[centerchannel68]

A friend of mine built some pretty insane speakers. He's an electrical engineer, and they cost him about a grand to build, so needless to say they'll blow away $3,000+ dollar speakers. Heh. Anyway, he currently has a shitty amp, and was asking me about really potent vintage recievers, so I sent him a little email with a few choice links. I thought I'd post it here just because all the links are sweet:

Sure thang:

http://www.silverpioneer.netfirms.com/SX-1250.htm

That bad mama jama is 180 watts per channel.... but then.... there is this one.... the biggest, baddest one they EVER made, EVER:

http://www.silverpioneer.netfirms.com/sx-1980.htm

Like...woah.

And above that... there's a sansui, with 300 watts per channel.

http://www.classicaudio.com/value/san/G33K.html

CRRAAAZZZYYYYYYY.

But yet... there must be one ring to rule them all, and as far as I can tell, even though Technics didn't make a ton of super high power receivers, they decided to go balls out and layeth the smacketh down, with a whopping 330 watts per channel!

http://www.thevintageknob.org/THEVAU...00/SA1000.html

That thing is crazy. I'd love to have one of those things! It weighs 87lbs! AHhahahaha.

[brassplayersrock²]

thought this was gunna be about football. soooooooooooooooooo disappointed!


alex

[G4ME]

once you are up in that power range i think it makes better sense to go for a straight out power amp, and a decent pre amp.

Its not a real high power amp unless it requires three phase

http://www.crownaudio.com/pdf/legacy/k10684.pdf

you can weld 1/4 steel with that

[Randman]

[brassplayersrock²]

THANK YOU!

alex

[Mrjinglesusa]

Originally Posted by centerchannel68 

A friend of mine built some pretty insane speakers. He's an electrical engineer, and they cost him about a grand to build, so needless to say they'll blow away $3,000+ dollar speakers.

Why is it that you think that anything you or your friends build for cheap is better than things professionals build that are more expensive? Do you have some comparative studies to support this? I'd like to see you compare your home-built sub to a $2,000 sub and your friends home-built speakers to some $3,000 speakers. Scientific comparisions. You make a statement of fact "...needles to say they'll blow away $3,000+ dollar speakers." Since you like facts so much, do you have any to back that statement up? If not, I think my $300 speakers will blow away your friend's $1,000 speakers.

BTW, you don't need to say "dollar" after $3,000+. The "$" implies that it's a monetary value.

[memento]

Originally Posted by centerchannel68 

A friend of mine built some pretty insane speakers. He's an electrical engineer, and they cost him about a grand to build, so needless to say they'll blow away $3,000+ dollar speakers. Heh.

I'm sure it sounds good, but I seriously doubt that you can assume it blows away any $3000+ speaker, just because he's an engineer and he built it himself for $1000.

Sounds like he should be building himself a big, bad monoblock tube amp for $536 that'll blow this away:

[G4ME]

Originally Posted by memento 

I'm sure it sounds good, but I seriously doubt that you can assume it blows away any $3000+ speaker, just because he's an engineer and he built it himself for $1000.

Sounds like he should be building himself a big, bad monoblock tube amp for $536 that'll blow this away:

but teh tubes suxors!!!!

[Todd Madson]

Actually, for audio, no tubes provide a pleasant sound due to the emphasis on the even
order harmonics frequencies. Ask a musician if they still use tube amps and they'll go on
for days about how tube amplifiers sound better, have touch sensitive dynamics, etc.

[analogika]

Tubes distort FAR sooner than transistors do - they just happen to do so in a manner that is very pleasing to the ear.

I.e. they are not nearly as faithful in reproduction, but they break the signal in an enjoyable way. They will always colour the signal.

A musician's tube or transistor amp is an integral part of how his instrument sounds. Signal fidelity is not usually a criterion for a good instrument amp, nor is it even desirable.

Musicians use tubes to CREATE sound, not to reproduce it.

[centerchannel68]

Originally Posted by Mrjinglesusa 

Why is it that you think that anything you or your friends build for cheap is better than things professionals build that are more expensive? Do you have some comparative studies to support this? I'd like to see you compare your home-built sub to a $2,000 sub and your friends home-built speakers to some $3,000 speakers. Scientific comparisions. You make a statement of fact "...needles to say they'll blow away $3,000+ dollar speakers." Since you like facts so much, do you have any to back that statement up? If not, I think my $300 speakers will blow away your friend's $1,000 speakers.

BTW, you don't need to say "dollar" after $3,000+. The "$" implies that it's a monetary value.

My sub sucks. It isn't that big, or loud sounding. I just built it to fill in the gap of my speakers and bass shakers. I never claimed it was great, it was CHEAP! I built the whole thing for under $50. But yeah, his speakers are pretty insane. Engineer+someone who's obsessed with sound quality+built many many sets of speakers= he builds damn nice speakers. Better than I could do. Mine might look better though.

[centerchannel68]

Originally Posted by Todd Madson 

Actually, for audio, no tubes provide a pleasant sound due to the emphasis on the even
order harmonics frequencies. Ask a musician if they still use tube amps and they'll go on
for days about how tube amplifiers sound better, have touch sensitive dynamics, etc.

Only for musicians. For reproducing sound accurately, tubes are stupid.

[centerchannel68]

Originally Posted by analogika 

Tubes distort FAR sooner than transistors do - they just happen to do so in a manner that is very pleasing to the ear.

I.e. they are not nearly as faithful in reproduction, but they break the signal in an enjoyable way. They will always colour the signal.

A musician's tube or transistor amp is an integral part of how his instrument sounds. Signal fidelity is not usually a criterion for a good instrument amp, nor is it even desirable.

Musicians use tubes to CREATE sound, not to reproduce it.

Exactly.

[macroy]

We actually had one of these.... Didn't even realize it was anything out of the ordinary. I think it may still be at my mothers.. along with the tape deck and turntable.
Ah.. the good o'l days... remember playing Mr. Roboto and Safety dance over and over again.

Back then I think Nakamichi was the brand to own.... (then again, we're talking about a bunch of 6th graders).

[centerchannel68]

You had a blue question mark? Neat!

[analogika]

Blue question mark? He was one of the lucky ones! We 'ad nought but an ellipsis on t' ground when I was little!

[starman]

I own this:

Yamaha #17: CR-2020

[imitchellg5]

Originally Posted by Randman 

That's what I thought at first too

[nonhuman]

Originally Posted by centerchannel68 

My sub sucks. It isn't that big, or loud sounding. I just built it to fill in the gap of my speakers and bass shakers. I never claimed it was great, it was CHEAP! I built the whole thing for under $50. But yeah, his speakers are pretty insane. Engineer+someone who's obsessed with sound quality+built many many sets of speakers= he builds damn nice speakers. Better than I could do. Mine might look better though.

So... Why don't you two collaborate? He builds the speakers and you design the casing. Seems like that should get you the best of both worlds. Maybe even something worth selling.

[MrNo]

I wouldn't use this receiver to run 3000$ speakers.
Maybe something in the similar price range or more would be better.
Look into Quad or Naim