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maccrack · Mar 27, 2007, 01:14 PM

Can anyone send me there HS research paper as something to look at and get some ideas from! It would be very helpful!

Thanks!

centerchannel68 · Mar 27, 2007, 01:20 PM

Sure.

http://chicane.myftp.org/SUVresearchpaper.pdf

besson3c · Mar 27, 2007, 01:25 PM

It might help if you indicated what sorts of subject matter would make for acceptable research as per the requirements of this assignment?

maccrack · Mar 27, 2007, 01:27 PM

The class is Global Studies so child soldiers ETC.

besson3c · Mar 27, 2007, 01:35 PM

Well, since this is in the context of your education, first of all:

Can anyone send me there HS research paper as something to look at and get some ideas from! It would be very helpful!

This should read:

Can anyone send me their HS research paper? This would be very helpful

Note the question mark and the correct "their".

Some punctuation here might help:

The class is Global Studies so child soldiers ETC.

The class is Global Studies, so child soldiers, etc. would work

Maybe this would work better if you gave us a clue as to what sorts of subjects you are interested in? This way, we can give you some ideas as to what you might want to research within this selected area.

Do you understand what plagiarism is? You know not to lift things that you haven't written yourself at verbatim without proper attribution, right? Were you planning on just taking somebody else's research paper, tweaking it, and calling it yours? Not only is this plagiarism, but this would also be cheating.

BRussell · Mar 27, 2007, 01:41 PM

maccrack I've emailed a link to this thread to your teacher.

maccrack · Mar 27, 2007, 01:43 PM

who is my teacher...?

andi*pandi · Mar 27, 2007, 01:57 PM

ip>schools in that area>social studies teachers.

maccrack · Mar 27, 2007, 02:01 PM

ehh she wont do anything..

Doofy · Mar 27, 2007, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by centerchannel68

Sure.

http://chicane.myftp.org/SUVresearchpaper.pdf

He said 10th grade, not 5th.

Jawbone54 · Mar 27, 2007, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by maccrack

Can anyone send me there HS research paper as something to look at and get some ideas from! It would be very helpful!

Thanks!

Orrrrrrrrrrr...steal and use as your own?

My senior research paper was on the history and culture of rock music. I have it in storage, and you're not getting it.

Doofy · Mar 27, 2007, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by Jawbone54

My senior research paper was on the history and culture of rock music. I have it in storage, and you're not getting it.

Oooo oooo oooo. Can I have it?

Jawbone54 · Mar 27, 2007, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by Doofy

Oooo oooo oooo. Can I have it?

Sooooo...you can publish it under your own name in NME?

YOU NEITHER, UNCLE DOOF!

Doofy · Mar 27, 2007, 04:29 PM

Gossamer · Mar 27, 2007, 04:59 PM

Did you just want to see if you were mentioned?

brassplayersrock² · Mar 27, 2007, 05:59 PM

my senior paper was about the evolution of movies/the introduction of soundtracks. very fun paper

alex

ghporter · Mar 27, 2007, 08:01 PM

Plagiarism WILL get you into trouble. In 10 grade it'll get you a failing grade. In college it'll get you expelled (and goodbye to thousands of dollars in tuition and fees, too).

A "basic guide to writing a research paper" is something you could just search for. In fact "basic research paper" gets "about 108,000,000" hits on Google. Then do your own research (there are helpful hints for finding good research sources in those Google hits too) and write your own paper.

The last "creative" paper I wrote was for a computer science course. I wrote about "intelligent computers in science fiction." It was fun (all my sources were books on my shelves) and since I made a point using these sources, I got a very nice grade. You try differentiating between HAL 9000 and The Terminator...

besson3c · Mar 27, 2007, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by ghporter

You try differentiating between HAL 9000 and The Terminator...

Easy, one is the governor of California, the other will not leave his Hollywood home to speak to the media...

d4nth3m4n · Mar 27, 2007, 08:43 PM

here you go-

here's another one-

on second thought, don't do this.

Eriamjh · Mar 27, 2007, 09:19 PM

That paper was graded by a 7th grader (no pun intended).

One page 4 is says, "Page is to big".

That's too big.

Plus, the handwriting is terrible. I give the teacher a D-.

macforray · Mar 27, 2007, 10:22 PM

Hey kid! I did my 10th grade final paper 35 years ago. You may be amazed at this but I did it ALL BY MYSELF. Got a good grade and scored a 99 (one spelling error) on the NYS Social Studies Regents exam.

Try spending more time working on your project and less time on this forum. It will be good for you...... I promise.

bstone · Mar 27, 2007, 11:51 PM

Rob,

I read your paper and I agree for the most part. But then I watched this and it changed my mind:
Break.com - Funny Pics, Hot Chicks, & Cool Flicks

centerchannel68 · Mar 28, 2007, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by Eriamjh

That paper was graded by a 7th grader (no pun intended).

One page 4 is says, "Page is to big".

That's too big.

Plus, the handwriting is terrible. I give the teacher a D-.

I was thinking the same thing. I'm pretty sure if I shoved a pencil in my ass I'd have better handwritin... er... buttwriting? Whatever.

centerchannel68 · Mar 28, 2007, 12:10 AM

Originally Posted by bstone

Rob,

I read your paper and I agree for the most part. But then I watched this and it changed my mind:
Break.com - Funny Pics, Hot Chicks, & Cool Flicks

Apart from the rear one, it really doesn't look too bad. They crumpled and dispersed the energy, slowing the acceleration and shocks to the passenger compartment. If those were all trucks, the trucks wouldn't be damaged as much, but there would be much higher shock forces in the passenger compartments, and you'd suffer more neck injuries/brain injuries than a car.

Big Mac · Mar 28, 2007, 12:11 AM

This thread made me smirk.

bstone · Mar 28, 2007, 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by centerchannel68

Apart from the rear one, it really doesn't look too bad. They crumpled and dispersed the energy, slowing the acceleration and shocks to the passenger compartment. If those were all trucks, the trucks wouldn't be damaged as much, but there would be much higher shock forces in the passenger compartments, and you'd suffer more neck injuries/brain injuries than a car.

I think what I mean to say it, I would much rather be in the big truck than in the tin can car cause while the cars were getting smashed and disintegrated the big truck remained relatively intact.

I prefer to remain intact.

Gossamer · Mar 28, 2007, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by centerchannel68

Apart from the rear one, it really doesn't look too bad. They crumpled and dispersed the energy, slowing the acceleration and shocks to the passenger compartment. If those were all trucks, the trucks wouldn't be damaged as much, but there would be much higher shock forces in the passenger compartments, and you'd suffer more neck injuries/brain injuries than a car.

Actually the rear TWO cars are completely gone.

Doofy · Mar 28, 2007, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by Gossamer

Actually the rear TWO cars are completely gone.

I guess someone was reading the description which said there were five compacts, when in fact there were six.

Love the third comment down:

YOU AMERICANS THINK YOUR SO COOL WITH YOUR BIG CARS:
well i can tell you i was sitting in that first car (citreon 2cv) when the truck hit and i ecaped with a bruised thumb..!!! , i doubt i would have been as fortunate if i was in one of your silly caddy pimp mobiles...!

bstone · Mar 28, 2007, 11:46 AM

When everyone else on the road is driving a tank there really is only one thing to do- also get a tank.

This is why I love my 93 Ford Explorer. Even tho I only drive it about once every two weeks (and then to go to the Co-Op for food shopping which is only a half mile away) I feel safe in my tank.

besson3c · Mar 28, 2007, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by centerchannel68

I was thinking the same thing. I'm pretty sure if I shoved a pencil in my ass I'd have better handwritin... er... buttwriting? Whatever.

That would be an interesting scientific test. Have you thought about trying this?

besson3c · Mar 28, 2007, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by bstone

When everyone else on the road is driving a tank there really is only one thing to do- also get a tank.

Why? Should we also wear bulletproof vests all the time since so many people own guns?

I think Michael Moore is right, we really are a country that has been pumped full of fear.

G4ME · Mar 28, 2007, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by besson3c

Why? Should we also wear bulletproof vests all the time since so many people own guns?

you don't?

god you got big ballz

bstone · Mar 28, 2007, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by besson3c

Why? Should we also wear bulletproof vests all the time since so many people own guns?

I think Michael Moore is right, we really are a country that has been pumped full of fear.

Oddly enough, when I was volunteering in the Mississippi Gulf Coast after Katrina this guy gave me a bullet proof vest. It even has these slots for metal sheets. So, yes, I wear it now. And a riot helmet.

besson3c · Mar 28, 2007, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by bstone

Oddly enough, when I was volunteering in the Mississippi Gulf Coast after Katrina this guy gave me a bullet proof vest. It even has these slots for metal sheets. So, yes, I wear it now. And a riot helmet.

How often do you wear this gear?

bstone · Mar 28, 2007, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by besson3c

How often do you wear this gear?

Once every two weeks, when I get into my 93 Ford Explorer Tank. I slip into my bullet proof vest and riot helmet and drive the 1/2 mile to the hippy co-op where I do all my food shopping. I buy only organic veggies and pasta, as well as the other things I need. I am a co-owner of the co-op and I like to be involved in supporting it. I take off these protective items before I walk in, just so I dont freak people out. I make sure to wear an old Grateful Dead t-shirt just to blend in.

ghporter · Mar 28, 2007, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by centerchannel68

I was thinking the same thing. I'm pretty sure if I shoved a pencil in my ass I'd have better handwritin... er... buttwriting? Whatever.

Grading a bunch of papers that require a bunch of notes is challenging work, and teachers get tired. Some of my professors have pretty lousy handwriting and they are certainly NOT 7th graders! I'm thinking that whoever graded this stuff did so LATE and after a lot of other papers. And the handwriting, spelling and wording are MUCH better than that in the paper.

Doofy · Mar 28, 2007, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by besson3c

Why? Should we also wear bulletproof vests all the time since so many people own guns?

Interestingly enough, if you carry a bulletproof vest in the back of your Jeep, it never gets broken into (at least here in Blighty, where a vest means you're either SO19 or a complete nutjob). Crim figures that it's too much hot water for him to bother, so he doesn't.

besson3c · Mar 28, 2007, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by ghporter

Grading a bunch of papers that require a bunch of notes is challenging work, and teachers get tired. Some of my professors have pretty lousy handwriting and they are certainly NOT 7th graders! I'm thinking that whoever graded this stuff did so LATE and after a lot of other papers. And the handwriting, spelling and wording are MUCH better than that in the paper.

Sorry, I don't care if it is 8:00 PM or 4:00 AM, any English teacher should know the difference between to and too - period.

Mithras · Mar 28, 2007, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by Doofy

Interestingly enough, if you carry a bulletproof vest in the back of your Jeep, it never gets broken into (at least here in Blighty, where a vest means you're either SO19 or a complete nutjob). Crim figures that it's too much hot water for him to bother, so he doesn't.

Interesting. I get much the same effect from a couple of buckets of feces and a cross made out of squirrel bones.

brapper · Mar 28, 2007, 06:30 PM

how much do you make in allowance? I'll write you a dandy paper.

Railroader · Mar 28, 2007, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by Doofy

Interestingly enough, if you carry a bulletproof vest in the back of your Jeep, it never gets broken into (at least here in Blighty, where a vest means you're either SO19 or a complete nutjob). Crim figures that it's too much hot water for him to bother, so he doesn't.

Put two children's booster seats in a 2-door Cavalier.

I don't even know if the locks work as I haven't used them yet.

ghporter · Mar 28, 2007, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by besson3c

Sorry, I don't care if it is 8:00 PM or 4:00 AM, any English teacher should know the difference between to and too - period.

I missed that one. That is indeed one of the issues in poor writing that bugs me a lot.

centerchannel68 · Mar 28, 2007, 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by bstone

I think what I mean to say it, I would much rather be in the big truck than in the tin can car cause while the cars were getting smashed and disintegrated the big truck remained relatively intact.

I prefer to remain intact.

Pop quiz: Do most car accidents involve semis running into parked vehicles at high speeds? Or do they involve cars bumping into each other, rear ending each other, and smacking each other?

Stiff frames TAKE lives, not save them, which is one of the reasons SUVs and Trucks have a much higher deathrate than passenger cars.

brokenjago · Mar 29, 2007, 03:22 AM

o rly.

bstone · Mar 29, 2007, 03:27 AM

Originally Posted by centerchannel68

Pop quiz: Do most car accidents involve semis running into parked vehicles at high speeds? Or do they involve cars bumping into each other, rear ending each other, and smacking each other?

Stiff frames TAKE lives, not save them, which is one of the reasons SUVs and Trucks have a much higher deathrate than passenger cars.

While the studies probably disagree with me on this, my experience as an EMT on an ambulance leads me to believe that people in cars with crumple zones die much more often than people in sturdy vehicles. Crumple zones means that the car crushes you and you end up being mangled. It's not a pretty scene, I assure you. Not pretty at all. The person in the big SUV usually is standing on the side of the highway. Looking. And glad he wasn't in the crumple zone car.

CharlesS · Mar 29, 2007, 03:39 AM

Originally Posted by besson3c

Well, since this is in the context of your education, first of all:

an anyone send me there HS research paper as something to look at and get some ideas from! It would be very helpful!

This should read:

Can anyone send me their HS research paper? This would be very helpful

Note the question mark and the correct "their".

Actually, that should be "his or her" rather than "their", since "their" is plural while "anyone" is singular.

Gossamer · Mar 29, 2007, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by bstone

While the studies probably disagree with me on this, my experience as an EMT on an ambulance leads me to believe that people in cars with crumple zones die much more often than people in sturdy vehicles. Crumple zones means that the car crushes you and you end up being mangled. It's not a pretty scene, I assure you. Not pretty at all. The person in the big SUV usually is standing on the side of the highway. Looking. And glad he wasn't in the crumple zone car.

No, crumple zones mean certain areas of the car like the trunk and the engine compartment are designed to crumple leaving the passenger compartment untouched. With enough force, of course, the passenger compartment is in trouble though.

besson3c · Mar 29, 2007, 09:06 AM

And "their" agrees with "anyone", which also implies more than one person.

Dakar² · Mar 29, 2007, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by Gossamer

No, crumple zones mean certain areas of the car like the trunk and the engine compartment are designed to crumple leaving the passenger compartment untouched. With enough force, of course, the passenger compartment is in trouble though.

Particularly if a tank of an SUV just slammed into you.

centerchannel68 · Mar 29, 2007, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by bstone

While the studies probably disagree with me on this, my experience as an EMT on an ambulance leads me to believe that people in cars with crumple zones die much more often than people in sturdy vehicles. Crumple zones means that the car crushes you and you end up being mangled. It's not a pretty scene, I assure you. Not pretty at all. The person in the big SUV usually is standing on the side of the highway. Looking. And glad he wasn't in the crumple zone car.

I think you're misunderstanding what a crumple zone is. A crumple 'zone' is an area of hte car that crumples, which disperses energy, and lessens shocks and jolts to the passenger compartment. A safe car has a very RIGID passenger cell, that keeps things from entering it or distorting it, but the sections of the car beyond this, like hte engine compartment and trunk, are designed to crumple and slow down the impact, while keeping the passenger cell very safe, without intrusions. Here's a good example, the stiffness of a taurus vs a ford ranger, both of the front subframe, or front section of the frame:

Note how stiff the ranger is. This means you're more deadly to anybody else on the road, and you're endangering yourself.

And yes, statistics would disagree with you completley. LTV= light truck or SUV

Furthermore, any benefit that you still believe in from having a stiff frame (which is against the real world and statistics) is offset by this:

and this: