[Peter]

Drunken German Heinrich Mueller, 28, has been arrested after climbing into one of the emergency post boxes for unwanted babies.

As Mueller slid down the chute he ended up in an emergency incubator, triggering alarms among medical staff that another unwanted baby had been deposited.

http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article...p;in_page_id=2


I dont know whats more scary... A man pretending to be a baby or the fact they have unwanted baby chutes.

[Madrag]

the title is missleading

the unweanted chutes are creepy!

[zro]

Wait a minute.

Dumpster babies are so common in Germany that they need "post boxes" that you can deposit them in instead? Seriously, WTF?

[Mastrap]

Originally Posted by Peter 

I dont know whats more scary... A man pretending to be a baby or the fact they have unwanted baby chutes.

Why is that scary? It prevents young mothers from abandoning babies in situations that could be harmful to the child. It seems a perfectly sensible emergency solution, similarly to the idea of needle exchanges for heroin addicts. It means that the problem has been acknowledged to exist and while a solution for the real issue (mothers desperate enough to abandon their children) is being looked for, no lives are lost.

The idea btw is nothing new. Orphanages, and also monasteries, all over the world have a history of offering a 'baby drawer' and a bell close to their front door.

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by zro 

Wait a minute.

Dumpster babies are so common in Germany that they need "post boxes" that you can deposit them in instead? Seriously, WTF?

Even if it's extremely rare, would you rather they just let the baby die?

[design219]

OK, nobody wants babies to die. It may be a great idea, but you've got to admit, it's funny.

[analogika]

Originally Posted by zro 

Wait a minute.

Dumpster babies are so common in Germany that they need "post boxes" that you can deposit them in instead? Seriously, WTF?

Actually, they're very rare.

However, in towns that have these contraptions, they're nonexistent.

That's entirely positive, and what little clamor there was over them has *long* since shut up.

[zro]

Originally Posted by Chuckit 

Even if it's extremely rare, would you rather they just let the baby die?

What the hell about my question would lead you to believe that would possibly be what I want?? What I want is for it to not happen at all, jackass.

[highstakes]

saw this on digg

[marden]

Ahhh! Man's ingenious methods of ridding ourselves of unwanted pregnancies.

Abortion & baby chutes.

Nancy Reagan had the right idea years ago when she advised, "Just Say No!"

But you bright guys and gals will no doubt set off in search of some more new methods of dealing with the "problem" which won't require any personal denial of sexual gratification.

[Mastrap]

Just say no isn't working. This is. Case closed, except in your personal dreamland.

[marden]

Originally Posted by Mastrap 

Just say no isn't working. This is. Case closed, except in your personal dreamland.

Oh, ye of little faith!

I remember when patriotism was common, two parent families the norm, smoking was cool, wife beating was a matter between a man and his wife, drunk driving was considered merely a naughty-naughty and gay bashing was a sport.

Bottom line, attitudes do and can change with the right advertising-PR-Media campaigns.

[Mastrap]

I don't remember any time, ever, when people didn't have irresponsible sex.

[marden]

Originally Posted by Mastrap 

I don't remember any time, ever, when people didn't have irresponsible sex.

We can't eliminate any popular human behavior, but we can make it less popular by affecting people's attitudes.

People still smoke and drink/drive and all those things I mentioned but those activities are less accepted by society now.

There was a time when "good girls" waited until marriage, when unwed motherhood was a shame and there was less VD and fewer abortions.

If people insisted on indulging their insatiably irresponsible lustiness they knew they did so at the risk of social ostracism. Kinda like the way behavior is modulated here in the lounge. When someone goes against the generally accepted rules of behavior they gain a bad 'reputation' and are treated with disdain or are shunned.

People generally want to be accepted by a group and will conform to the group's rules and morality so they can be accepted. That explains much of the anti-war sentiment in this country and it also explains how extremist and anti-US forces have been able to influence our media to influence us.

It was how all those things I mentioned before were changed.

And it will be how any future widespread societal changes might be brought about.

[Dakar²]

Am I the only person who thought of the Will Farrell sketch from SNL after reading the thread title?

[Eug]

What do these chutes look like? Isn't a baby sliding down a chute potentially dangerous?

[Dakar²]

Not compared to the alternative.

[Eug]

Originally Posted by Dakar² 

Not compared to the alternative.

My point was can't they just have a monitored cupboard or something like that?

There was something like that at the local convent. It was a revolving shelf. (I used to deliver the newspaper there as a kid, and the space was big enough for a baby basket.)

[Gossamer]

Originally Posted by Dakar² 

Am I the only person who thought of the Will Farrell sketch from SNL after reading the thread title?

Ah...that one always cracks me up. He lost his rolex...

[PER3]

Originally Posted by marden 

We can't eliminate any popular human behavior, but we can make it less popular by affecting people's attitudes.

People still smoke and drink/drive and all those things I mentioned but those activities are less accepted by society now.

There was a time when "good girls" waited until marriage, when unwed motherhood was a shame and there was less VD and fewer abortions.

If people insisted on indulging their insatiably irresponsible lustiness they knew they did so at the risk of social ostracism. Kinda like the way behavior is modulated here in the lounge. When someone goes against the generally accepted rules of behavior they gain a bad 'reputation' and are treated with disdain or are shunned.

People generally want to be accepted by a group and will conform to the group's rules and morality so they can be accepted. That explains much of the anti-war sentiment in this country and it also explains how extremist and anti-US forces have been able to influence our media to influence us.

It was how all those things I mentioned before were changed.

And it will be how any future widespread societal changes might be brought about.

Marden,

Will it be you saying:

"I for one, welcome our new Sharia laws"?

[Dakar²]

Originally Posted by Eug 

My point was can't they just have a monitored cupboard or something like that?

That doesn't sound like nearly as fun a ride.

[marden]

Originally Posted by PER3 

Marden,

Will it be you saying:

"I for one, welcome our new Sharia laws"?

Don't you know that the War on Terror is fighting for you to lead the degenerate lives you choose to lead?

The conservatives have a less threatening lifestyle from the Muslim's point of view.

We don't want overt and audacious sexiness in the media. We want modesty.
We don't want recreational drugs. We just say no.
We don't want unwed motherhood. We want sex only for married couples.
We don't want abortions. We want responsible parenting.
We don't want gay marriage. We want gays to keep their sexuality to themselves.

A great deal of the extremist's ammo to recruit new suicide bombers comes from the liberal way of life we are importing and the childish demands that we are conveying to the Muslim world and showing them what LIBERAL VALUES are all about with our movies (liberal) and music (liberal) and msm (liberal). It is scaring the crap out of the average proper mainstream muslim and they are fighting it the only way they know how.

But in spite of all that I am committed to defend your right to be degenerates, but your side is stupidly trying to prevent our fighting back against the forces that would put an end to your fun and games in a serious manner.

So go ahead and oppose the war and resist all conservative measures to try to tone down your excesses.

We'll see who is the first to say, "oh my God we should have listened to the conservatives...they were right all along" and we'll see who is the first to "welcome our new Sharia laws."

The WoT is being fought to defend LIBERAL values more than conservative values. ****ing dummies.

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by marden 

Don't you know that the War on Terror is fighting for you to lead the degenerate lives you choose to lead?

The conservatives have a less threatening lifestyle from the Muslim's point of view.

We don't want overt and audacious sexiness in the media. We want modesty.
We don't want recreational drugs. We just say no.
We don't want unwed motherhood. We want sex only for married couples.
We don't want abortions. We want responsible parenting.
We don't want gay marriage. We want gays to keep their sexuality to themselves.

You do want Christianity to have predominance over Islam, which is just as bad. Also, while Christians don't want what they consider to be "overt and audacious sexiness," even the usual conservative Christian ideals would be considered slutty by conservative Muslims' standards ("What?! Your dress only goes down to your knees?! And you don't cover your face at all?!").

[Mastrap]

We want the right to choose.

[marden]

Originally Posted by Chuckit 

You do want Christianity to have predominance over Islam, which is just as bad. Also, while Christians don't want what they consider to be "overt and audacious sexiness," even the usual conservative Christian ideals would be considered slutty by conservative Muslims' standards ("What?! Your dress only goes down to your knees?! And you don't cover your face at all?!").

The average Muslim isn't so riled up by the West's 'Christianity' that they would martyr themselves.
We aren't pushing for Christian predominance over Islam.
And if the overt sexiness makes ME simmer imagine how offensive that and Planned Parenthood and talk and actions of bitches and ho's must be!

I think burqas are kind of alluring as long as there is truth in advertising...I need to see the goods before committing to marriage.

[marden]

Originally Posted by Mastrap 

We want the right to choose.

Boyo, that's what the war is about! Duh!!!!

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by PER3 

Marden,

Will it be you saying:

"I for one, welcome our new Sharia laws"?

Wow what a exaggeration.

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by marden 

The average Muslim isn't so riled up by the West's 'Christianity' that they would martyr themselves.
We aren't pushing for Christian predominance over Islam.
And if the overt sexiness makes ME simmer imagine how offensive that and Planned Parenthood and talk and actions of bitches and ho's must be!

I think burqas are kind of alluring as long as there is truth in advertising...I need to see the goods before committing to marriage.

Do you really think rap music makes people want to kill us? It sucks, but it's not worth your life. It's our alliance with Israel and our other messing around in the area — things conservatives more than liberals tend to support — that really helps get the Middle East riled up against us. If we just joined them in opposing Israel, that would probably go a lot further to cool their hatred than stopping talking about "bitches" and "hoes."

[Monique]

That is what happens when you forced young girls to have babies, baby's chute.

[::maroma::]

Another thread demolished by marden.

Kudos.

[marden]

Originally Posted by Chuckit 

Do you really think rap music makes people want to kill us? It sucks, but it's not worth your life. It's our alliance with Israel and our other messing around in the area — things conservatives more than liberals tend to support — that really helps get the Middle East riled up against us. If we just joined them in opposing Israel, that would probably go a lot further to cool their hatred than stopping talking about "bitches" and "hoes."

Yes. Rap music makes Blacks want to kill us.

Israel is a matter of fundamental secular law vs. Sharia law issue. Secular law has to be supported.

In the old days it was ALWAYS the Caliph's mandate (mandatory) to increase Islamic territory. It was like the sixth pillar of Islam. However a caliph could decide, depending on his judgment and on circumstances, if, when or how the Islamic state should advance into dar el Harb.

The matter of Israel is just where the two sides refuse to or feel themselves unable to concede.

There has been a contest over Israel from the time of Israel's statehood in 1948 but the rise in Islamic aggression and terrorism didn't arise until much later. The Islamic world's volatility might be temporarily appeased by a grand concession on Israel ultimately it would only prompt more demands for greater concessions. That's the way it works, unfortunately.

But the West's going back to respecting our OWN religious values would be a more important and long term way of convincing the average Muslim that they needn't worry about the threat of America.

[marden]

Originally Posted by ::maroma:: 

Another thread demolished by marden.

Kudos.

Yeah, like the maternity staff finding a big, drunk, smoking baby doesn't bear directly on my commentary?

[JoshuaZ]

Originally Posted by marden 

We can't eliminate any popular human behavior, but we can make it less popular by affecting people's attitudes.

People still smoke and drink/drive and all those things I mentioned but those activities are less accepted by society now.

There was a time when "good girls" waited until marriage, when unwed motherhood was a shame and there was less VD and fewer abortions.

If people insisted on indulging their insatiably irresponsible lustiness they knew they did so at the risk of social ostracism. Kinda like the way behavior is modulated here in the lounge. When someone goes against the generally accepted rules of behavior they gain a bad 'reputation' and are treated with disdain or are shunned.

People generally want to be accepted by a group and will conform to the group's rules and morality so they can be accepted. That explains much of the anti-war sentiment in this country and it also explains how extremist and anti-US forces have been able to influence our media to influence us.

It was how all those things I mentioned before were changed.

And it will be how any future widespread societal changes might be brought about.

When was this "time" you speak of? The 1950's America? The Victorian days? Ideas on sex change from culture to culture and time to time. Yes, even in America. I'd even argue that Victorian ideals of repressing everything had the exact counter effect. Booms in sex toys and pornography happened during the "pure" Victorian times. You have to admire a time period where the cause of every illness could be traced back to masturbation. (Which is why circumcision was so highly advocated and adopted in the US, and for some reason is still the norm.)

[marden]

Originally Posted by JoshuaZ 

When was this "time" you speak of? The 1950's America? The Victorian days? Ideas on sex change from culture to culture and time to time. Yes, even in America. I'd even argue that Victorian ideals of repressing everything had the exact counter effect. Booms in sex toys and pornography happened during the "pure" Victorian times. You have to admire a time period where the cause of every illness could be traced back to masturbation. (Which is why circumcision was so highly advocated and adopted in the US, and for some reason is still the norm.)

Why is it that the response to anyone talking about more responsible social attitudes and behavior so often seems to be ridiculous hyperbole? There was never a time when every malady was said to have been brought on by masturbation. (Although if someone reads a book or two or a dozen which conveys that idea -- though not as a fact -- I can see how some highly hormonal and impressionable folks might get that inaccurate idea.)

Progressive attitudes had already been enacted in the mid-60's and had 'bitch-slapped' America by the 1970's but America didn't start reeling until later. The first stanza of Steely Dan's "Reelin' in the Years" (circa 1973 or 1974) could be used as a metaphor to describe the social change taking place in America, all thanks to progressivism.

Your everlasting summer
You can see it fading fast
So you grab a piece of something
That you think is gonna last
You wouldnt know a diamond
If you held it in your hand
The things you think are precious
I cant understand

The late 1960's & early 1970's "counter-culture" (think about what that title means) had taken root and life for many took on the quality of one endlessly long and glorious summer in that the old traditional values were in the process of being replaced by progressive ideals. However, free love (sex), casual drug use, the welfare state, unwed pregnancy without stigma, legalized abortion etc. WAS NOT yet the norm in America. Woodstock would not have been AS BIG a story if sex, drugs and rock n roll (and all that goes with it) had been commonplace. The majority of America WASN'T yet the way you'd like to imagine it.

But after the thrill had worn off and the counter culture had succeeded in bring the Vietnam War to a disgraceful end and the college aged generation had awakened from the sex, drugs and rock & roll party of the previous few years they were ready to step off the college campuses and into a new progressive America in ALL respects.

Just a generation ago we elected and were being led by Jimmy Carter.

But now things have changed and we as a society understand that the progressive attitudes from back then which still live on in the hearts, minds, lungs and loins of some today's young hedonists are just not good for America or any society and can only be tolerated in short spurts and infrequent periods if a society is to remain healthy and whole.

It's like too much of anything is not good.

But rest easy. When the attitude modification starts to take effect it won't be because this government imposes it.

[JoshuaZ]

Originally Posted by marden 

Why is it that the response to anyone talking about more responsible social attitudes and behavior so often seems to be ridiculous hyperbole? There was never a time when every malady was said to have been brought on by masturbation. (Although if someone reads a book or two or a dozen which conveys that idea -- though not as a fact -- I can see how some highly hormonal and impressionable folks might get that inaccurate idea.)

It was presented as fact. One of my roomies in college was a nursing major (yes, a male nurse), and he collected old medical text books. His oldest was from 1890. Any of the books between 1890-1930 listed "self-abuse" as a cause for just about any major illness. In one book there was half a page devoted a list of the horrors that might befall young men if they were caught self abusing.

Heres a bit of a history lesson for you in case you wish to view some real source material on the subject. Note how there wasn't a real medical study on the subject until 1966.

Self-abuse [masturbation]

And heres some fun medical reasons as to how circumcision can prevent masturbation.

Motivations for "medical" circumcision

(And just between you and me, you come off as a rather hostile and mean poster most of the time.)

[marden]

Originally Posted by JoshuaZ 

It was presented as fact. One of my roomies in college was a nursing major (yes, a male nurse), and he collected old medical text books. His oldest was from 1890. Any of the books between 1890-1930 listed "self-abuse" as a cause for just about any major illness. In one book there was half a page devoted a list of the horrors that might befall young men if they were caught self abusing.

Heres a bit of a history lesson for you in case you wish to view some real source material on the subject. Note how there wasn't a real medical study on the subject until 1966.

Self-abuse [masturbation]

(And just between you and me, you come off as a rather hostile and mean poster most of the time.)

I'll wait to address your post when I'm not feeling so mean and hostile.

Ok. I think your frame of reference is clouded by your emotions.

Try this. Do a search of the threads I have started and you will see a full array of emotions and more often I am light hearted and helpful than mean or hostile. Why are you unable to see me objectively? Are you unconsciously drawn to my darkness?

[JoshuaZ]

Righhhtttt.... because posting a link that contains primary evidence is an overly hostile measure.

And is it me... or does the lounge seem to contain a whole lot of threads posted by you... which now seem locked. Just an unemotional observation.

[marden]

Originally Posted by JoshuaZ 

Righhhtttt.... because posting a link that contains primary evidence is an overly hostile measure.

And is it me... or does the lounge seem to contain a whole lot of threads posted by you... which now seem locked. Just an unemotional observation.

And what does that imply to you?

[moonmonkey]

Originally Posted by zro 

What the hell about my question would lead you to believe that would possibly be what I want?? What I want is for it to not happen at all, jackass.

Baby murderer. chill out i'm only joking.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Monique 

That is what happens when you forced young girls to have babies, baby's chute.

Accidents happen Monique. But the problem isn't "forcing" girls to have babies.

Unless they were raped, no one FORCED the girl to have sex. Take responsibilities for your actions.

I feel SORRY for people who's parents didn't teach them that. That they think they can just go the "easy way out" and not take responsibilities.

THAT is what is wrong with society. Everyone wants to blame everyone else.

"It's not my fault! He MADE ME HAVE THE BABY!"


No wait, I forgot, It's the Right Wing men you have sex with that don't use protection. It's THEIR FAULT!11