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macintologist · Jul 11, 2007, 04:55 PM

Apple - Support - Downloads - QuickTime 7.2 for Mac

About QuickTime 7.2 for Mac
QuickTime 7.2 addresses critical security issues and delivers:
- Support for full screen viewing in QuickTime Player
- Updates to the H.264 codec
- Numerous bug fixes

It's about time!

On the same topic, it seems like the list of long-standing Apple/Mac related pet peeves is shrinking. Gone are the days of the one-button mouse, gone are the days of paying $30 to watch fullscreen Quicktime.

So what's left?

analogue SPRINKLES · Jul 11, 2007, 05:00 PM

Finder hanging when a server disconnects.

macintologist · Jul 11, 2007, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES

Finder hanging when a server disconnects.

I'm thinking more long standing than that. The one-button mouse was standard for about 19 years. You've had to pay for Quicktime fullscreen for 9 years.

Kevin · Jul 11, 2007, 05:21 PM

still only one button. That button just serves different functions depending how and where you touch it.

analogue SPRINKLES · Jul 11, 2007, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by macintologist

I'm thinking more long standing than that. The one-button mouse was standard for about 19 years. You've had to pay for Quicktime fullscreen for 9 years.

Well 7 years with that bug is long enough.

11011001 · Jul 11, 2007, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES

Finder hanging when a server disconnects.

Oh god yes. Though, they have made significant improvements on that front, just not enough.

NobleMatt · Jul 11, 2007, 05:46 PM

tbh should have been in quicktime along time ago, but its easy enough to pick up the pro serial

macintologist · Jul 11, 2007, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by crazyreaper

tbh should have been in quicktime along time ago, but its easy enough to pick up the pro serial

I can neither confirm nor deny that I have done the same all these years

turtle777 · Jul 11, 2007, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES

Finder hanging when a server disconnects.

Is fixed in Leopard.
The new Cocoa Finder will work wonders. They say.

-t

analogue SPRINKLES · Jul 11, 2007, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by turtle777

Is fixed in Leopard.
The new Cocoa Finder will work wonders. They say.

-t

Ya well they said that with 10.3 and fixing the servers.

Anywho, is the new finder totally new or ported from Carbon? It is OFFICIALLY Cocoa or some devs best guess?

voodoo · Jul 11, 2007, 06:07 PM

Whoa /Keanu

This is a real moment in a Apple-nerdy way. Way overdue Apple, but thanks anyways. Now I can stop registering QT pro with pirated serials -- which I did just for the full-screen feature.

V

NobleMatt · Jul 11, 2007, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by macintologist

I can neither confirm nor deny that I have done the same all these years

lol cheeky, we have tutors telling us to use ones posted on the net lol

Brass · Jul 11, 2007, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by crazyreaper

tbh should have been in quicktime along time ago, but its easy enough to pick up the pro serial

They DID have it in Quicktime Player long ago, but then they removed it from the free version several years ago. This thread should really be titled, "Fullscreen playback in Quicktime again!".

NB: Quicktime (free or otherwise) has always allowed fullscreen playback. It's just the bundled Quicktime player that did not for a few years. Other quicktime-playback applications always could. 'Quicktime' is not an application.

Dakarʒ · Jul 11, 2007, 07:02 PM

Oh good, I might finally do that update they issued a month or two ago.

mduell · Jul 11, 2007, 08:10 PM

Still can't save a file? Still crippled.

MindFad · Jul 11, 2007, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by voodoo

Whoa /Keanu

This is a real moment in a Apple-nerdy way. Way overdue Apple, but thanks anyways. Now I can stop registering QT pro with pirated serials -- which I did just for the full-screen feature.

V

My first thought.

Jasoco · Jul 11, 2007, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by mduell

Still can't save a file? Still crippled.

Which is why I'll continue to pirate it. Saving and Fullscreen should be free. Forget all the exporting and editing, at least let me save from a web page without having to pirate the serial.

macintologist · Jul 11, 2007, 09:28 PM

Speaking of the quicktime plugin, that thing is so atrociously late 90s, I don't think it has changed since the Quicktime 3.0 days

Eug · 10:16 PM

Nobody ever used QTAmateur?

The stupid part was that the only thing that QTAmateur did in this regard was to expose the free QT functionality already built into OS X. Apple's refusal to allow full screen playback for so many years in QuickTime is just an another example of how stupidly stubborn they can be sometimes about dumb little things. The other was external DVD burning support. It was always there, but they just refused to let us use it for the longest time.

Eventually Apple comes around after we bitch for years. Why does it have to be this way? And we still have to wait for saving files in QuickTime.

P.S. Hopefully, iWeb in the next iLife isn't as intentionally crippled as it is now.

BRussell · Jul 11, 2007, 10:23 PM

I wonder if there's any ulterior motive in doing this. Could this be prepping for anything? With Apple moving so strongly to iTunes for video playback, it's hard to see why Quicktime player even matters to them anymore.

Eug · Jul 11, 2007, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by BRussell

I wonder if there's any ulterior motive in doing this. Could this be prepping for anything? With Apple moving so strongly to iTunes for video playback, it's hard to see why Quicktime player even matters to them anymore.

I sure hope not. I really hate using iTunes for video playback. I also hate when Apple forces you to watch certain trailers in iTunes.

Mithras · Jul 11, 2007, 10:34 PM

Maybe somebody got up the nerve to sent an email to Steve about it.

Eug · Jul 11, 2007, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by Mithras

Maybe somebody got up the nerve to sent an email to Steve about it.

Well, not to Steve, but a few years back I believe I sent a bug report to Apple complaining about the QuickTime full screen issue.

BRussell · Jul 11, 2007, 10:52 PM

Perhaps they're intending on separating video playback from iTunes into Quicktime Player. Wishful thinking, I know, but they've got to stop putting everything into iTunes at some point.

zro · Jul 12, 2007, 12:30 AM

tell application "QuickTime Player" to present front movie scale screen

Used it for years. You guys should learn to use your Macs.

NobleMatt · Jul 12, 2007, 01:38 AM

Originally Posted by Brass

They DID have it in Quicktime Player long ago, but then they removed it from the free version several years ago. This thread should really be titled, "Fullscreen playback in Quicktime again!".

NB: Quicktime (free or otherwise) has always allowed fullscreen playback. It's just the bundled Quicktime player that did not for a few years. Other quicktime-playback applications always could. 'Quicktime' is not an application.

intresting, thanks very much, new to macs so dont know much about this history + only 19

nonhuman · Jul 12, 2007, 09:44 AM

Meh, Apple gives me free Quicktime Pro serials, and I use VLC for most video anyway...

Dakarʒ · Jul 12, 2007, 09:54 AM

VLCs scrubbing is horrific, though.

macintologist · Jul 12, 2007, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by nonhuman

Meh, Apple gives me free Quicktime Pro serials, and I use VLC for most video anyway...

After Perian came out I started using Quicktime Player for a lot more things.

nonhuman · Jul 12, 2007, 10:03 AM

But it's got support for vastly more codecs, and it does a way better job of playing high resolution video in matroshka files (even with the right codecs in QuickTime).

nonhuman · Jul 12, 2007, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by macintologist

After Perian came out I started using Quicktime Player for a lot more things.

Try playing 1080p h.264 video in a .mkv file with .ac3 audio.

Dakarʒ · Jul 12, 2007, 10:15 AM

Is it me or is this thread loading terribly slow (especially in comparison to other threads)

nonhuman · Jul 12, 2007, 10:20 AM

It's not you.

Dakarʒ · Jul 12, 2007, 10:30 AM

Related to the Database, no doubt.

RAILhead · Jul 12, 2007, 10:43 AM

Doesn't everyone know you can snag the movies from the cache file -- or was that killed why back when, too (I've always used Pro)?

besson3c · Jul 12, 2007, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES

Ya well they said that with 10.3 and fixing the servers.

Anywho, is the new finder totally new or ported from Carbon? It is OFFICIALLY Cocoa or some devs best guess?

This is the first thing I tested when I played with the WWDC Leopard build. I could not reproduce this problem, to my delight!

angelmb · Jul 12, 2007, 02:48 PM

Such new deserves a pict orgy… first QT, first served

macintologist · Jul 12, 2007, 07:36 PM

What the hell?? Now with this updated Quicktime, when I play a movie in fullscreen on the second monitor, once I click somewhere on the first monitor, it leaves fullscreen on the second one! It never used to do this!

Amorya · Jul 12, 2007, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES

Ya well they said that with 10.3 and fixing the servers.

Anywho, is the new finder totally new or ported from Carbon? It is OFFICIALLY Cocoa or some devs best guess?

It's officially still carbon, apart from the CoverFlow bit, which is a cocoa view embedded in the carbon app. Source.

wataru · Jul 13, 2007, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by macintologist

What the hell?? Now with this updated Quicktime, when I play a movie in fullscreen on the second monitor, once I click somewhere on the first monitor, it leaves fullscreen on the second one! It never used to do this!

Check the prefs, Fullscreen tab.

lpkmckenna · Jul 13, 2007, 11:21 AM

Fi-na-lee. Jeez.

Next, make dotMac free with iLife and I'll stop complaining about you nickel'n'diming us over and over again, Apple.

moonmonkey · Jul 13, 2007, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES

Ya well they said that with 10.3 and fixing the servers.

Yes, but its true now.
It is lightning fast and nothing hangs the Finder.

CMYKid · Jul 13, 2007, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by nonhuman

Meh, Apple gives me free Quicktime Pro serials, and I use VLC for most video anyway...

I still use QT for most things but VLC lets you float the window over everything else so its perfec t for watching downloaded TV shows while doin other things at work.

The scrubbing DOES really suck tho.

My BIGGEST peeve with iTunes-purchased shows is the fact that you cant keep that window floating on top. That and it stutters a LOT when in the background. So I pirate stuff I'd appily pay for in iTunes just because of the lack of those features.

voodoo · Jul 13, 2007, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by Dakarʒ

VLCs scrubbing is horrific, though.

it is also crashy and allows only one window open at a time.

I still use it though. It is that good.

V

MindFad · Jul 13, 2007, 07:32 PM

In Leopard, next to the "minimize button" in the full screen mode player window, there's a "fill screen button" which fills the screen up no matter the movie's aspect ratio.