[chris v]

Frank Zappa Quoth:

Some people like cupcakes better. I for one care less for them!

and:

Some people... some people like cupcakes exclusively, while myself, I say
There is naught nor ought there be nothing so exalted on the face of gods grey
Earth as that prince of foods... the muffin!

Due to Zappa's exalted status an our Foremost Muffin Authority, I have deferred to him for nigh upon 2 score and a brace of years, however, having just had The Cupcake of Enlightenment, I must now choose to differ.

Where do you, my fellow netizens, stand? Be counted!

[Shaddim]

Cupcakes, muffins be damned!

[Cold Warrior]

Cake or death?

[andi*pandi]

op: why choose?

[design219]

Cupcakes? Are you nukin futs?

[sknapp351]

Corn bread blueberry muffins cut in half and fried in butter till crispy.
SAm

[MacosNerd]

Muffins - breakfast type food.
Cupcakes - dessert type food.

That means we shouldn't need to choose.

I'll have a muffin in the AM for breakfast, and a cupcake for dessert.

[Face Ache]

Are Cherry Bakewells cupcakes? If so, put me in the cupcake camp.

I stand firm with Mr Kipling.

Muffins do not excite me.

[chris v]

Originally Posted by andi*pandi 

op: why choose?

We're all so polarized now -- i thought it was all about choosing sides, and picking winners. You mean... I could have... cupcakes... AND muffins?

BRILLIANT!

I have still had The Cupcake of Enlightenment. It was red velvet cake with cream cheese icing, and my daughter made it for me, and only charged me fifty cents!

[Oisín]

Originally Posted by MacosNerd 

Muffins - breakfast type food.
Cupcakes - dessert type food.

That means we shouldn't need to choose.

I'll have a muffin in the AM for breakfast, and a cupcake for dessert.

I’m sorry... muffins for breakfast?!?

Muffins are just as desserty as cupcakes and any other kind of cake. The only cake-like thing that works for breakfast (barely) is pastry.

I’d say muffins are more of an afternoon-tea/coffee/hot chocolate-with-freshly-baked-raisin-buns accessory, while cupcakes are more of a goes-well-on-its-own dessert.

[Eriamjh]

You put frosting on cupcakes.
You put butter on muffins.

Love 'em both.

[MacinTommy]

I like cupcakes but here is a funny muffin video.

[Oisín]

For the record:

Being Danish, I’m exempt from voting in this poll, since cupcakes and muffins are both called muffins in Danish.

Take that, Zappa!

[chris v]

Originally Posted by Oisín 

since cupcakes and muffins are both called muffins in Danish.

How on earth do you tell them apart?
"Would you like a muffin?"
"No thank you, I think I'd prefer a muffin, instead."

That'd be like if the Eskimos only had one word for snow.

[boots]

I am a red velvet cupcake fan. I am not a muffin fan.

With exception of some specific occasions when a cornbread muffin is required by grastronical law. Usually this is only invoked when collard greens and/or butter beans are present.

[Jawbone54]

Mmmm...cupcakes...

There's nothing more barbarically satisfying for me than to snatch a vanilla-icing cupcake, biting off the top half, and smacking loudly in defiance of societal norms.

It's a wonder I'm not huge.

[Oisín]

Originally Posted by chris v 

How on earth do you tell them apart?
"Would you like a muffin?"
"No thank you, I think I'd prefer a muffin, instead."

That'd be like if the Eskimos only had one word for snow.

Who says you have to tell them apart?

We’d probably do something like, “No, not the chocolate one, I wanted the blueberry one with the frosting”.

We economise with our words where we can.

With exception of some specific occasions when a cornbread muffin is required by grastronical law. Usually this is only invoked when collard greens and/or butter beans are present.

What precisely are grastronical laws? Gastronomical laws?

[Dork.]

Originally Posted by Oisín 

We’d probably do something like, “No, not the chocolate one, I wanted the blueberry one with the frosting”.

We economise with our words where we can.

That's much more economical than saying "No, not the muffin, the cupcake!".

[Oisín]

Exactly.

[Railroader]

Originally Posted by Jawbone54 

Mmmm...cupcakes...

There's nothing more barbarically satisfying for me than to snatch a vanilla-icing cupcake, biting off the top half, and smacking loudly in defiance of societal norms.

It's a wonder I'm not huge.

You of all people (considering your sig pic) should be a muffin top man!!!

The entire script for the "Muffin Top" episode; Seinfeld Lists - The Muffin Tops

[Face Ache]

Originally Posted by Oisín 

We economise with our words where we can.?

Bullshit!

^ Australian economy.

[Oisín]

Originally Posted by Face Ache 

Bullshit!

^ Australian economy.

Are you claiming my penmanship ever so occasionally might tend towards sesquipedalianism, perchance?

I never heard such nonsense in my life.

[Demonhood]

there's a cupcake shop opening here in town soon. i shall become a patron.
and like the Dane said, muffins are basically cupcakes without frosting so that people don't feel bad about eating them for breakfast. go whole hog and admit to what you're eating.

[Jawbone54]

Originally Posted by Railroader 

You of all people (considering your sig pic) should be a muffin top man!!!

The entire script for the "Muffin Top" episode; Seinfeld Lists - The Muffin Tops

By that logic, I should still be about 16 years away from even considering marriage, need to develop about 400% more neurotic hang-ups, have a complete and total resistance to natural human sympathy, and should've accidentally killed my wife (or fiance, at the time) by cheaping out on wedding invitations.



I actually don't have anything against muffins; they can be very filling.

[Face Ache]

Originally Posted by Oisín 

Are you claiming my penmanship ever so occasionally might tend towards sesquipedalianism, perchance?

Sesquidili...

Sespiupil...


No, I would never claim any such thing!

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by Oisín 

Who says you have to tell them apart?

We’d probably do something like, “No, not the chocolate one, I wanted the blueberry one with the frosting”

Blueberry cupcakes? Fo' reals?

[chris v]

Let me point out for the record, that with the overnight crowd at least, cupcakes have totally pwned the poll.

[design219]

Give the Americans time to get to the office.

[Oisín]

Originally Posted by Chuckit 

Blueberry cupcakes? Fo' reals?

Well, blueberry muffins, anyway, but they often come with frosting, so I guess that makes them cupcakes, right?

Apart from chocolate muffins (just calling everything muffins now, frosting or not), I’d say blueberry muffins are probably the most common variety here. They’re great.

[osiris]

A fresh corn muffin with butter, or a chocolate cupcake with tons of frosting... hmmm

I'm 50-50 on this issue guys. I can't do partisan on food.

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by design219 

Cupcakes? Are you nukin futs?

Seconded.

There is no substitute for winning muffins.

-t

[lavar78]

Muffins (without butter, please)

[chris v]

Okay, I'm talking strictly home-made, fresh cupcakes here.

[Dakar the Fourth]

Muffins seem too much like health food to me.

[paul w]

Muffins are denser, in my experience. A chocolate muffin is worth about 7 chocolate cupcakes. And the frosting? With cupcakes you only remember the frosting...

[Railroader]

Originally Posted by Dakar the Fourth 

Muffins seem too much like health food to me.

Especially when they have "banana" and "nut" in their description. Alas, they are simply cakes people eat at breakfast without frosting.

[lavar78]

Originally Posted by Railroader 

Especially when they have "banana" and "nut" in their description.

Mmm, banana nut muffins...

[Chuckit]

I just had a chocolate chocolate chip muffin. It was delicious.

[iM@k]

The 'REAL' sub debacle is of UK (English) Muffin vs. American Muffin (See exhibits A & B below, as well as the Aussie take on things: http://web.archive.org/web/200610291...od/muffins.htm )...let the flame fest commence.

Exhibit A "English" Muffin:


Exhinit B "American" Muffin:

[andi*pandi]

I heard that muffins were once almost in league with donuts, so I have change my vote to cupcake.

[Face Ache]

Originally Posted by iM@k 

The 'REAL' sub debacle is of UK (English) Muffin vs. American Muffin (See exhibits A & B below, as well as the Aussie take on things: http://web.archive.org/web/200610291...od/muffins.htm )...let the flame fest commence.

Exhibit A "English" Muffin:

<opens muffin vs crumpet can of worms>

[chris v]

Originally Posted by iM@k 

Exhibit A "English" Muffin:

That is not a muffin. That's an utterly tasteless "sustenance disk." If the British didn't have beer, they'd have all starved to death a thousand years ago out of sheer boredom. The only way to impart edibility to one of those... things... is to completely cover it with shaved ham, poached eggs, then drench the ensuing pile completely with hollandaise, thus masking the "flavor" of the "muffin" entirely.

A real muffin stands tall, and has whole grain and little bits of carrot in it, and hopefully, some molasses. This is at least something that can be accepted in lieu of a proper cupcake.

[lavar78]

Originally Posted by chris v 

That is not a muffin. That's an utterly tasteless "sustenance disk."

Yep, those things are gross.

[TheoCryst]

American-style blueberry (or banana-nut, depending on the day) muffin. No ifs, ands, or buts!

[Face Ache]

Originally Posted by chris v 

That is not a muffin. That's an utterly tasteless "sustenance disk." If the British didn't have beer, they'd have all starved to death a thousand years ago out of sheer boredom. The only way to impart edibility to one of those... things... is to completely cover it with shaved ham, poached eggs, then drench the ensuing pile completely with hollandaise, thus masking the "flavor" of the "muffin" entirely.

If the War of Independence was fought with muffins, the British would have won. You soft flabby Americans with your soft flabby cake-muffins.

[Oisín]

Originally Posted by chris v 

That is not a muffin. That's an utterly tasteless "sustenance disk." If the British didn't have beer, they'd have all starved to death a thousand years ago out of sheer boredom. The only way to impart edibility to one of those... things... is to completely cover it with shaved ham, poached eggs, then drench the ensuing pile completely with hollandaise, thus masking the "flavor" of the "muffin" entirely.

A real muffin stands tall, and has whole grain and little bits of carrot in it, and hopefully, some molasses. This is at least something that can be accepted in lieu of a proper cupcake.

I beg to differ—those things look absolutely scrumptious!

[turtle777]

Uhm, could anyone from England actually confirm that they call those things "English muffin" over there ?

I thought this was just the American name, and has *nothing* to do with where it came from. There are tons of American groceries and food called after origins that have little or nothing to do with reality.

E.g. Bavarian creme (donuts) - there ain't such creme in Bavaria

-t

[Oisín]

^ Or Danish pastry, which is called Vienna bread in Copenhagen and goes by yet another, completely unrelated, name in Vienna, I believe.

[Face Ache]

And freedom fries have nothing to do with freedom.

[design219]

Originally Posted by Face Ache 

And freedom fries have nothing to do with freedom.

I miss your sig.