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olePigeon · Apr 12, 2007, 03:26 PM

When I was the CompUSA liquidation sale, they had Zunes and accessories for 30% off. The shelf was practically untoched. One lady was on her cell phone taking a picture of it, then talked on the phone, then asked the sales clerk if they still had any iPods left. Clerk said they were all out, then she left.

Even at 30% off they don't sell. If only I had a camera, I woulda taken a picture of it. The entire store was practically gutted, except for the Zune shelf.

centerchannel68 · Apr 12, 2007, 03:30 PM

ha. Funny.

mdc · Apr 12, 2007, 03:34 PM

I was in EB Games recently and someone walked in and asked what Zune accessories they had. It was the first (and only) time I've ever heard of anyone actually ask about, or even use, a Zune.
The guy behind the counter's response was kinda funny. Motioning to a row behind him he said, "Just the stuff you see here. Cases, headphones, covers, you know, all the general iPod stuff."

Jawbone54 · Apr 12, 2007, 03:50 PM

This makes me happy.

I tried using a friend's Zune. The whole thing just felt clunky to me. No wonder the thing is bombing; the iPod is 10x easier to use. And prettier.

macintologist · Apr 12, 2007, 03:58 PM

I'm sorry but without a click-wheel... how the f--- is it supposed to better than the iPod?

mac128k-1984 · Apr 12, 2007, 07:01 PM

Microsoft has a poor track record when it comes to hardware, lets hope their poor design continues. The only think with MS is their dogged determination. I'm not worried about v.1 of the zune, v.3 or v.4 probably, they have the deep pockets and the fear that apple will own the music business to keep them in the mp3 market.

Gossamer · Apr 12, 2007, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by mac128k-1984

Microsoft has a poor track record when it comes to hardware

Like what? Intellimouse is good. The Xbox was a smash hit, the 360 (minus the ones dying) seems to be doing fine.

kcmac · Apr 12, 2007, 09:32 PM

The XBox has never made a profit.

voodoo · Apr 12, 2007, 10:25 PM

I never bought an iPod because it is made by Apple. I bought it because it is the best. Still, I see people with strange mp3 players that are a mess to use and look like it too.

I don't know. There seems to be a certain amount of people who will settle for second best. I'm just not one of them.

V

macfantn · Apr 12, 2007, 10:41 PM

maybe they should rename it to iZune it may sell

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Gossamer · Apr 12, 2007, 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by kcmac

The XBox has never made a profit.

Uh...what does that have to do with the quality of its hardware? It's gained a huge following and broken into a previously entirely foreign market with great success.

Originally Posted by voodoo

I never bought an iPod because it is made by Apple. I bought it because it is the best. Still, I see people with strange mp3 players that are a mess to use and look like it too.

I don't know. There seems to be a certain amount of people who will settle for second best. I'm just not one of them.

V

BECAUSE I AM NOT AN APPLE FANBOY. AND DON'T ANY OF YOU DARE MISTAKE ME FOR ONE.

Chuckit · Apr 13, 2007, 12:29 AM

Originally Posted by Gossamer

Uh...what does that have to do with the quality of its hardware?

Was hardware quality the question here? I thought the question was just how their track record with hardware is.

Brien · Apr 13, 2007, 01:15 AM

Zunes suck, even in red and orange. (Orange, wtf?)

As an aside, went to the local liquidation for our CompUSA, and was told that things would bottom out after 40% then get sent somewhere else. That sucks, because even at 40% off Frys is still cheaper, and of course, the 'good' stuff, HDTVs, Blu-ray players, high end computers are stuck at 10-20% off, and the apple stuff is *gone*. (And I wonder why they're closing half their stores?)

mdc · Apr 13, 2007, 07:56 AM

Originally Posted by Brien

Zunes suck, even in red and orange. (Orange, wtf?)

I think the new orange shuffle is very cool and would've bought an orange nano over the green one if they were that colour.

Gossamer · Apr 13, 2007, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

Was hardware quality the question here? I thought the question was just how their track record with hardware is.

I guess I interpreted it to mean quality. I don't think Microsoft's done badly with hardware, but a lot of it (like selling the Xbox at a loss) is because they can afford to throw money at whatever they choose to.

macroy · Apr 13, 2007, 09:33 AM

I thought all console systems were sold at a "loss"? Or at least initially?

The razor & blade business model? I actually learned that on Macnn I believe.

chabig · Apr 13, 2007, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by Gossamer

Like what? Intellimouse is good. The Xbox was a smash hit, the 360 (minus the ones dying) seems to be doing fine.

If you think the Xbox is selling well, think again. The Wii is about to supplant it, and Microsoft is feeling the heat!

Dakarʒ · Apr 13, 2007, 10:34 AM

NexGen Wars - who will win? you decide.

About to supplant it?

chabig · Apr 13, 2007, 10:54 AM

Your point? Microsoft sold 8-9 million Xboxes in a year. Nintendo sold 6.5 million Wiis in 4 months. By the end of 2007, the Wii will likely pull ahead of Xbox in total sales.

Dakarʒ · Apr 13, 2007, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by chabig

Your point?

They got a while to go yet?

Originally Posted by chabig

Microsoft sold 8-9 million Xboxes in a year. Nintendo sold 6.5 million Wiis in 4 months. By the end of 2007, the Wii will likely pull ahead of Xbox in total sales.

Yes, it looks that way here too. However a lot can change in 8 months.

chabig · Apr 13, 2007, 11:50 AM

Here's an interesting blog post:

Wii to Outsell Xbox until 2008.

Dakarʒ · Apr 13, 2007, 11:52 AM

When is Mario galaxy due?

Gossamer · 12:11 PM

Oh no, please not another video game system thread.* It's my fault, I know...

Dakarʒ · Apr 13, 2007, 12:10 PM

I was thinking asterisk, but its almost too obvious.

maybe if it was grayed.

Gossamer · Apr 13, 2007, 12:12 PM

I think that's better. Oh, and what's with Demonhood editing all of your posts?

Dakarʒ · Apr 13, 2007, 12:13 PM

He's a prick who hates me.

(Yes that's perfect)

Gossamer · Apr 13, 2007, 12:18 PM

So you go 10,000 posts without an infraction, but now you're looking for one?

Dakarʒ · Apr 13, 2007, 12:20 PM

I'm betting on his sense of humor.

Edit: I'll probably remove it at the end of the day too, since its the weekend.

olePigeon · Apr 13, 2007, 12:41 PM

Can you guys stop derailing my threads?

Dakarʒ · Apr 13, 2007, 12:44 PM

Well if you're gonna be ungrateful about it.

Gossamer · Apr 13, 2007, 12:55 PM

Heck, I'd love it if people kept any of my threads going. ` Not that I ever make any.

Kevin Moon · Apr 13, 2007, 12:58 PM

seanc · Apr 13, 2007, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by Gossamer

I think that's better. Oh, and what's with Demonhood editing all of your posts?

Haha I see what Dakar has done. Genius.

Kevin Moon · Apr 13, 2007, 01:50 PM

I see some people here are a little slow

Dakarʒ · Apr 13, 2007, 01:52 PM

That's putting it lightly.

climber · Apr 13, 2007, 01:59 PM

Demonhood modified all your posts in the exact same minute, and before the original posts. Is this another WTC conspiracy in the making?

Dakarʒ · Apr 13, 2007, 02:00 PM

Let's go to the BBC tapes!

voodoo · Apr 13, 2007, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by Gossamer

BECAUSE I AM NOT AN APPLE FANBOY. AND DON'T ANY OF YOU DARE MISTAKE ME FOR ONE.

Hm well, you are probably a nerdyboi though. Don't be so hard on yourself with things you can't change.

V

mitchell_pgh · Apr 13, 2007, 02:56 PM

The problem is... Microsoft tried to copy the iPod, when in reality... they needed to copy the entire concept from the ground up. The iPod is NOTHING without iTunes. The iTunes -> Computer -> iPod relationship is paramount. Until Microsoft releases a REALLY cool iTunes contender for the Zune... Apple shouldn't be all that worried.

Gossamer · Apr 13, 2007, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by voodoo

Hm well, you are probably a nerdyboi though. Don't be so hard on yourself with things you can't change.

V

Not sure what you mean. I couldn't actually find a definition for "nerdyboi" on Google.

Dakarʒ · Apr 13, 2007, 04:36 PM

Must be his Catholic dialect.

voodoo · Apr 13, 2007, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by Gossamer

Not sure what you mean. I couldn't actually find a definition for "nerdyboi" on Google.

From the minimal creative thinking one would deduce you're of the Nintendo generation.

Originally Posted by Dakar

Must be his Catholic dialect.

At least it isn't Italian.

V

Gossamer · Apr 13, 2007, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by voodoo

From the minimal creative thinking one would deduce you're of the Nintendo generation.

I also couldn't find a consensus on the specific age range.

Angus_D · Apr 14, 2007, 04:08 AM

Originally Posted by macroy

I thought all console systems were sold at a "loss"? Or at least initially?

The razor & blade business model? I actually learned that on Macnn I believe.

Yeah, but I think the point is that the razors weren't successful enough to sell enough blades. And AFAIK Nintendo's consoles are sold at a profit.

analogika · Apr 14, 2007, 06:04 AM

Originally Posted by voodoo

From the minimal creative thinking one would deduce you're of the Nintendo generation.

At least it isn't Italian.

I'm not sure I prefer Viking arrogance over Prussian patronizing.

voodoo · Apr 14, 2007, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by analogika

I'm not sure I prefer Viking arrogance over Prussian patronizing.

But we're so good at it..

V

Dakarʒ · Apr 14, 2007, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by voodoo

At least it isn't Italian.

V

You're such a good Christian.

Dakarʒ · Apr 14, 2007, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by voodoo

From the minimal creative thinking one would deduce you're of the Nintendo generation.

That's quite a daring guess to make on a forum mainly filled with 20 and 30 year olds.

Edit: Twice as daring since his age is in his profile.

wolfen · Apr 14, 2007, 03:54 PM

What's a Zune?

Chuckit · Apr 14, 2007, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by Dakarʒ

That's quite a daring guess to make on a forum mainly filled with 20 and 30 year olds.

Edit: Twice as daring since his age is in his profile.

I predict that somebody in this thread watched Transformers when they were young!