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Jun 10, 2007, 12:58 PM
 
I generally have a low tolerance for people who don't have what I would call "life skills." I have a housemate who is one of those people who just doesn't have any common sense. That's fine, I can get past that, but occasionally his dimwittedness impacts me. I realize it is mostly pretty trivial, but I wish there was some way to "fix" it without being a nag. I don't want to be that guy.

For example: after he takes a shower, he closes the bathroom door when he leaves, trapping all of the steam inside. This is generally unpleasant for the person who next enters the bathroom, and it encourages mold and mildew growth.

Another example: his diet generally consists of either pasta and meat sauce, or pre-cooked, packaged kielbasa sausage on rolls. After he boils a big pot of pasta, he will take the 3 gallon pot, stick it in the sink, and fill it to the rim with tap water, I guess to "soak." Despite that fact that all he did with it was boil some starch. He does the same when he boils a kielbasa, which, as I jokingly said to him once, "you know those are pre-cooked, right," even though he boils them for like 15 minutes.

Ah, I wish I could afford to live alone.

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Jun 10, 2007, 10:35 PM
 
at least he showers.
     
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Jun 10, 2007, 10:38 PM
 
Poison his food with stuff that makes him sh*t a lot. He'll learn a lot of common sense on the toilet
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Jun 11, 2007, 01:12 AM
 
Beat him when he does something stupid.

I personally like following the low common sense person with a cattle prod.
     
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Jun 11, 2007, 01:31 AM
 
My fiancテゥ always touches glass, windows and mirrors with her fingers. She'll close the car door with her hand on the window, open and close our mirror-doored wardrobes with her fingers leaving grease marks everywhere.

It just infuriates me that she never seems to have learnt this common sense thing. It's like always putting your seat-belt on, or washing your hands after you've been to the toilet. You shouldn't have to think about these things.

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Jun 11, 2007, 01:33 AM
 
Hey, now rumor is jumping around!

Was I not informed of bizzaro day?

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Jun 11, 2007, 06:13 AM
 
Once you stop listening to your own "common sense" it stops "talking to you"

That and I bet somewhere out there Spacemonkey's roomy is writing a thread about him and something inane he does.

We all have our weird quirks.

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Jun 11, 2007, 06:55 AM
 
I agree with Kevin, there are quirks and there is common sense.

For instance, most people I know believe its common courtesy to keep the bathroom closed even after showers.

One man's common sense is another's custom. As for the seatbelt issue, I think that's less common sense and more laziness or not wanting too.
     
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Jun 11, 2007, 07:54 AM
 
Originally Posted by - - e r i k - - View Post
My fiancテゥ always touches glass, windows and mirrors with her fingers. She'll close the car door with her hand on the window, open and close our mirror-doored wardrobes with her fingers leaving grease marks everywhere.
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Jun 11, 2007, 07:58 AM
 
Are you an only child?

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Jun 11, 2007, 09:37 AM
 
You're not asking about common sense - you're asking about, for lack of a better word, customs. He's different than you. Quit being so judgmental and intolerant. Ever think of offering up a simple "hey, mind leaving the door open after your shower so it's not so steamy in there? i don't like sweating while crapping"?
     
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Jun 11, 2007, 09:51 AM
 
Originally Posted by ort888 View Post
Are you an only child?
^ What I was thinking. I would say being able to deal with another person's quirks is a very important life skill.

Also, pasta can get quite sticky and annoying to remove if you don't completely remove all of it immediately or soak it in water.
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Jun 11, 2007, 10:10 AM
 
You might think about a vent fan in your bathroom.
     
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Jun 11, 2007, 10:10 AM
 
Originally Posted by erik
My fiancテゥ always touches glass, windows and mirrors with her fingers. She'll close the car door with her hand on the window, open and close our mirror-doored wardrobes with her fingers leaving grease marks everywhere.
I do the same, often. For me, it窶冱 more of a general hesitation towards touching door handles and such things. Not because I think they窶决e dirty or anything like that; rather, it comes from living in Beijing where the humidity is so low that if you happen to be wearing rubber shoes, everything metallic that you touch will electrocute you a little, and I hate that. So I got used to using my jacket sleeves to open and close doors, pushing on non-conductive (glass, wood) surfaces, rather than touching the metallic handles, etc. Still sticks, even though I窶冦 back where the risks of 窶脇lectrocuettes窶 are a lot smaller, now.

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We all have our weird quirks.

I sleep with a pillow between my knees.
I twist and turn too much when I sleep to be able to do that, but since I usually sleep on my side, I tend to stuff the blanket in between my knees as well. That窶冱 just common sense to me: if I don窶冲, I wake up with chafed, red knees. Uncomfortable as well.

Originally Posted by Chuckit
Also, pasta can get quite sticky and annoying to remove if you don't completely remove all of it immediately or soak it in water.
It窶冱 not usually necessary to fill it up, though: rinsing off the foam that forms on the surface of the water when it窶冱 boiling and soaking the bottom couple of centimetres is normally enough.



I think I generally have more of these 窶歪ustoms窶 than most people, and it always annoys me when people do things differently (though I usually don窶冲 say anything). For example, since we窶决e on the topic of showering, it annoys me to no end that my boyfriend never wipes the floor properly (there窶冱 no separator in our bathroom, so when you shower, the entire bathroom floor gets soaked) after showering, or that he never puts shower gels, shampoos, razors, etc., back in their proper place, but leaves them standing on the sink. Or that, rather than rinsing tableware and pans quickly and putting them aside for proper washing later on, he窶冤l simply pile everything up in the sink without rinsing it, so that not only is the sink unusable, it also begins to stink really quickly.

(Yes, I窶冦 an only child. Yes, I窶况e had my own bathroom that only I used since I was 13. Yes, kitchen service has been my job since I was about 9. Yes, I窶冦 anal-retentive about these things.)
     
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Jun 11, 2007, 10:10 AM
 
Those are not really common sense things. A good example of someone lacking common sense is my friend. She told me that she wanted to wash her parent's car. She was maybe 20 at the time. She washed it and everything and wanted to dry it so she used paper napkins to do so. She was wondering why it took so many napkins to dry the car. Now, that is lack of common sense.

As for the bathroom issue, I do that also because of privacy reasons. You can usually prop the window open in there or turn on the air vent thing after you come out.
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Originally Posted by Oisテュn View Post
(Yes, I窶冦 an only child. Yes, I窶况e had my own bathroom that only I used since I was 13. Yes, kitchen service has been my job since I was about 9. Yes, I窶冦 anal-retentive about these things.)
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Originally Posted by mindwaves
Those are not really common sense things. A good example of someone lacking common sense is my friend. She told me that she wanted to wash her parent's car. She was maybe 20 at the time. She washed it and everything and wanted to dry it so she used paper napkins to do so. She was wondering why it took so many napkins to dry the car. Now, that is lack of common sense.
No, that窶冱 not lacking common sense, that窶冱 just plain stupidity.

As for the bathroom issue, I do that also because of privacy reasons. You can usually prop the window open in there or turn on the air vent thing after you come out.
What privacy reasons? Once you窶决e done showering and you窶决e out of the bathroom, there窶冱 nothing 窶湾rivate窶 to lock in, is there? I mean, yeah, if you have guests over or something, but not otherwise.

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Jun 11, 2007, 10:26 AM
 
Isn't 'common sense' an idea that we resort to when we are unable to make a logical case for something, but think others should agree with us anyway?
     
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Originally Posted by ort888 View Post
Are you an only child?
Nope. And I've successfully lived in group house settings for the last 5 years or so.

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Originally Posted by mindwaves View Post
As for the bathroom issue, I do that also because of privacy reasons. You can usually prop the window open in there or turn on the air vent thing after you come out.
There are no privacy reasons. I'm talking about after he leaves the bathroom. Also, this bathroom is windowless, and there is no fan vent.

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Originally Posted by Oisテュn View Post
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Jun 11, 2007, 11:48 AM
 
Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey View Post
There are no privacy reasons. I'm talking about after he leaves the bathroom. Also, this bathroom is windowless, and there is no fan vent.
Oh, after he leaves the bathroom. Yeah, then by all means, leave the door open!
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Originally Posted by peeb View Post
Isn't 'common sense' an idea that we resort to when we are unable to make a logical case for something, but think others should agree with us anyway?
My logic:
1. Bathroom issue - as I said, encourages mold and mildew growth, unpleasant for anyone going into the bathroom later (there are no windows or fan vent)
2. "Soaking" a pasta pot - resource waste, and a 3 gallon pot filled with water, sitting in the sink, makes it difficult for anyone else to use the sink.

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Originally Posted by wallinbl View Post
You're not asking about common sense - you're asking about, for lack of a better word, customs. He's different than you. Quit being so judgmental and intolerant. Ever think of offering up a simple "hey, mind leaving the door open after your shower so it's not so steamy in there? i don't like sweating while crapping"?
But then where will I get my sense of moral superiority?

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Originally Posted by Dakarハ View Post
No need to be bitter or elitist.

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Jun 11, 2007, 12:02 PM
 
A good example of what Kev was saying is that I am kind of a messy roommate. I guess my bathroom etiquette would annoy more than one of you in here.

However, both my roommates wouldn't turn on the dehumidifier in the basement if their life depended on it. To me it's common sense to run a dehumidifier in a dank basement during humid summer months, but I also haven't the faintest clue about etiquette things I deem 'silly.'

It's all relative, I say just deal with it unless you are so anal that your head might explode if you don't get your way.
     
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Me and Bekah both have our quirks. We've both learned to live with them. I've had a few roomates that I've always got along with. One saying I was the best roomate he had. (We used to have a blast...)

I can handle anyone that isn't a COMPLETE slob. Or someone that stinks of body odor all the time.

My ex roomate used to always bum cigs off me in the middle of the night. Someone he'd smoke them all. But I'd sometimes find a carton lying on my bed when I'd come home from work.

It all evened out.

He decided to quit smoking one day and went on the gum. So I felt guilty smoking around him and did the same. 5 years later I still haven't picked up a cig, and he is still smoking...

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Originally Posted by sek
It's all relative, I say just deal with it unless you are so anal that your head might explode if you don't get your way.
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I live with a borderline OCD kid, my bud Aaron.

We've lived together in various houses/apartments for the last 3 years and we never get at eachother's throats even though our differences are huge.

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Originally Posted by Oisテュn View Post
I twist and turn too much when I sleep to be able to do that, but since I usually sleep on my side, I tend to stuff the blanket in between my knees as well. That窶冱 just common sense to me: if I don窶冲, I wake up with chafed, red knees. Uncomfortable as well.
We're supposed to believe that is from sleeping?
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Whoa, my post jumped 4 spots up, I'm jesus!!

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Let's see you... shut up.
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