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Big Mac · Nov 27, 2007, 02:59 PM

I pretty much agree with you, Nodnarb, although I didn't hate the episode. It's clear from the trailer that before Peter can fire, Hiro blinks in behind him and holds the sword to this throat that way. It would have made sense for Hiro to mention that Adam is going to release the virus, but with Peter unfrozen and apparently on Adam's side Hiro would prefer to just get things over with quickly if possible. I found Mohinder's reaction to hearing from Sylar humorous, and I kind of hope Sylar kills Molly.

analogue SPRINKLES · Nov 27, 2007, 03:07 PM

Ok so the only thing that can kill one of the people with healing power is to blow their heads off with a shotgun? That's pretty easy.

Nuclear bombs and other large explosions don't seem to cut it with the head blowing up part.

Laminar · Nov 27, 2007, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES

Ok so the only thing that can kill one of the people with healing power is to blow their heads off with a shotgun? That's pretty easy.

Nuclear bombs and other large explosions don't seem to cut it with the head blowing up part.

I'm curious. What happens if you cut someone off right under the armpits. Will the body grow back? Apparently. How about right above the shoulders? Neck? Does the head have to be disintegrated?

And I know Claire can heal, but since when does she have super strength? Show me the 16 year old cheerleader capable of busting a car window with one punch.

jonasmac · Nov 27, 2007, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by Laminar

I'm curious. What happens if you cut someone off right under the armpits. Will the body grow back? Apparently. How about right above the shoulders? Neck? Does the head have to be disintegrated?

And I know Claire can heal, but since when does she have super strength? Show me the 16 year old cheerleader capable of busting a car window with one punch.

Maybe "the madder Claire gets, the stronger Claire gets"? "Why won't puny humans leave Claire alone?!" Her adrenaline was probably pumping because Elle helped cause HRG's death.

Chuckit · 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES

Ok so the only thing that can kill one of the people with healing power is to blow their heads off with a shotgun?

It was shown twice last season that puncturing a certain spot in the back of the brain shuts off the healing power (thus how Claire and Peter died until the things were removed from their heads), so I guess a point-blank shotgun to the head would completely obliterate that part of the brain and prevent them from ever healing through the damage.

Oh, and on the general topic: I loved the last episode. I found Maya and Alejandro's behavior pretty much in line with how they've been all season (i.e. morons, with Maya being slightly evil). I like Sylar having an eager little pupil to teach in the art of creepy staring. I also liked the New Orleans crew's superheroism. What is Parkman doing now, though? Wasn't he looking for Pratt as well?

:haripu: · 12:44 AM

I think that the last episode once again proved that Peter is not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Neither is Hiro.

Neither are the writers obviously, when they introduced the new gunshots-to-the-head-kill-a-lot-better-than-nuclear-explosions-paradigm.

But whatever, the show lost me already at the last season finale. Don't get me wrong, I think it is still very good compared with most TV-shows, but I sometimes wonder what could have been, had the writers been given a little more time for each episode.
But I guess the view for the end-product as a whole (or even a work of art) gets lost in the day-to-day production process.

Demonhood · Nov 27, 2007, 05:01 PM

i think they're just trying to finish quickly with this story arc (volume) to get to the next one (if the strike ends soon).

jonasmac · Nov 27, 2007, 05:02 PM

It's still the best night on TV right now, especially since "Heroes" follows "Chuck."

Chuckit · Nov 27, 2007, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by jonasmac

It's still the best night on TV right now, especially since "Heroes" follows "Chuck."

Pushing Daisies + Gossip Girl FTW

jonasmac · Nov 27, 2007, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

Pushing Daisies + Gossip Girl FTW

Unfortunately, we don't get CW here....but Pushing Daisies is good stuff.

euchomai · Nov 27, 2007, 09:32 PM

Chuck is the best show on TV... Heroes, this week, was really weak in my opinion. The Thanksgiving commercials really made this episode look much better than it was. Next week better be amazing!

analogue SPRINKLES · Nov 27, 2007, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by :haripu:

I think that the last episode once again proved that Peter is not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Neither is Hiero.

Peter isn't too bright but Hiero is a total idiot. Watching Hiero time travel is like watching a retarded kid at Disney land that got separated from the group.

Nodnarb · Nov 27, 2007, 10:45 PM

*Hiro

JoshuaZ · Nov 27, 2007, 11:09 PM

I think Maya is the real virus. Thats the twist I'm betting on. She gets control of her powers, gets really pissed off when 1) Mohinder kills Sylar or 2) She finds out Sylar is really evil and hates life.

Peter is dumb. Seriously. Read people's minds for once to find out if they're telling the truth. Gee wiz.

Stogieman · Nov 27, 2007, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by Nodnarb

*Hiro

He's Canadian. They like to include extra vowels.

Brien · Nov 28, 2007, 03:10 AM

Originally Posted by JoshuaZ

I think Maya is the real virus. Thats the twist I'm betting on. She gets control of her powers, gets really pissed off when 1) Mohinder kills Sylar or 2) She finds out Sylar is really evil and hates life.

Peter is dumb. Seriously. Read people's minds for once to find out if they're telling the truth. Gee wiz.

That's what I'm thinking. They may well get the whole Hiro/Adam thing done with this volume, and spend volume three on the virus.

SirCastor · Nov 28, 2007, 08:47 AM

My thoughts about the whole head cutting off thing:

The brain takes care of all these little things we don't think about too often: breathing, heart rate, and the immune system. So if the brain thinks it's dead, or is actually not functioning (because it's been chopped off), the body isn't going to be able to respond to regrow something. I imagine that actually being destroyed by a nuclear weapon would not be something you can grow back from. I think the reason that Peter survived is because he was healing while he was 'going off'. (Think Wolverine at the end of X3, healing while Jean is tearing his body apart.) Either that or he and Ted had some built in protective mechanism because of their power.

On a totally unrelated note something just occurred to me. Both Clare and Adam's blood can be injected into someone else and heal them (although it's unclear how long that healing power lasts.) Can Peter do that too? What other abilities can be transferred through blood?

JoshuaZ · Nov 28, 2007, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by SirCastor

Either that or he and Ted had some built in protective mechanism because of their power.

I always figured Ted's power didn't hurt him. When he was blowing up at Claire's house he didn't seem to be hurt by it, nor any long term problems due to radiation. It would suck to have a power that harmed you.

adamfishercox · Nov 28, 2007, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by JoshuaZ

Peter is dumb. Seriously. Read people's minds for once to find out if they're telling the truth. Gee wiz.

Even though I agree that the cliffhanger was idiotic at the last episode's end, no one seems to be remembering that peter is rediscovering his powers. He cannot mind read at will. In fact, his lightning was probably just reflexive.

Big Mac · Nov 28, 2007, 02:13 PM

I don't know, he seemed to be able to do it pretty easily with that red head Company chick.