[Tesselator]

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• Remarks on Violent Radicalization & Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act, HR 1955 by Ron Paul
  Also Click the Digg link.

By reading the congressman's comments it looks as if the bill was passed in a very sneaky
way. This is extra scary to me. They passed the Patriot Act and the Patriot Act II in a similarly
sneaky way and they're using them to do some pretty bad things. Now that /seems/ to be
pointed directly at us - the internet users.

This could be very bad news if you're under 20 and haven't figured out how to act civil online
yet - we all know the types - or are just very opinionated like myself. In the former case these
kids are only immature loud-mouths and won't be deserving of the kinds of life altering
experiences they may be in for with this.

This is about HR 1955 which resembles the patriot act in too many ways - And it's directed at
individuals (that's you and I!) on the internet. Now I feel downright singled out. Here's the Wiki
link but with all the censorship (Political and History "revisions") they have undertaken in the
in 2006 I doubt it will say anything significant - at least for very long
Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Here's some interesting (and scary) quotes from the bill:

• SEC. 899A (2) VIOLENT RADICALIZATION- The term `violent radicalization' means the process of adopting or promoting an extremist belief system for the purpose of facilitating ideologically based violence to advance political, religious, or social change.”
  
  
• SEC. 899B. (3) The Internet has aided in facilitating violent radicalization, ideologically based violence, and the homegrown terrorism process in the United States by providing access to broad and constant streams of terrorist-related propaganda to United States citizens.”
  
  
• SEC. 899A. (4) IDEOLOGICALLY BASED VIOLENCE- The term `ideologically-based violence' means the use, planned use, or threatened use of force or violence by a group or individual to promote the group or individual's political, religious, or social beliefs.”

What do you think?

Should we be worried?

Feel free to pass this link (or the post in it's entirety) around where you like.

[osiris]

It's too late to be worried - that should have happened at about the time when Patriot Act I was being rushed through (when people were being called a terra-ist for disagreeing.)

This should be in the PL.

[peeb]

Just more Big_government_Anti-Civil_Liberties_Conservatism.

[olePigeon]

I thought "less government involvement" was supposed to be the Conservative base?

[peeb]

Me too, but that went out a long time ago...

[Big Mac]

Support the EFF.

[Doofy]

Yes, this should be in the PL.

But...

SEC. 899A. (4) IDEOLOGICALLY BASED VIOLENCE- The term `ideologically-based violence' means the use, planned use, or threatened use of force or violence by a group or individual to promote the group or individual's political, religious, or social beliefs.”

First American to not pay his taxes and then use this new legislation against the arresting parties gets many brownie points. Because surely, arresting you for not paying taxes is use of violent force to promote their (the people who believe in taxes) social beliefs.

Good luck fellas.

[Big Mac]

Yeah, but none of the restrictions imposed by Congress ever restrict the federal government, right?

[peeb]

Seems like there's no need to move this to the PL, right? We all think this sucks?

[Jawbone54]

PL, please.

But for the record, neither Democratic or Republican parties are too concerned with small government anymore.

[C.A.T.S. CEO]

So, basically it means that if you don't agree with what the government agrees as OK online, then you're silenced?

Communist China anyone?

[peeb]

Communist China is the goal of Conservative America.

[IceEnclosure]

Commerica, isn't that a Wesley Snoops flick? We NEED Wesley Snoops!!

[Tesselator]

Originally Posted by peeb 

Communist China is the goal of Conservative America.

Yeah.. We even have the One Child Policy half way implemented.



PS: Sorry about posting in the wrong place. If a mod wants to move it that would be fine.

[Shaddim]

Prepare the anal probe!









oops, is this the wrong thread?

[Cipher13]

People that follow this sorta **** have seen this happening for years and years. You're well past the point where you can "worry".

I'd advise getting the **** out before people start publicly being reprimanded for harbouring seditious thoughts.

[Shaddim]

Originally Posted by Cipher13 

People that follow this sorta **** have seen this happening for years and years. You're well past the point where you can "worry".

I'd advise getting the **** out before people start publicly being reprimanded for harbouring seditious thoughts.

That's it! No anal probe for you, mister!

[abe]

Meek as a lamb.

[Oisín]

^ Oh, shut up.

Originally Posted by Shaddim 

That's it! No anal probe for you, mister!

You're well past the point where you can "worry".

I didn’t know there was such a thing.

[abe]

Originally Posted by Oisín 

^ Oh, shut up.

"Baaaa," he bleated.

[nonhuman]

Originally Posted by Tesselator 

Yeah.. We even have the One Child Policy half way implemented.

Yeah, but at least with only One Child the OLPC program will much more easily succeed.

[olePigeon]

Originally Posted by abe 

"Baaaa," he bleated.

He's Scottish?

[abe]

Originally Posted by olePigeon 

He's Scottish?

I dunno.



Meek.

[andi*pandi]

we need a cuckoo's nest thread, I think.