[apogee]

Some bozo is hosting sexually explicit material on .Mac. Is this permissible?

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[Chuckit]

Why should anybody care?

[apogee]

I think as Apple supporters we should be aware of these kinds of developments.

If Apple is hosting porn, I'm not as excited about supporting Apple.

I kinda' like my family-friendly computer company.

[kick52]

oh man, thats SO HOT!

err.. yes, i mean, .. yes. there must be rules about this kinda thing.

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by apogee 

I think as Apple supporters we should be aware of these kinds of developments.

If Apple is hosting porn, I'm not as excited about supporting Apple.

I kinda' like my family-friendly computer company.

Dude, I don't have a problem with that, and I wasn't even the one who was putting in Google terms that would lead them to that site.

Just because you allow somebody to host something on your site doesn't necessarily mean you like that kind of content. If I run a Web host, should I forbid people from hosting a Fergie fansite there just because I think Fergie blows chunks? Same theory.

[::maroma::]

Check the .Mac EULA and it should tell you if you're allowed to put stuff like that on .Mac servers.

I'm far too lazy to check myself.

[peeb]

I would think that, just like any other web host, as long as what you are posting is legal, there should be no issues. I certainly don't want my webhost to behave like Big Christian Brother.

[ghporter]

If this were simply a case of someone posting his/her personal pictures, I'd agree that it's no big deal. But it's really just advertising for a pay-for-porn site. I do not believe that this is acceptable under the .Mac terms of service.

Illegal, tortious and prohibited conduct

.Mac may be used only for lawful and proper purposes. The laws and rules that apply in the off-line world must be obeyed on-line as well. Posting, transmitting, promoting, using, distributing or storing Content that could subject Apple to any legal liability, whether in tort or otherwise, or that is in violation of any applicable law or regulation, or otherwise contrary to commonly accepted community standards, is prohibited, including information and material protected by copyright, trademark, trade secret, nondisclosure or confidentiality agreements, or other intellectual property rights, and material that is obscene, defamatory, constitutes a threat, or violates export control laws. If Apple elects to terminate your right to use .Mac as a result of any illegal or prohibited conduct, Apple may elect, in its sole discretion (subject to applicable law), not to refund any prepaid fees or other amounts to you.

Examples of prohibited conduct are:

* Posting obscene Content (including child pornography)
* Planning illegal activity, such as building a bomb or counterfeiting money
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* Pretending to be anyone you are not—you may not impersonate or misrepresent yourself as another person (including celebrities), another .Mac user, an Apple employee, or a civic or government leader; Apple reserves the right to reject or block any .Mac user name which could be deemed to be an impersonation or misrepresentation of your identity, or a misappropriation of another person's name or identity
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* Engaging in copyright infringement or other intellectual property infringement, or disclosing trade secret or confidential information in violation of a confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement
* If you believe that illegal, tortious or other prohibited Content is being transmitted through any .Mac service, you may report it by filling out the abuse reporting form located in the "Reporting Abuse" section of the .Mac Help system.

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* Posting Content that defames, abuses or threatens physical harm to others or yourself

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[msuper69]

and this relates to OS X in what manner?

and isn't posting the links on Macnn a violation of the Macnn rules?

I think the op and the .mac user are one and the same. Why else post the links? Why not just ask the question?

[DigitalEl]

Originally Posted by apogee

I think as Apple supporters we should be aware of these kinds of developments.

If Apple is hosting porn, I'm not as excited about supporting Apple.

I kinda' like my family-friendly computer company.

Get a life. Why is it your business what someone posts on their .Mac site. If you don't wanna see it don't go there.

Originally Posted by msuper69

I think the op and the .mac user are one and the same. Why else post the links? Why not just ask the question?

Bingo! And we have a winner! Otherwise, how would you even discover that site?

[ghporter]

Originally Posted by DigitalEl 

Get a life. Why is it your business what someone posts on their .Mac site. If you don't wanna see it don't go there.

Bingo! And we have a winner! Otherwise, how would you even discover that site?

Originally Posted by msuper69 

and this relates to OS X in what manner?

and isn't posting the links on Macnn a violation of the Macnn rules?

I think the op and the .mac user are one and the same. Why else post the links? Why not just ask the question?

You may have a point there. I hadn't considered that.

[MindFad]

They're all the same picture? Lame.

[cgc]

Originally Posted by apogee 

Some bozo is hosting sexually explicit material on .Mac. Is this permissible?

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What's the URL for this supposed porn? We probably should se for ourselves Naw, Apple can't be censorring people's sites, free speech and all.

[goMac]

Looks like it's against Apple's terms of use, and the account could be suspended if Apple found out.

[kmkkid]

Originally Posted by goMac 

Looks like it's against Apple's terms of use, and the account could be suspended if Apple found out.

It might fall under obscene/lewd, but maybe it was tasteful? A naked person isn't necessarily offensive as long as it's just a nude person and not a sexual act being preformed.

[goMac]

Originally Posted by kmkkid 

It might fall under obscene/lewd, but maybe it was tasteful? A naked person isn't necessarily offensive as long as it's just a nude person and not a sexual act being preformed.

The OP specifically said "sexually explicit".

"Examples of prohibited conduct are:

* Posting obscene Content (including child pornography)"

[kmkkid]

Originally Posted by goMac 

The OP specifically said "sexually explicit".

"Examples of prohibited conduct are:

* Posting obscene Content (including child pornography)"

God only knows what this guy finds 'sexually explicit' though. I myself didn't bother looking at the links while up, so it could have been rhinos humping each other for all I know.

[MindFad]

Naked chick holding a man's penis. I can't imagine what she was going to do with it—especially since every link had the same picture. This thread does not deliver.

[kmkkid]

Originally Posted by MindFad 

Naked chick holding a man's penis. I can't imagine what she was going to do with it—especially since every link had the same picture. This thread does not deliver.

I wouldn't call that sexually explicit then.

[::maroma::]

Originally Posted by MindFad 

Naked chick holding a man's penis. I can't imagine what she was going to do with it—especially since every link had the same picture. This thread does not deliver.

Was the penis still attached to the man? If not, then its more of an art piece than anything else.

[Jawbone54]

Originally Posted by ::maroma:: 

Was the penis still attached to the man? If not, then its more of an art piece than anything else.

[peeb]

Originally Posted by ::maroma:: 

Was the penis still attached to the man? If not, then its more of an art piece than anything else.

More like evidence of a crime scene, I would say.

[kmkkid]

Originally Posted by peeb 

More like evidence of a crime scene, I would say.

That'd be cool snuff film material

[::maroma::]

Originally Posted by kmkkid 

That'd be cool snuff film material

Maybe an homage to the Lorena Bobbit story?

[kmkkid]

Originally Posted by ::maroma:: 

Maybe an homage to the Lorena Bobbit story?

Yeah, unfortunately they're both still alive.