffy heritage and start building something that competes more with BMW and mercedes, instead of buick.

Mediaman_12 · Dec 23, 2006, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by centerchannel68

I think it's sharp looking, and overall a good move by jag to get away from it's stuffy heritage and start building something that competes more with BMW and mercedes, instead of buick.

The thing is all that "stuffy heritage" is part of what the Jaguar brand is. This looks more like something from a Japanese co. (it has looks of one of the Nissan Skyline Prototypes).

centerchannel68 · Dec 23, 2006, 11:43 AM

Yeah, well, that stuffy heritage is dead. It's not a leader, it's a follower, trapped in the past. This is jaguar trying to rekindle the 'edge' that it once had back in the 60s.

willed · Dec 23, 2006, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by centerchannel68

Yeah, well, that stuffy heritage is dead. It's not a leader, it's a follower, trapped in the past. This is jaguar trying to rekindle the 'edge' that it once had back in the 60s.

Yeah, nice idea, but it this case it's ended up looking like they're just copying Ford's New Edge design language. I'd rather they copy stuffy old (classic?) design than new Ford design. Don't get me wrong, new Fords look nice, they're just not what a Jag should be based on.

And what's with the completely chavvy 45 inch shiny rims? They're just a self parody now, same as the ones on the Aston in Casino Royale. Only pimps and drug dealers would be seen dead with rims like that, not James Bond!

Spliffdaddy · Dec 23, 2006, 01:13 PM

Jaguar has been dead for years....no, decades. The name is the only part that lives.

That concept car looks like a Chrysler 300 with an extended C-pillar.

I think they'd have more success introducing a modern XKE.

centerchannel68 · Dec 23, 2006, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by willed

Yeah, nice idea, but it this case it's ended up looking like they're just copying Ford's New Edge design language. I'd rather they copy stuffy old (classic?) design than new Ford design. Don't get me wrong, new Fords look nice, they're just not what a Jag should be based on.

And what's with the completely chavvy 45 inch shiny rims? They're just a self parody now, same as the ones on the Aston in Casino Royale. Only pimps and drug dealers would be seen dead with rims like that, not James Bond!

Those aren't 45" rims, and a lot of cars have polished alloys. I don't see the problem with them, they don't look terribly different from rims that jaguar offered on other cars prior to this one.

imitchellg5 · Dec 23, 2006, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by centerchannel68

Yeah, well, that stuffy heritage is dead. It's not a leader, it's a follower, trapped in the past. This is jaguar trying to rekindle the 'edge' that it once had back in the 60s.

Jaguars are just quaint olde English cars nowadays. Although my grandpa's S-Type R is quite fun on the drag strip

centerchannel68 · Dec 23, 2006, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by Spliffdaddy

Jaguar has been dead for years....no, decades. The name is the only part that lives.

That concept car looks like a Chrysler 300 with an extended C-pillar.

I think they'd have more success introducing a modern XKE.

This kinda is a modern xke. Cutting edge styling, good performance and a direct attack at today's current sporty sedans/cars. BMW is definitely in jaguar's crosshairs, and this looks to be a much more exciting choice than a generic 3 series like thousands of other people already own.

centerchannel68 · Dec 23, 2006, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by imitchellg5

Jaguars are just quaint olde English cars nowadays. Although my grandpa's S-Type R is quite fun on the drag strip

Surely you're joking. That car is slow. If you want to talk about fast jags... remember this one:

ajprice · Dec 23, 2006, 03:24 PM

More pics and info

PB2K · Dec 23, 2006, 03:46 PM

if it doesn't fit a man in the trunk, it's no "jag"

willed · 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by centerchannel68

Those aren't 45" rims.

Hyperbole

I don't know if you have chavs in the US, but maybe this will give you some idea:

PB2K - spot on with the Audi Photochop

centerchannel68 · Dec 23, 2006, 03:59 PM

Oh, I forgot. Any silver car with firm creases must automatically be an audi.

His Dudeness · Dec 23, 2006, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by PB2K

thats no "jag", it could have been any other brand

Jaguar is becoming faceless. once a brand for the wealthy, they now produce diesels, frontwheel driven cars, and they are without a racing team. They produce stationwagons !! They won't last another 5 years as a luxury brand.

besides, the whole car looks like a Toyota Celica with a nose job

Do crack lately?

willed · 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by centerchannel68

Oh, I forgot. Any silver car with firm creases must automatically be an audi.

Err... and of course the R8's lights and Audi's trademark huge grille?

PB2K · Dec 23, 2006, 04:31 PM

need some more? sorry, i don't sell drugs

Mastrap · Dec 23, 2006, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by imitchellg5

It looks like a very nice evolution of the new XK. Jags still are unreliable- as is anything off the British Isles. My Grandpa's S-Type goes back to the dealer at least once a month- it's a 2004 S-Type R. His 1998 XK had the same issue.

That's a tad unfair. I used to drive a XJ6 which had no problems, ever. Even with the small six cylinder engine it was a joy to drive. When I lived in England I knew a number of people who all drove Jags, none of them experienced any issues. You're thinking of the bad old days in the 60s when British car eclectics were indeed a joke.

Doofy · Dec 23, 2006, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by centerchannel68

Yeah, well, that stuffy heritage is dead.

...and this is why Americans shouldn't be let anywhere near heritage. You guys don't know what it's for because you've never had any.

willed · Dec 23, 2006, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by Mastrap

That's a tad unfair. I used to drive a XJ6 which had no problems, ever. Even with the small six cylinder engine it was a joy to drive. When I lived in England I knew a number of people who all drove Jags, none of them experienced any issues. You're thinking of the bad old days in the 60s when British car eclectics were indeed a joke.

No no - I knew someone who had one once and it had a problem with it so they must all be rubbish!

Spliffdaddy · Dec 23, 2006, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by centerchannel68

This kinda is a modern xke. Cutting edge styling, good performance and a direct attack at today's current sporty sedans/cars. BMW is definitely in jaguar's crosshairs, and this looks to be a much more exciting choice than a generic 3 series like thousands of other people already own.

Well, what I meant was something with the same styling cues as the XKE, just done in a more modern way. Sort of like the new Challenger and Camaro.

As far as reliability goes, Jaguar had problems with the electric systems and the Borg-Warner automatic transmissions. Once they replaced everything with Bosch fuel injection, Delco airconditioning, and GM Turbohydromatic transmissions - the Lucas electrics still kept failing. But that only meant the cruise control, instrument panel, and power windows quit working. The car still drove.

Nexus5 · Dec 23, 2006, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by centerchannel68

I dunno about that. I can think of a lot of cars that have a lot more 'sport' in them than that thing.

OK, youre right - to be a "real" sports car its just to heavy. But I think this configuration is a good ballance between sport and comfort.

That's a pretty gorgeous expensive car though.

"Gorgeous" is the right word - I think its an extremly well designed car.

nexus5.