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Feb 12, 2007, 07:03 AM
 
Last nights (here in the UK) Top Gear was quite amusing. Firstly, I am glad that they appear to have realised that they are more of an entertainment show rather than a serious car reviewing one. I have always been annoyed at Top Gear for their cruddy reporting, sensationalism and idea that if a car can go sideways on the track then it must be good. But enough of that.

The episode was a full hour story about a couple of weeks in the states where they had to buy a car for under $1000, do a few tasks and drive to New Orleans.

Most of it was pretty funny, some of it in a Borat kind of way. However, even though I didn't take offense to it, I can see a number of parts that there will be complaints about. I give them credit for having the balls to it but I know that there will be something on the BBC soon saying how many complaints were made to Ofcom regarding the show. So I guess I am predicting the "why are we spending out licence money on this rubbish" complaints here in the UK.

I did love the dead cow on top of the Camaro though. I can see that the vegos may have a problem with that, particularly when he did the sharp reverse turn to roll it off the roof!

I am sure it is up on YouTube now for you US guys to have a gander.
     
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Feb 12, 2007, 07:16 AM
 
Originally Posted by jebjeb View Post
Last nights (here in the UK) Top Gear was quite amusing. Firstly, I am glad that they appear to have realised that they are more of an entertainment show rather than a serious car reviewing one. I have always been annoyed at Top Gear for their cruddy reporting, sensationalism and idea that if a car can go sideways on the track then it must be good.
With all due respect, my good man, it would appear that it's you who's finally discovered that they're an entertainment show, not a car review show. I've seen those boring Oz car review shows on Channel 5 in the wee hours (wedged in between the Oz V8 and truck racing), so I know where you're coming from.

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I did love the dead cow on top of the Camaro though. I can see that the vegos may have a problem with that, particularly when he did the sharp reverse turn to roll it off the roof!
I lol'ed.

And had a proper belly laugh at Jezza's liquid air conditioning.
     
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Feb 12, 2007, 07:23 AM
 
I watched it lastnight, it was good and funny stuff, but I can see how more 'sensitive' people are going to get offended. It is an entertainment show with cars in it now, not a sensible car review programme, and its great that way.

People used to be able to say that Top Gear was the entertainment and the 5th Gear programme on Channel 5 was what Top Gear used to be (it was all the old Top Gear presenters except Clarkson, doing what Top Gear used to be), but I caught one of the last series of 5th Gear, and its lost the plot, they are trying to be new Top Gear, but on the cheap, and it didn't work.
     
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Feb 12, 2007, 08:18 AM
 
The show is very funny at times. This was one of those times
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Feb 12, 2007, 08:36 AM
 
can't wait for the entire episode is up

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Feb 12, 2007, 08:40 AM
 
She said "I'm getting the boys". Brilliant.
     
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Feb 12, 2007, 09:10 AM
 
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Feb 12, 2007, 09:11 AM
 
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Feb 12, 2007, 09:43 AM
 
Take that, ya limey bastards!

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Feb 12, 2007, 09:46 AM
 
This only goes to confirm my decision not to travel to the USA anymore.

What happened to 'Freedom of speech', it is nothing but hypocrisy and arrogance from the USA.

In 100 years time, people will look back in history and see how the USA destroyed the world through :-

Arrogance, Ignorance, Greed, Xenophobia, Selfishness and most importantly the lack of respect for other Human Beings.

The best example being the terrible state that still exists in New Orleans, why do the rest of the American public let this happen to their so called 'countrymen' - easy "It's not in my backyard". That used to be the case when a disaster happened somewhere outside the USA, they never usually notice, not it happens on US soil and they also lose interest in other peoples suffering.

Only when a 9/11 incident happens do they 'publicly suffer' and milk it for all it is worth.

I travelled to the USA many times in my past and I have many great friends there, but it is turning into the nastiest place on earth, selfish, self-indulgent and vile.
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Feb 12, 2007, 10:02 AM
 
Originally Posted by Doofy View Post
With all due respect, my good man, it would appear that it's you who's finally discovered that they're an entertainment show, not a car review show. I've seen those boring Oz car review shows on Channel 5 in the wee hours (wedged in between the Oz V8 and truck racing), so I know where you're coming from.
Well done for pulling me up on the way I worded that . I guess it was my way of saying "I hope this stops people on the internerd quoting Top Gear as if it was a legitimate car reviewing medium". Sadly there have been a number of people on MacNN that have been guilty of that.

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Feb 12, 2007, 10:04 AM
 
Also, Parky: please don't derail this into a Political thing. There is a reason there is a political lounge and why I don't visit it.
     
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Feb 12, 2007, 10:12 AM
 
Originally Posted by Parky View Post
I travelled to the USA many times in my past and I have many great friends there, but it is turning into the nastiest place on earth, selfish, self-indulgent and vile.
That's a bit harsh, don't you think? I mean, similar statements could easily be made about the UK. Friday night yobs in most major cities, the poverty gap growing by the day, no environmental policies worth talking about - when I lived in London recycling was virtually unheard of, just as an example).

If you live in Europe it's easy to forget just how large a country the US is.
     
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Originally Posted by Parky View Post
This only goes to confirm my decision not to travel to the USA anymore.

What happened to 'Freedom of speech', it is nothing but hypocrisy and arrogance from the USA.

In 100 years time, people will look back in history and see how the USA destroyed the world through :-

Arrogance, Ignorance, Greed, Xenophobia, Selfishness and most importantly the lack of respect for other Human Beings.

The best example being the terrible state that still exists in New Orleans, why do the rest of the American public let this happen to their so called 'countrymen' - easy "It's not in my backyard". That used to be the case when a disaster happened somewhere outside the USA, they never usually notice, not it happens on US soil and they also lose interest in other peoples suffering.

Only when a 9/11 incident happens do they 'publicly suffer' and milk it for all it is worth.

I travelled to the USA many times in my past and I have many great friends there, but it is turning into the nastiest place on earth, selfish, self-indulgent and vile.
     
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Feb 12, 2007, 10:22 AM
 
As Clarkson said, how can the rest of America sleep at night knowing that New Orleans is in this mess ? It was pretty shocking, and a sad indictment of the richest nation on earth.

And those Hicks were scary !

FWIW, I love the west coast of the USA, and everybody I met whilst travelling over there was extremely polite and genuine. I think the rest of the world tends to forget that some parts of the USA are less 'united' than others...
     
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That's a bit harsh, don't you think? I mean, similar statements could easily be made about the UK. Friday night yobs in most major cities, the poverty gap growing by the day, no environmental policies worth talking about - when I lived in London recycling was virtually unheard of, just as an example).
When did you live here ? In the 1970s ?

Most local councils have kerbside recycling programs now, and there's even talk of fining you if you don't recycle. The UK is way ahead of most of the USA in this regard.

The poverty gap ? The rich certainly keep getting richer, but there really isn't an underclass of extremely poor in the UK - our welfare system makes sure that you can't fall out of the net, unlike the USA where you're on your own.

Yobs - er. Yup, here you have a point. It's pretty bad, and getting worse. But at least it's still pretty rare for them to have the kind of armament you have in the USA.
     
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Feb 12, 2007, 10:35 AM
 
Right. Remember when they made the boat cars?

They "sailed" them about five miles away from me. On the journey there, they couldn't possibly have encountered the obstacles they did unless they were actively seeking them (and Gee4orce, if you're in North Staffs rather than South you'll know exactly what I'm saying - the low bridge by Stoke Station which May got stuck under is nowhere near their route between Keele and Rudyard. Not to mention that they actually wouldn't have hit Keele getting off at the M6 junction they did).

So, it's an entertainment show in which some parts are set up for entertainment value. All you whiners get over yourselves. Especially you people with Moss Side on your doorstep.
     
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Most local councils have kerbside recycling programs now, and there's even talk of fining you if you don't recycle.
Yep. And how do they know you haven't been recycling? By snooping in your bins. Very 1984.

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The UK is way ahead of most of the USA in this regard.
Yeah. Most of that recycled stuff ends up in barges destined for Chinese landfill.

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The poverty gap ? The rich certainly keep getting richer, but there really isn't an underclass of extremely poor in the UK - our welfare system makes sure that you can't fall out of the net, unlike the USA where you're on your own.
Yeah, those people getting the free cars looked like they'd gone hungry a time or two.
     
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Feb 12, 2007, 12:04 PM
 
Top Gear mocking USA? Oh My Gee.
     
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Originally Posted by Parky View Post
This only goes to confirm my decision not to travel to the USA anymore.

What happened to 'Freedom of speech', it is nothing but hypocrisy and arrogance from the USA.

In 100 years time, people will look back in history and see how the USA destroyed the world through :-

Arrogance, Ignorance, Greed, Xenophobia, Selfishness and most importantly the lack of respect for other Human Beings.

The best example being the terrible state that still exists in New Orleans, why do the rest of the American public let this happen to their so called 'countrymen' - easy "It's not in my backyard". That used to be the case when a disaster happened somewhere outside the USA, they never usually notice, not it happens on US soil and they also lose interest in other peoples suffering.

Only when a 9/11 incident happens do they 'publicly suffer' and milk it for all it is worth.

I travelled to the USA many times in my past and I have many great friends there, but it is turning into the nastiest place on earth, selfish, self-indulgent and vile.

One thing i think i need to point out to you sir - i have not noticed large mobs of
out_of_control radical muslim fanatics rioting and burning in the USA.

I seem to remember that his did happen not too recently somewhere in the UK............

Your extreme hate gives you something in common with said fanatics - blind hatred
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Wow.

The south is awesome. I could probably move there and be the smartest person in a whole state.
     
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Feb 12, 2007, 05:14 PM
 
Ya I saw that, creepy as hell.

I for one will never step foot in the south as it is full of stupid dangerous people.

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The south is awesome. I could probably move there and be the smartest person in a whole state.
No, CATS C.E.O. is already the smartestest person in the South, Sorry.

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Ya I saw that, creepy as hell.

I for one will never step foot in the south as it is full of stupid dangerous people.
Meh, they have those people all over. Even Canada, I'm sure.
     
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This only goes to confirm my decision not to travel to the USA anymore.
Same here. In fact myself and many others will pay more for a flight to wherever if it DOESN'T include a stopover in the US. The second you go anywhere near the US you are made to feel like a terrorist and they give you a really hard time with everything.

My friends who are italian all get selected for "Random" bomb and baggage checks as I guess brown hair and olive skin makes anyone look al qaeda.

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Originally Posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker View Post
Same here. In fact myself and many others will pay more for a flight to wherever if it DOESN'T include a stopover in the US. The second you go anywhere near the US you are made to feel like a terrorist and they give you a really hard time with everything.

My friends who are italian all get selected for "Random" bomb and baggage checks as I guess brown hair and olive skin makes anyone look al qaeda.
LOL, it works. Keeps the canucks out

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Feb 12, 2007, 05:38 PM
 
Woah, that was pretty entertaining to watch. Shameful, but entertaining. But you gotta realize they were fishing for a reaction, although they didn't expect it to get that bad. Its a shame they wont come to any part of America now that they were treated that way in the deep south. The deep south is a place the majority of Americans would love to forget. Actually, I think they have.
     
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Meh, they have those people all over. Even Canada, I'm sure.
Of course there is but crap like this doesn't happen as often or easily. Nascar sucks is not usually reason enough to "get the boys".

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Feb 12, 2007, 05:49 PM
 
Wow. I bet you people think there's actually two FBI agents out there named "Mulder" and "Scully".

Which bit of it's set up entertainment are you not getting?
     
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Feb 12, 2007, 06:00 PM
 
That was most likely not setup dude. Have you ever been to the south? I'm guessing not. When I was traveling in the south with my friend, who was from Nepal, I thought we were going to get raped/killed.
     
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That was most likely not setup dude.
Most likely it was. Read my above post about when Top Gear came to my town.

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Have you ever been to the south? I'm guessing not.
Yep.

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When I was traveling in the south with my friend, who was from Nepal, I thought we were going to get raped/killed.
Well, your lips are kinda priddy.

Dude, you manage to get yourself nearly killed in your own hometown - waving throwing knives around and stuff like that.
     
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A friend of mine who is a BIG hockey player drove through the south with his dad and friend. All big strong white guys.

They were both scared shitless the whole time as everything was exactly like the cliché's. Hillbilly's in overalls, inbreed judging by the physical traits, guns and a whole lot of stupidity as at every turn someone tried to pick a fight with them.

The swore never to drive in the south again.

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Feb 12, 2007, 06:40 PM
 
Doofy, I cordially invite you to travel the deep south, avoiding any metropolitan areas, with a little british roadster or something.
     
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Doofy, I cordially invite you to travel the deep south, avoiding any metropolitan areas, with a little british roadster or something.
Put him in a Mazda Miata and it is like playing Russian Rullet except all the chambers have bullets.

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Feb 12, 2007, 06:49 PM
 
Silly people.

America, even the deep south, is not that bad. It was television folks. It was set up. Zero question about it.
     
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Originally Posted by centerchannel68 View Post
Doofy, I cordially invite you to travel the deep south, avoiding any metropolitan areas, with a little british roadster or something.
I think you're kinda forgetting that I look more like Zakk Wylde than Steve Jobs.
     
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Feb 12, 2007, 07:13 PM
 
Part of me thinks it'd be funny to travel through the south picking fights with rednecks, but then I remember they travel in packs ("I'll fetch the boys") and I think again.

They're only funny from a distance.
     
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Part of me thinks it'd be funny to travel through the south picking fights with rednecks, but then I remember they travel in packs ("I'll fetch the boys") and I think again.

They're only funny from a distance.
Yeah, and "the boys" often include the local police. So if you happen to get into a little scuffle, good luck getting any cops to help you out afterwards.
     
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Man, quite a few of you are coming across as pretty retarded. I've lived in the deep south most of my life. I mean the deeeeeeep fuggin' south, buddy. Aside from a few close calls while letting my mouth write checks my ass wasn't willing to cash, I've managed to do ok. In my experience, taunting the "locals" wherever you might be can occasionally get you into some ****. I'd imagine your ass could be violated equally as well in certain parts of Illinois or New York state.

But hey, makes me feel tougher knowing that you Nancies are too terrified to travel through the big bad south.

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That was some good editing, only pussies are scared of the south

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Seriously. And I'm mad at myself for feeling like I'm sticking up for it. I honestly can't stand the south. The weather sucks, the air tends to stink (along the coast) and unlike these dipshits assumptions, college football comes before god. But come on... this reminds me of the beginning of Die Hard 3 or something.

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Man, quite a few of you are coming across as pretty retarded. I've lived in the deep south most of my life. I mean the deeeeeeep fuggin' south, buddy. Aside from a few close calls while letting my mouth write checks my ass wasn't willing to cash, I've managed to do ok. In my experience, taunting the "locals" wherever you might be can occasionally get you into some ****. I'd imagine your ass could be violated equally as well in certain parts of Illinois or New York state.

But hey, makes me feel tougher knowing that you Nancies are too terrified to travel through the big bad south.
I'll travel through it on major highways, and only stop at touristy towns...but other than that, it's kinda ... yeccch.
     
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Last nights (here in the UK) Top Gear was quite amusing. Firstly, I am glad that they appear to have realised that they are more of an entertainment show rather than a serious car reviewing one. I have always been annoyed at Top Gear for their cruddy reporting, sensationalism and idea that if a car can go sideways on the track then it must be good. But enough of that.

The episode was a full hour story about a couple of weeks in the states where they had to buy a car for under $1000, do a few tasks and drive to New Orleans.

Most of it was pretty funny, some of it in a Borat kind of way. However, even though I didn't take offense to it, I can see a number of parts that there will be complaints about. I give them credit for having the balls to it but I know that there will be something on the BBC soon saying how many complaints were made to Ofcom regarding the show. So I guess I am predicting the "why are we spending out licence money on this rubbish" complaints here in the UK.

I did love the dead cow on top of the Camaro though. I can see that the vegos may have a problem with that, particularly when he did the sharp reverse turn to roll it off the roof!

I am sure it is up on YouTube now for you US guys to have a gander.
After watching their review of Ariel's Atom or Cadillac's V-Series CTS, you just figured out they're entertainment? I digress because Top Gear is an entertaining show to watch and know for a fact that anything that can go sideways is fun.
     
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After watching their review of Ariel's Atom or Cadillac's V-Series CTS, you just figured out they're entertainment? I digress because Top Gear is an entertaining show to watch and know for a fact that anything that can go sideways is fun.
No, I haven't just realised that they are an entertainment show, I think they are finally starting to convince the general viewing public about that. I have always commented on the fact that Top Gear is more about entertainment than serious reviewing and have called many people on using this is a main/single source of an opinion on a vehicle.

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Feb 13, 2007, 03:09 AM
 
great episode.
how do American sleep at night knowing Orleans is like that?
     
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@Peter
I agree, I was pretty surprised. I thought they had at least leveled the houses that are beyond repair.
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