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Feb 12, 2007, 03:41 PM
 
I'm listening to "Rapture" from Blondie - 1979. Was this the first rap song? I don't remember rap being what we know it now until a few years later.

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Feb 12, 2007, 03:49 PM
 
rapper's delight? also from 1979
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Feb 12, 2007, 03:51 PM
 
Well I don't know about first but the first to get on the top 10 charts might be:

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Feb 12, 2007, 03:57 PM
 
Rapper's Delight by the Sugarhill Gang in 1979 is generally recognized as the first rap song. At least the first with widespread radio play.

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Feb 12, 2007, 04:02 PM
 
Ok, I was wrong about the year "Rapture" came out. It was 11/80, not 1979.

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"Rapture" was the first song containing elements of rap music vocals to reach number one in the U.S. and helped introduce the then underground rap genre to a larger audience.

I do remember Rapper's Delight, but I thought it was out a year after Rapture.

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Feb 12, 2007, 04:22 PM
 
I'm looking forward to the last rap song.
     
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Feb 12, 2007, 05:22 PM
 
Originally Posted by BlueSky View Post
I'm looking forward to the last rap song.


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Feb 12, 2007, 05:42 PM
 
The first REAL rap album was "The Chronic" by Dr DRE. Everything before that sounds a little too rudimentary or soft to be considered true gangsta rap.
     
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Feb 12, 2007, 05:56 PM
 
King Tim III (Personality Jock) by the Fatback Band.
     
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Feb 12, 2007, 05:59 PM
 
Originally Posted by macintologist View Post
The first REAL rap album was "The Chronic" by Dr DRE. Everything before that sounds a little too rudimentary or soft to be considered true gangsta rap.
So gangsta rap is real rap?

Anyways, yes Rapper's Delight is recognized as the first rap song to reach any sort of popularity.
     
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Feb 12, 2007, 06:01 PM
 
Originally Posted by OAW
Rapper's Delight by the Sugarhill Gang in 1979 is generally recognized as the first rap song. At least the first with widespread radio play.
What about Grandmaster Flash's "The Message" - I thought that was considered the first.
     
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Feb 12, 2007, 06:26 PM
 
From wiki...

The main historical eras of hip hop are the old school hip hop era (1970 to 1985), which spanned from the beginning of hip hop until its emergence into the mainstream, and the golden age hip hop era (1985 to 1993), which consolidated the sounds of the East Coast and the West Coast and transitioned into the modern era with the rise of gangsta rap and G-funk, created by the West Coast. The years after 1993 contain the hardcore hip hop, bling, and underground genres, which largely define the modern era.
Hip hop arose during the 1970s at block parties in New York City, at which the DJs began isolating the percussion breaks to hit funk, soul, R&B and disco songs. The roots of this type of songs stem back to the mid-1950s when soul/funk rock artist James Brown credit Little Richard's band as having been the first to put the funk in the rock beat. These songs were based on – "breakbeat" DJing. As hip hop became popular, performers began speaking while the music played, and became known as MCs or emcees. In 1979, the first commercially issued hip hop recordings were released: "Rapper's Delight" by The Sugarhill Gang which became a Top 40 hit on the U.S. Billboard pop singles chart. 'Rapper' in reference to music was actually coined by this song. Some historians cite King Tim III (Personality Jock) by the Fatback Band to be the first commercially released hip hop recording but they were a funk and disco group.
During the 1980s, hip hop began to diversify and develop into a more complex form. At the same time, more sophisticated techniques were developed, including scratching, and electronic recording. In the late 1980s, a number of new hip hop styles and subgenres began appearing as the genre gained popularity. Hip hop musicians collaborated with rock bands and spread out into the genres of conscious hip hop, jazz-rap and gangsta rap.
In the 1990s, a prolonged confrontation between West Coast gangsta rappers and the resurging East Coast began. It centered around Tupac Shakur and The Notorious B.I.G. and led to both of their deaths, in 1996 and 1997 respectively. In 1996, Cleveland-based rap group Bone Thugs-N-Harmony tied The Beatles' 32-year-old record for fastest-rising single with "Tha Crossroads," and in 2000, Scottish-American White rapper Eminem's The Marshall Mathers LP sold over nine million copies and won a Grammy Award.

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Feb 12, 2007, 06:30 PM
 
Top 10?? Who gives a crap. Gangster rap? Gangster rap came well over a decade after rap was introduced.

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Feb 12, 2007, 06:32 PM
 
Originally Posted by El Gato View Post
What about Grandmaster Flash's "The Message" - I thought that was considered the first.
That would be 1982! Another classic though.

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Feb 12, 2007, 06:41 PM
 
Lou Reed's "Take a walk on the wild side" (1974).
     
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Feb 12, 2007, 06:43 PM
 
Originally Posted by BlueSky View Post
I'm looking forward to the last rap song.
Nice, me too.
     
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Feb 12, 2007, 06:45 PM
 
Bob Dylan's "Subterranean Homesick Blues" (1965)
     
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Feb 12, 2007, 06:47 PM
 
Rap was awesome in the 80's as it was fun as they sang about going to the principles office or break-dancing at a friends house party. Then by the mid 90's it got to be all about shootn' disrespecting niggas and smacking hoes.

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Feb 12, 2007, 06:50 PM
 
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Go watch WildStyle or Style Wars you numbskulls. Beat Street even.
Don't forget "Breakin' 2 - Electric Boogaloo" featuring Ice-T.

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Feb 12, 2007, 07:02 PM
 
The Diamonds "Little Darlin'" (1957).
     
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Feb 12, 2007, 07:07 PM
 
Originally Posted by Sub View Post
Nice, me too.
It's one thing to dislike a genre of music, and another thing to wish for its demise. You must be one intolerant asshole.
     
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Feb 12, 2007, 07:23 PM
 
I think we all know the real reason why your calling me an intolerant asshole, and it's not because of music.
     
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Feb 12, 2007, 08:24 PM
 
Originally Posted by Sub View Post
I think we all know the real reason why your calling me an intolerant asshole, and it's not because of music.
Actually if you look at the times of my posts, yes, I called you an intolerant asshole about music first. Only afterwards did I realize you were an intolerant asshole about other things too.
     
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Feb 12, 2007, 09:10 PM
 
Originally Posted by Face Ache View Post
Bob Dylan's "Subterranean Homesick Blues" (1965)
Also "It's Alright, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding)" from the same album.

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Feb 12, 2007, 09:40 PM
 
Sly Stone's "Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin)" (1970)

Curtis Mayfield's "Pusherman" (1972)
     
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Feb 12, 2007, 09:51 PM
 
'Ringo' by Lorne Greene. Long freaking time ago.

Or how bout George Burns. He was a rapper.
     
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Feb 12, 2007, 10:31 PM
 
I remember back in the early or mid 70's there was a song about Vietnam that I thought was rap.
     
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Feb 12, 2007, 10:34 PM
 
Originally Posted by Buckaroo View Post
I remember back in the early or mid 70's there was a song about Vietnam that I thought was rap.
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Sucky sucky, me love you long time?
Noooo. There were no Vietnamees singing. It was american. I recall it kept saying 19, the average age of an American soldier 19.
     
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Feb 12, 2007, 10:43 PM
 
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Feb 13, 2007, 04:12 AM
 
Not the song you were thinking about, but appropriate:

YouTube - I Was Only 19

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Feb 13, 2007, 05:12 AM
 
Originally Posted by - - e r i k - - View Post
Not the song you were thinking about, but appropriate:

YouTube - I Was Only 19
Gah! Some things shouldn't be rappinated.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OHbR_W0eIpA

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Feb 13, 2007, 06:27 AM
 
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1979:
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1980:
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Feb 13, 2007, 07:11 AM
 
Originally Posted by Face Ache View Post
Gah! Some things shouldn't be rappinated.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OHbR_W0eIpA

^Original. Better.
I dunno. I don't mind that one at all. And apparently Redgum agrees

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Feb 13, 2007, 09:49 AM
 
My wife says Frank Zappa was the original rapper.
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Originally Posted by Sky Captain View Post
My wife says Frank Zappa was the original rapper.
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Feb 18, 2007, 10:17 PM
 
Nobody here is even close.
The first rap song is "Walk This Way" by Aerosmith
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Feb 18, 2007, 10:19 PM
 
Nope...Aerosmith... Walk This Way 1975
     
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Nope.
Aerosmith...Walk This Way...1975
     
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Way to check your facts there squire:
In addition to being one of the songs that helped break Aerosmith into the mainstream in the 1970s, it also helped resurrect their career and revolutionized rock and roll and hip hop music when it was re-made in 1986 with rappers Run-D.M.C. on their album Raising Hell. It became an international hit and won both groups a Soul Train Music Award for Best Rap - Single in 1987.

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Mar 2, 2007, 01:58 PM
 
The history making first ever rap record/song was King Tim III (Personality Jock) done by Rap pioneer Mr. Tim Washington from New York in 1979 Music by The Fatback Band. You can impress folks by explaining to them that only educated musicologists know that King Tim III (Personality Jock) was the first rap song... So many are clueless about this fact in music history. I see some people write stupid articles saying that it was a recording from a non rap group? He is a rapper with backup music from a soul/funk group, so what? This is nothing new in the industry. Rappers Delight released months later was not the first rap song/record regardless of it's commercial success at that time. Many would like to dismiss this fact,but you cannot change music history! I was in high school when all the early rap hits came out. I was there ,and lived through the birth of Hip hop. It was a fun time!
     
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Early Hip Hop was Raw
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Mar 2, 2007, 02:22 PM
 
The Fatback Band provided the music for King Tim III (KING TIM the THIRD) Rapper who was not a member of the band. The same way Chic provided the music sample "Good Times" for the Sugarhill Gang
KING TIM III

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http://farm1.static.flickr.com/137/4...f281fe06_o.jpg
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Originally Posted by Face Ache View Post
Gah! Some things shouldn't be rappinated.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OHbR_W0eIpA

^Original. Better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byCCmBwRjGw

     
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Jul 25, 2012, 08:23 PM
 
Frank Zappa...Don't Eat the Yellow Snow. Good tunes and good times!

I remember lots of good tunes with various twists and turns on rap music. There does exist many different styles of RAP from various artists throughout decades of music history. Everyone has their own taste in music and according to our US constitution we have the right to our opinion. Thank the stars above for the right to listen to the music we like. Just keep in mind, the freedom to choose what we like should never be put down; respect the choice of others to choose their own style. I do respect yours
     
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Jul 25, 2012, 11:27 PM
 
Appropriate link (START READING AT THE BOTTOM):

http://boingboing.net/2012/04/17/brain-rot-hip-hop-family-tree-16.html
     
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Jul 26, 2012, 04:29 AM
 
Originally Posted by - - e r i k - - View Post
Not the song you were thinking about, but appropriate:

YouTube - I Was Only 19
This may be the one .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJetZ-x1YaU
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Jul 26, 2012, 04:32 AM
 
Luke The Drifter (Hank Williams Sr.) was the first!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1QhVghiddM
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