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wallinbl · Mar 10, 2007, 06:20 AM

This time, it's rather sick - she slept with a "16-year-old special ed student who suffers from depression and other problems".

FOXNews.com - NY Teacher Accused of Sex With Student - Sean Hannity | Alan Colmes | Hannity & Colmes

TETENAL · Mar 10, 2007, 07:17 AM

The boy had reportedly denied claims to the school's investigator but then later admitted something was going on to his mother

Maybe you should wait a while before you claim as a fact she did it.

ghporter · Mar 10, 2007, 07:36 AM

My first reaction is "if this is on Fox, it's blown way out of proportion." My second reaction is "gee, that first reaction was right on target!" My third reaction is "how challenged is the kid, and what else may be possible explanations for this?" "Special Education" could mean anything from children with mental retardation to ADD/ADHD to mental illness. My impression, because "depression" was mentioned, is that the kid has some learning disability like ADD or ADHD (which often has depression as a side effect), and that this 16 year old's hormones are at full boil, so it's possible that he reported a story that had more to do with his imagination than reality.

If there is any real evidence (good luck getting that from any Fox "news"), then we have one more reprehensible teacher who violated the trust that the school and parents put in her. However, lacking any evidence, and pending an investigation for such evidence, I'll reserve judgement.

wallinbl · 08:30 AM

This was reported in a variety of places, not just Fox. That just happened to be the link that came from the digg post I saw.

7Online.com: New York City and Tri-State News from WABC-TV
wcbstv.com - NYC Teacher Charged With Raping 13-Year-Old
LADY TEACH IN BOY 'RAPE' By DAVID ANDREATTA Education Reporter - Regionalnews - New York Post Online Edition

Ghoser777 · Mar 10, 2007, 05:03 PM

Do these teachers not realize there are plenty of men closer to their age they can bang?

Chuckit · Mar 10, 2007, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by wallinbl

This was reported in a variety of places, not just Fox. That just happened to be the link that came from the digg post I saw.

7Online.com: New York City and Tri-State News from WABC-TV
wcbstv.com - NYC Teacher Charged With Raping 13-Year-Old
LADY TEACH IN BOY 'RAPE' By DAVID ANDREATTA Education Reporter - Regionalnews - New York Post Online Edition

Those are three stories about a different woman and a different boy…

ShortcutToMoncton · Mar 10, 2007, 05:37 PM

Teacher Arrested For Allegedly Having Sexual Affair With Student

My girlfriend is currently teaching at this school and knows her fairly well. Says she's an amazing teacher.

greg

wallinbl · Mar 10, 2007, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

Those are three stories about a different woman and a different boy…

Read further down. They all reference this woman.

Adam Betts · Mar 10, 2007, 06:33 PM

Seems like mini hot dog is the rage these days for female teachers

nredman · Mar 10, 2007, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by Ghoser777

Do these teachers not realize there are plenty of men closer to their age they can bang?

no doubt - hasn't every story like this involved a good looking woman? go to the bar and have a few - there is probably 100 guys there who would take you home.

Salty · Mar 10, 2007, 10:44 PM

But if she wants control over the situation, or has some other motive a man at the bar is not going to fulfill what she desires.

dcmacdaddy · Mar 10, 2007, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by Salty

But if she wants control over the situation, or has some other motive a man at the bar is not going to fulfill what she desires.

Bingo! We have a winner. Sexual assault is ALWAYS about power and control. This isn't some horny teacher looking for a hook-up who has had complete failure in having sex with men her own age. She's got other issues that are being manifest through her behavior of having sex with adolescent or pre-teen boys.

aristotles · Mar 11, 2007, 12:20 AM

Originally Posted by wallinbl

This time, it's rather sick - she slept with a "16-year-old special ed student who suffers from depression and other problems".

FOXNews.com - NY Teacher Accused of Sex With Student - Sean Hannity | Alan Colmes | Hannity & Colmes

It's more sick because he was depressed? Maybe she was just trying to cheer him up.

You think it's less wrong if the student does not have problems getting a girl his own age?

aristotles · Mar 11, 2007, 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by dcmacdaddy

Bingo! We have a winner. Sexual assault is ALWAYS about power and control. This isn't some horny teacher looking for a hook-up who has had complete failure in having sex with men her own age. She's got other issues that are being manifest through her behavior of having sex with adolescent or pre-teen boys.

Adolescent or pre-teen boys?

He is sixteen. He is old enough to drive a car. Motor vehicles are capable of killing people.

- - e r i k - - · Mar 11, 2007, 01:05 AM

By age-factor alone this is a non-story. 23 and 16? Completely normal.

What made this student so "special" though? Just being depressed isn't really a mental disability. Nothing like some humping to get cheered up

Atomic Rooster · Mar 11, 2007, 01:20 AM

Where in jeezuz were these female teachers when I was in school?

That is the important question here.

Gossamer · Mar 11, 2007, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by - - e r i k - -

By age-factor alone this is a non-story. 23 and 16? Completely normal.

What made this student so "special" though? Just being depressed isn't really a mental disability. Nothing like some humping to get cheered up

While biologically normal and probably legal (depending on the state, I think 16 is the cutoff), due to her job and the position she's in, she shouldn't be doing this.

Gossamer · Mar 11, 2007, 10:12 AM

I bet she cleans up nice.

smacintush · Mar 11, 2007, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by Gossamer

I bet she cleans up nice.

That's what I thought too.

Put me in the camp of "WHERE THE **** WERE THESE TEACHERS WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL???? "

Miniryu · Mar 11, 2007, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by aristotles

Adolescent or pre-teen boys?

16: Adolescent? Yes. Pre-teen? No.

Originally Posted by - - e r i k - -

What made this student so "special" though? Just being depressed isn't really a mental disability. Nothing like some humping to get cheered up

I work with emotionally troubled youth. While many are extremely intelligent, they are also incredibly vulnerable (youth in general are, but thow in your larger than typical dose of confusion with life). This teacher knows this, and I'm disgusted in her.

Originally Posted by Atomic Rooster

Where in jeezuz were these female teachers when I was in school?

Banging the straight A students- you didn't think they earned those grades, did you?

wallinbl · Mar 11, 2007, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by Atomic Rooster

Where in jeezuz were these female teachers when I was in school?

At my school, it was a male teacher sleeping with female students. Didn't find out until I was in college and he was arrested. He used to make suggestive jokes during class that seemed inappropriate, but even the girls were laughing so we all just laughed. It changes your perspective on them once you find out what he had been doing. Apparently, he had gotten away with it for years with a variety of different girls (although one of those girls would have sex with anything that had the general size and shape of a penis).

ghporter · Mar 11, 2007, 06:18 PM

While a 16-year old is nearing physical maturity and is quite capable of doing a number of high-level things like driving, ALL 16-year olds are intellectually and emotionally immature. They are thus subject to and vulnerable to manipulation and exploitation. And if you think boys this age are "tougher emotionally" than girls the same age, I think you misremember your youth. Most boys that age are well aware of their limitations and their awkwardness, which makes them particularly easy to manipulate.

Further, no matter what the "age difference and age of consent" rules in that situation, (it's at least 17 in Texas, but there are special considerations if the age difference is five years or less), it's an abuse of position, authority, and power.

macintologist · Mar 11, 2007, 07:47 PM

Bah, I fail to see anything so wrong with this. 16 and 23 years old. That's not a big difference. If the kid was suffering from depression maybe a good humping would cheer him up?

Gossamer · Mar 11, 2007, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by macintologist

Bah, I fail to see anything so wrong with this. 16 and 23 years old. That's not a big difference. If the kid was suffering from depression maybe a good humping would cheer him up?

Read the post before yours, there's much more than an age difference to take into consideration.

wallinbl · Mar 11, 2007, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by macintologist

If the kid was suffering from depression maybe a good humping would cheer him up?

Depression isn't just feeling depressed.

ghporter · Mar 11, 2007, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by wallinbl

Depression isn't just feeling depressed.

It also doesn't get you into special ed. What bothers me is that it's not clear what DID get this student into SE. The WABC report says he "suffers from psychiatric problems" which the NY Post attributes to an assistant DA. WHAT problems? Is he delusional? Is he delayed? Is he compulsive? That makes a big difference.

Miniryu · Mar 11, 2007, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by aristotles

Adolescent or pre-teen boys?

He is sixteen. He is old enough to drive a car. Motor vehicles are capable of killing people.

Originally Posted by - - e r i k - -

By age-factor alone this is a non-story. 23 and 16? Completely normal.

What made this student so "special" though? Just being depressed isn't really a mental disability. Nothing like some humping to get cheered up

Originally Posted by ghporter

It also doesn't get you into special ed.

Sure it does. Most depression is almost always coupled with another minor diagnosis. I'm working with such a student right now, as evidence. With sever depression comes with emotional disturbance, which is how they slip one into the sytem.