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Sep 19, 2007, 04:33 PM
 
I have bought $1800 USD 1 week ago. At current exchange rates, I have lost about $100 CAD.

Any advice? Should I hold on to it or cash it in for CAD funds before the US Dollar crashes evven more?
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Sep 19, 2007, 04:53 PM
 
The dollar will probably continue to decline for a while, given the aggressive easing by the Fed.

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Sep 19, 2007, 04:55 PM
 
How bad do you need that money? I'm not into speculation in the currency markets.. but my guess is that the US $ isn't gonna "CRASH" anytime soon. Chances are, it'll comeback at somepoint.....

Then again, the US dollar vs Taiwan Dollar used to be at 1 - 40..... I think its never been higher than around 33-35 since the late 80's .... so that's a drop of 13% or so for the last 20 years.....
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Sep 19, 2007, 05:00 PM
 
Keep it for a bit.

Last time I looked, the £ was over $2. Now it's back under. Whether it's the £ being weaker or the $ being stronger, I don't know. But it'll pick up again soon, for sure.
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Sep 19, 2007, 05:06 PM
 
Originally Posted by Doofy View Post
Keep it for a bit.

Last time I looked, the £ was over $2. Now it's back under. Whether it's the £ being weaker or the $ being stronger, I don't know. But it'll pick up again soon, for sure.
Oh good. It just has to stay below $2 until October 1, when the Harry Potter adult boxed set I ordered from Amazon UK ships. Then it can go up again.

Actually, playing the currency market is not a very good way to invest your money at all.
     
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Sep 19, 2007, 05:14 PM
 
Actually, playing the currency market is not a very good way to invest your money at all.
This is exactly right.
The market for currency is one of the "worst" you can invest in and also more risky than throwing your money at a random stock on the NY stock exchange.

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Sep 19, 2007, 05:15 PM
 
Originally Posted by freudling View Post
I have bought $1800 USD 1 week ago. At current exchange rates, I have lost about $100 CAD.

Any advice? Should I hold on to it or cash it in for CAD funds before the US Dollar crashes evven more?
Why did you buy it ? To speculate ? Good grief...

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Sep 19, 2007, 05:20 PM
 
Originally Posted by Person Man View Post
Actually, playing the currency market is not a very good way to invest your money at all.
I wouldn't have said so either. Unless you have a Swiss banker making the plays for you or something.
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Sep 19, 2007, 05:27 PM
 
Originally Posted by Doofy View Post
Unless you have a Swiss banker making the plays for you or something.
Good old Hans.

Though I'd actually buy Euros if I were a betting man. My father is griping and complaining about all the money he "lost" from 2003-2007 going from US$ to euros as he built his retirement house in Greece. When he built the house itself, it was $1.10/euro, now it's almost $1.40/euro and so that € 1250 solar water heater he wants costs him ~ $1750 instead of ~ $1375. Though, he does get a pension of € 160 a month for the 10 years he worked in Europe (2 in Greece, 8 in Germany). I think he should save that up for a year... no money lost that way.

Anyway, he's coming back to the United States again in November. Then I don't have to hear him gripe about "losing money" until he goes back to Greece in May. My father actually believes that eventually we'll reach $2/euro.
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Sep 19, 2007, 05:33 PM
 
FX trading is a zero-sum game, not an investment.
     
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Sep 19, 2007, 05:35 PM
 
Originally Posted by Sealobo View Post
FX trading is a zero-sum game, not an investment.
Regardless of what you call it, it's a good way to lose money.
     
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Sep 19, 2007, 05:38 PM
 
Originally Posted by Sealobo View Post
FX trading is a zero-sum game, not an investment.
Yes, it looks like this:

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Sep 19, 2007, 06:07 PM
 
Originally Posted by Sealobo View Post
FX trading is a zero-sum game, not an investment.
"It's a zero sum game, somebody wins, somebody loses. Money itself isn't lost or made, it's simply transferred from one perception to another. - like 'magic'."
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Sep 19, 2007, 06:13 PM
 
This is not as much about the US$ being weak, it's about the CAN$ being strong. I can't see any sign of that changing in the near future.
     
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Sep 19, 2007, 08:42 PM
 
One thing to note...There is usually a different exchange rate to buy and sell a currency. If you have no immediate needs for the money, keep it in US dollars and wait.

The worst case is that you never convert it back to Canadian, and you go down south for a weekend and spend exactly $1800...
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Sep 20, 2007, 04:14 AM
 
Originally Posted by Mastrap View Post
This is not as much about the US$ being weak, it's about the CAN$ being strong. I can't see any sign of that changing in the near future.
Oh these things rarely stay the same.
     
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Sep 20, 2007, 05:51 PM
 
I cashed out today and lost about $120 CAD. The US dollar yesterday for $100 CAD, 98.65 USD. I just changed it today and it is $100 CAD = 99.85 USD. I just checked about 5 minutes ago and now it is at 99.90. We are almost at 1:1.

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Sep 20, 2007, 06:02 PM
 
In the long run, the dollar is going to keep dropping. In the short run, nobody knows. Currency speculation by individuals is crazy.
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Sep 20, 2007, 10:35 PM
 
Originally Posted by Kevin View Post
Oh these things rarely stay the same.
This is true. There is every indication that the US$ will slip further before recovering. CIBC's analysts predict a 91CAN/100US situation for most of next year.
     
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Sep 20, 2007, 11:00 PM
 
CAD is up against not only USD but also EUR, GBP and JPY right now. CAD is now above par versus USD in the markets.

I'm not sure if you should hold on to it as this is not just a case of the USD dropping but CAD continuing it's rise against all currencies.

Some are saying that USD will rebound on Tuesday if the Bank of Canada intervenes but nothing is a certainty.

Investing in EUR might be a safer strategy.
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Sep 21, 2007, 12:18 AM
 
I'm just happy that my Yen is finally worth something. For the past TWO years its been at least 120 yen to $1. Now its 116 and dropping. Makes me happy when sending money home for student loans.
     
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Sep 21, 2007, 02:05 AM
 
There is a FX theory which supported that the value of a nation's currency (with respect to the others') is a direct effect in reverse to the laziness of its labors.

to depict this in an overly simplified linear fashion:

hardworking labors -> higher productivity/efficiency -> comparative advantage -> same good at lower cost produced -> higher export -> increased demand for domestic currency -> appreciation over foreign currencies of relatively lazy nations.

So to conclude, the Canadians have awaken and become not as lazy as before! They are now on par against their US counterpart!
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Sep 21, 2007, 05:18 AM
 
Originally Posted by Mastrap View Post
This is true. There is every indication that the US$ will slip further before recovering. CIBC's analysts predict a 91CAN/100US situation for most of next year.
I was referring to the comment you made about Canada. It's going to drop down soon as well. It's the way the economy works. There are dips, and there are fluctuations. I've never seen a country's economic status stay the same for a long period of time.
     
   
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