[Jumbonium2007]

So Im wondering how many trek fans there are on here.. I for one enjoy it and was an avid watcher of the fan series Star Trek Hidden frontier when I stumbled acrossed this new film that comes out today.. Star trek of Gods and Men and was thrilled to see some of the original actors involved..

[imitchellg5]

This is so hilarious.

[Jumbonium2007]

Originally Posted by imitchellg5 

This is so hilarious.

Why is this hilarious imitchell its a plain straight to the point poll asking a simple question who likes star trek

[imitchellg5]

No, I was talking about you. You're funny. Don't worry about it. And I voted too. I want to know who has the uniforms?

[Jumbonium2007]

Id like to know that too.. I think someone needs to come out and share.. I wonder if his girlfriend beams him up every night

[Ghoser777]

Sex Trek - The Next Penetration
To Boldly Go Down on A Man I've Never Gone Down on Before
You know what they say about men with big ears... they've got big ear muffs!

[Langdon]

the line between the last 3 choices is not very clear it seems like they overlap. And there is no choice of indifference to the show.

[mac128k-1984]

I like Star Trek,
I enjoyed TOS, TNG. DS9 was a bore, Voyager with a crying captain was aweful and enterprise had so much potential but withered on the vine. Lack of depth seemed to doom this series. How many of the episodes were involving time travel?

[nredman]

doctor who > star trek

[red rocket]

I like Star Trek.

Really liked TNG, liked DS9 even more (Season 3 and later), Voyager after Seven joined.

TOS I thought was pretty stupid, and Enterprise was utter rubbish, imo.

Got a non-working TNG communicator, a TNG memorial badge, and some Starfleet Medical scrubs.

[Mastrap]

Originally Posted by red rocket 

TGot a non-working TNG communicato

No ****.

[centerchannel68]

I feel about the same as I do about World of Warcraft.

[ghporter]

The poll is missing some important options. Like those of us who enjoy the series, watch it when we can, but have not converted to the "Trekkie religion." I used to frequent SF conventions, and I saw more than my share of home made uniforms and props. But I also managed to find a lot of people who wanted to discuss the implications of the issues brought up by many of the original series episodes-as Gene Roddenberry intended.

I can do without a lot of the mumbo-jumbo that happens to go along with series SF, but I always liked the various series, even if some episodes left me cold.

And by the way, I remember the original series in FIRST RUN. I've seen what has come out since, and I'm mostly unimpressed. That's not to say that there aren't a lot of good shows available today, but where do you think all of them would be if there hadn't been a Star Trek on NBC in 1966?

[SirCastor]

i voted myself in as a trekkie, but considering the options again, I'm not sure that was quite right. The options seem like they're supposed to be progressive, but I certainly don't watch daily. I do happen to enjoy Star Trek, and I know an awful lot about it...

I think when it comes down to it, there's no real difference between Star Trek fans and fans of other Sci-Fi shows. Trek has just been around so long that the culture has been building for longer. There are huge BSG fans, huge SW fans, LOST fans, Dr Who fans (which I actually haven't ever seen in the extreme), etc.

[Gossamer]

MacNN: No matter what the poll is, people will complain because you left out their choice.

[Dakarʒ]

Or, the more concise version:

Originally Posted by Gossamer 

MacNN: people will complain

[nerd]

I only liked the first ones as well as TNG. When they came out with the ones after TNG the plots were to political instead of scientific for me. I've heard they're better now but haven't watched since I don't have cable anymore.

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by centerchannel68 

I feel about the same as I do about World of Warcraft.

Secretly love it but feel the need to overcompensate by bashing it at every opportunity?

[Gossamer]

Presumptuously looks down on all that enjoy it, using anecdotal evidenced to claim that every single person that likes it is a giant, socially-inept nerd?

[lpkmckenna]

While Star Trek is ok, it's too much talk, not enough action. Same with Babylon 5 or Battlestar Galactica. I far prefer action-oriented sci-fi like Star Wars or Aliens or Firefly or the Matrix.

BTW, the "prime directive" is the most absurd political concept to come out of sci-fi, ever. Watching an episode built around it is like listening to Courtney Love talk philosophy.

[Kenneth]

Never watched it.

[smacintush]

I like the old original and TNG. DS9 was a yawn fest, I could never get into Voyager and Enterprise was always on when I couldn't watch.

I realized about the time that Nemesis came out that I was SOOO over Star Trek. No matter how many different ways you try and do it it's still the same basic story and same plot lines over and over and over.

[Jawbone54]

I used to collect TNG videos as they came out, as well as DS9. I loved TNG and DS9, liked the old series fairly well, hated Voyager, and I've never seen an episode of Enterprise. There are always a few "TV actors" in the casts, and some of the writing was meh (especially Seasons 1 & 2 of TNG), but I always liked Star Trek.

I don't really watch it anymore. Not because it's geeky or I feel that I've outgrown it, but simply because I don't have the time that I used to, so I only have room for one or two real hobbies/interests. That's currently taken up by a bit of gaming and other little artsy projects.

Maybe after I'm out of college I can start collecting the seasons on DVD.

[ort888]

Well, I used to be a regular watcher, but I'm not really an active fan any longer.

I religiously watched TNG, DS9 and about half of Voyager. I have seen most of the original series and about 2 episodes of Enterprise.

However, I no longer watch the show at all, and lost interest in the movies a while ago.

[Jawbone54]

The movies have never been as appealing to me as the show. They get too..."movie-like."

I'm not sure if I can explain that comment.

[Jumbonium2007]

The gods and men movie looks like its going to be pretty good.. Im looking forward to the release of it.. I like the first 3 minutes.. the person that is in the darkness could very well be charlie X

[ghporter]

Originally Posted by lpkmckenna 

While Star Trek is ok, it's too much talk, not enough action. Same with Babylon 5 or Battlestar Galactica. I far prefer action-oriented sci-fi like Star Wars or Aliens or Firefly or the Matrix.

BTW, the "prime directive" is the most absurd political concept to come out of sci-fi, ever. Watching an episode built around it is like listening to Courtney Love talk philosophy.

The three you mentioned are SUPPOSED to be about CHARACTERS, not gee-whiz! For that matter, Firefly was about characters, it's just that their primarily driving conflict had to do with the entire Alliance being after their butts.

[besson3c]

I like the new Battlestar series far better than any Star Trek series - much deeper, grittier, and more complicated.

[Person Man]

Originally Posted by Jawbone54 

Maybe after I'm out of college I can start collecting the seasons on DVD.

I like all the shows, including Voyager and Enterprise, the shows everyone loves to hate. I have all the series on DVD, including the animated ones, and all the movies. I don't dress up as anything/anyone from the show, and I don't get into it beyond enjoying it on TV.

Now that I've collected Star Trek on DVD, I've moved to the Simpsons. And James Bond.

[centerchannel68]

Originally Posted by Chuckit 

Secretly love it but feel the need to overcompensate by bashing it at every opportunity?

No, I just question why someone would want to be that lame. Both are for dorks who live in basements and never get laid, IMHO. But this is my opinion. Maybe there's some really cool, active, creative people who are really into WOW and Star Trek, but I haven't met any.

[ghporter]

Originally Posted by centerchannel68 

No, I just question why someone would want to be that lame. Both are for dorks who live in basements and never get laid, IMHO. But this is my opinion. Maybe there's some really cool, active, creative people who are really into WOW and Star Trek, but I haven't met any.

Hi, my name's Glenn. I like Star Trek because it opens vistas in my imagination, and poses interesting questions that apply to our society today (just as the original series did in the 1960s). Pleased to meet you. Never got into WoW, though. It seems pretty obsessive to me.

[centerchannel68]

Originally Posted by Gossamer 

Presumptuously looks down on all that enjoy it, using anecdotal evidenced to claim that every single person that likes it is a giant, socially-inept nerd?

No, there's also the really really skinny white nerds who unconsciously choose activities and interests that only furthers them from social acceptence. Wow and Stra Trek are great examples.

[centerchannel68]

Originally Posted by ghporter 

Hi, my name's Glenn. I like Star Trek because it opens vistas in my imagination, and poses interesting questions that apply to our society today (just as the original series did in the 1960s). Pleased to meet you. Never got into WoW, though. It seems pretty obsessive to me.

That's a normal answer. But the people who 'get into' Star Trek and WOW are something else. WOW= requires insane amounts of free time, and a desire to 'build a character in an online life' because you're unhappy with your own, or you aren't inspired, or you have a boring job, etc. It's like Diablo II all over again. I don't get it. It requires no real skill, just lots and lots of freetime. I can't use my reflexes or hand eye coordination to 'beat' an experienced opponent.... if his levels (another way of saying lack of REAL LIFE social life) are higher, I lose. What is the fun in that? So basically the biggest loser has the 'best' online character? Gee, awesome, count me out.

[ghporter]

Originally Posted by centerchannel68 

No, there's also the really really skinny white nerds who unconsciously choose activities and interests that only furthers them from social acceptence. Wow and Stra Trek are great examples.

I'll admit to being in that group often referred to as "white" (I'm more a pinkish tan most of the time), but nobody has EVER called me "skinny," and I've never had social problems of the kind you mention.

There certainly is a stereotype of the 17 year old with acne and an overactive imagination that gets hooked on something like Star Trek and sort of melts into it. But skinny 17 year olds without a lot of social support tend to hook onto anything that gives them social interaction, and the whole world of Star Trek fandom is out there waiting to say "we don't care about your complexion, what do you think about this episode?"

At conventions I've met Hugo-winning authors, entrepreneurs who enjoy the free flow of ideas found among fans, game designers (successful and otherwise) and some of the most incredible artists anywhere. Oh, and a few awkward teenage boys too. And girls in chain maile. Guess where those boys were looking!

[centerchannel68]

Yeah, but those girls are probably nasty too. I know quite a few girls who dress up in skimpy anime outfits, and... it's just gross. And disturbing. Anime falls into the same realm as Star Trek/WOW in my book. Along with anybody who's a nut about RPG games too.

[Dakarʒ]

So basically you hate anything that has the stigma of being a nerd carried with it.

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by centerchannel68 

No, there's also the really really skinny white nerds who unconsciously choose activities and interests that only furthers them from social acceptence. Wow and Stra Trek are great examples.

You really are about as emotionally mature as a high school student, huh? Maybe when your brain grows up to match your body you will be less concerned as to what is "cool", and be happy and unashamed to just like what you like.

It's not as if this so-called "social acceptance" is something that we all want anyway. Some of us strive to be more than just your run-of-the-mill average, socially accepted person, for which chain restaurants, American Idol, Wal-mart, and Entertainment Weekly are designed for. Are these cool?

I'm happy being a nerd. I'm above average intelligence, and I'm not being or acting pretentious in stating it, it is just a fact - just like some people are tall, some people have brown eyes, etc. I don't feel ashamed of who I am, and I like Star Trek too, as do many intelligent people that fit your narrow stereotype.

[Gossamer]

Originally Posted by Dakarʒ 

So basically you hate anything that has the stigma of being a nerd carried with it.

But...it's so darn logical!

[Rumor]

It's alright. I liked TNG and thought it had a stellar cast. The rest were meh. The mythology behind it all is pretty interesting.

For the record, Seven was hot.

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by Rumor 

It's alright. I liked TNG and thought it had a stellar cast. The rest were meh. The mythology behind it all is pretty interesting.

For the record, Seven was hot.

The Battlestar babe is even hotter, and far sluttier.

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by besson3c 

It's not as if this so-called "social acceptance" is something that we all want anyway. Some of us strive to be more than just your run-of-the-mill average, socially accepted person, for which chain restaurants, American Idol, Wal-mart, and Entertainment Weekly are designed for. Are these cool?

Hey, I like Entertainment Weekly!

Anyway, I don't see them as mutually exclusive options. I'm a geek on lots of different fronts — I love video-game RPGs (including WOW), watch sci-fi, occasionally watch anime, love reading, write computer programs for fun, go to Comic-Con every year, yada yada yada. I still get along just fine with other people. I get invited to "normal people" parties all the time, I have good hygiene, I'm perfectly capable of holding a conversation that has nothing to do with elves or robots — all that good stuff.

Oh, as for Star Trek: I liked TNG when I was a teenager. Don't really care that much for any of it now. I'm not sure if it's because the movies have run it into the ground or what, but I just don't.

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by Chuckit 

Hey, I like Entertainment Weekly!

Anyway, I don't see them as mutually exclusive options. I'm a geek on lots of different fronts — I love video-game RPGs (including WOW), watch sci-fi, occasionally watch anime, love reading, write computer programs for fun, go to Comic-Con every year, yada yada yada. I still get along just fine with other people. I get invited to "normal people" parties all the time, I have good hygiene, I'm perfectly capable of holding a conversation that has nothing to do with elves or robots — all that good stuff.

Oh, as for Star Trek: I liked TNG when I was a teenager. Don't really care that much for any of it now. I'm not sure if it's because the movies have run it into the ground or what, but I just don't.

I'm perfectly capable of blending in and doing well socially too, I just generally choose to avoid seeking out social interaction because of my anti-social tendencies, but I'm not one of those scary people to approach, or somebody who talks to hear himself talk, or whatever (I'm sure you know the sort of person I'm describing here).

I have a lot of really creative energy that I've only learned how to focus in recent years. I like things that are bizarre, and I have great difficulty creating a rapport with people that are stodgy and/or uncreative. I also don't like conversing with people who don't have much to say - I just dislike small talk, but I can do it when I have to.

I've been a band geek and a computer geek for years, which according to the high school definition of cool that Rob still seems stuck on, would make me a super geek/nerd. I used to be sort of self-conscious about this though because of the stigmas and stereotypes, but I've since learned to embrace my awesomeness!

I also like the Police Academy movies.

[Y3a]

3 minutes of shallow preachy story and 45 minutes of technobabble. Who cares. Babylon 5 had about 3 sentences of technobabble in 5 years. Great story line, superb characters too. Farscape WAS great too. EVERYTHING after TNGwas crap.

[ghporter]

Originally Posted by centerchannel68 

Yeah, but those girls are probably nasty too. I know quite a few girls who dress up in skimpy anime outfits, and... it's just gross. And disturbing. Anime falls into the same realm as Star Trek/WOW in my book. Along with anybody who's a nut about RPG games too.

Anime does not equal SF fan girl in chain maile. TRUST ME ON THIS!!! It's always been better at conventions than at ren faires, because a lot of the females in chain maile at faires are...not the best preserved. The ones at conventions are fresh and barely out of the packaging!

[centerchannel68]

Uh.... yeah. Whatever. Just because it's fresh doesn't mean it's choice. As for the nerd comments.... well, yeah, kinda. Nerdy stuff is lame. Sorry. WOW sucks, it requires no skill. It requires just lots of free time. So, basically, anybody who's 'really good' at WOW must be pretty freakin' lame, and on top of that they don't even have any real skill with it.

On the other hand, I do KINDA respect people who are freaking super good at Quake or UT or something. They're still probably nerds, but at least they have some sort of skill... insane reflexes, crazy precise hand eye coordination, etc.

As for other nerdy things.... well, RPGs in general just annoy me, because of the same reasons as WOW. No skill, just a lot of time. What is the point!? Star Trek? Anime? Super into comics? Nerd, nerd nerd. And I know you guys say you're socially acceptable....but... don't all nerds think that?

It's okay to dork out about some things, but .. okay, I went to engineering school for a while. I had a lot of 'nerdy' friends. And honestly, sometimes they just piss me off. They're socially inept, and instead of getting better, they just waste time on anime. They're fat/skinny/pale, and instead of getting outside and having fun to improve their situation, they sit inside and play diablo II all night. I knew a lot of nerds who were even into 'metal', and they'd get all depressed and listen to all this super heavy metal ****, and it's just like DUDE! You guys are bringing all this crap upon yourselves! Look at your life! You like NERDY crap! You don't respect yourself at all, and instead worship stupid crap like Diablo II, anime, rpgs, and sci-fi garbage! You are sad that you're unpopular, yet you continue to choose the lamest possible activities! Wth!?!?!?!

As for chain restuarants, run of the mill, average, etc... dude. I hate chain restaurants. I despise wal-mart and suburban america. I hate SUVs and the retards that drive them. I love 'being different' from the average suburban dueschebag, but being different does not mean you have to choose the lamest, geekiest, most socially unacceptable activities in order to be 'cool'. Basically, if you're unhappy, change your lifestyle. It doesn't mean you're a fake, it means you're learning new things. Seems to me the people who 'become entrenched' in nerd culture/activities actually FEAR the normal outside world, so to be safe they only do really dorky things with a bunch of other lameasses. >shrug<

[Gossamer]

Hm...
Who has bragged on more than one occasion about having the most highly modded original iMac?
Who bought a computer to specifically use as a TV?
Who has racked up countless hours and thousands of posts arguing on internet message boards?

The nerdiness is clear.

[besson3c]

Rob,

What you are saying is don't do these sorts of activities to the detriment of your own socialization, health, and connection with the outside world. Or, in other words, practice some moderation and restraint. This I agree with.

What I disagree with is that there is something wrong with these specific activities and the people who partake in them. It is possible play WoW, to like anime, etc. without jeopardizing other aspects of your life.

If going to clubs, getting drunk, cruising for women, or even souping up cars is considered cool, I'd consider people who do nothing but just as vacant and empty as the nerds you are ranting about. I'd say that these sorts of people "hide" from the real world in the same way you are describing.

However, a little balance in one's life is an important thing, that I agree with. I apologize for saying you have the emotional maturity of a high school student, but you really need to think very carefully about how you are saying what you want to say.

[besson3c]

Rob,

I've known people who like to do all of these crazy things to their car so that their engines sound loud, their stereo systems deafening, and their cars super fast so that they can race to the next red light and get there before anybody else. Many might consider this cool, but I consider it utterly retarded, and people whose lives revolve around doing this completely vacant and empty. If I were to rant and rave about these sorts of people, would you come to their defense?

[centerchannel68]

Originally Posted by Gossamer 

Hm...
Who has bragged on more than one occasion about having the most highly modded original iMac?
Who bought a computer to specifically use as a TV?
Who has racked up countless hours and thousands of posts arguing on internet message boards?

The nerdiness is clear.

That's more geeky than nerdy.

[centerchannel68]

Originally Posted by besson3c 

Rob,

I've known people who like to do all of these crazy things to their car so that their engines sound loud, their stereo systems deafening, and their cars super fast so that they can race to the next red light and get there before anybody else. Many might consider this cool, but I consider it utterly retarded, and people whose lives revolve around doing this completely vacant and empty. If I were to rant and rave about these sorts of people, would you come to their defense?

I would say you've never owned a cool, fast car.

PS: If their entire lives revolve around futzing with their cars, I'd also consider them pretty vacant.