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starman · Feb 14, 2008, 07:09 AM

Sometime between 8am and 9am EST.

scottiB · Feb 14, 2008, 08:45 AM

Up on Yahoo movies.

starman · Feb 14, 2008, 08:59 AM

720p version on :: INDIANA JONES - OFFICIAL SITE ::

analogika · Feb 14, 2008, 09:23 AM

that looks like a fun video game.

xi_hyperon · Feb 14, 2008, 11:21 AM

Meh. They spent half the trailer showing clips from the previous movies.

Norfolk Southern · Feb 14, 2008, 02:11 PM

i forgot they where making another one! (ID jones-cradle of life?)<---still awesome movie

olePigeon · Feb 14, 2008, 02:50 PM

I was thinking this is gonna be really fun seeing another Indiana Jones movie. I love the series. Then I noticed that Cate Blanchett will be in the movie. Oh dear gods this will be the best one yet.

Ghoser777 · Feb 14, 2008, 06:06 PM

Not too excited by the trailer. I mean, come on - he makes a comment before punching the bad guys out of the vehicle?

JoshuaZ · Feb 14, 2008, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by Ghoser777

Not too excited by the trailer. I mean, come on - he makes a comment before punching the bad guys out of the vehicle?

I enjoyed that! Looks to be good. Its been too long.

rickey939 · Feb 15, 2008, 08:55 AM

Hmm, not sure what to think.

voodoo · Feb 15, 2008, 09:06 AM

Spielberg doesn't bat a thousand and neither does Lucas (far from it actually), so I will reserve judgement until I see it.

Of course I'll see it, was there ever any question? This is Indiana Jones!

Rev-O · Feb 15, 2008, 09:10 AM

Very cool looking! Any clues about the timeline on this one? Have they moved Indy into the 1950's sometime?

Cold Warrior · Feb 15, 2008, 09:17 AM

If he has a grown kid, it'd have to be 20 years later perhaps?

Dakar the Fourth · Feb 15, 2008, 09:23 AM

Nah, he could have been born without Indy knowing during the original trilogy.

Paco500 · Feb 15, 2008, 09:38 AM

I believe it has advanced in quasi-real time- so like 20 years later- last one came out in 1989 I think- so yeah- 50's.

Art Vandelay · Feb 15, 2008, 09:55 AM

It has to occur before 1959 since a 48 star flag is shown in the teaser.

voodoo · Feb 15, 2008, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by Art Vandelay

It has to occur before 1959 since a 48 star flag is shown in the teaser.

Close-ups if the US flag (any version) makes me cringe and automatically lowers my opinion of that movie - unless it serves a sarcastic purpose. Then it can be forgiven.

Cold Warrior · Feb 15, 2008, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by voodoo

Close-ups if the US flag (any version) makes me cringe and automatically lowers my opinion of that movie

Why?

scottiB · Feb 15, 2008, 10:57 AM

1957.

voodoo · Feb 15, 2008, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by Cold Warrior

Why?

It's cheesy. It's not good film-making IMO. It's hardly ever a sign of a good movie. There are rare exceptions, but the cheezeness is usually too blunt to ignore.

Paco500 · Feb 15, 2008, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by voodoo

It's cheesy. It's not good film-making IMO. It's hardly ever a sign of a good movie. There are rare exceptions, but the cheezeness is usually too blunt to ignore.

To be fair, the Indiana Jones movies have always been proudly positioned as B movies with good production values. There has always been a healthy serving of cheese with these films and it's worked.

olePigeon · Feb 15, 2008, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by Ghoser777

Not too excited by the trailer. I mean, come on - he makes a comment before punching the bad guys out of the vehicle?

Who cares? Cate Blanchett is in it.

Cold Warrior · Feb 15, 2008, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by voodoo

It's cheesy. It's not good film-making IMO. It's hardly ever a sign of a good movie. There are rare exceptions, but the cheezeness is usually too blunt to ignore.

American flags are shown in countless movies. Sometimes as a sign of patriotism (within the context of the film), sometimes to provide a visual cue to spacial setting (zooming to a flag flying over a military tent, then panning down to the tent, for example), and others to cue to temporal setting (e.g., the Union flag vs Confederate in a documentary or civil war film; 48 stars on the flag in this trailer, etc.)

I'm not seeing the "rare exceptions" or any indications that it's cheesy.

But I am open to examples and statistics to back it up.

Dakar the Fourth · Feb 15, 2008, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by olePigeon

Who cares? Cate Blanchett is in it.

As a Nazi!

Originally Posted by Cold Warrior

But I am open to examples and statistics to back it up.

voodoo · Feb 15, 2008, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Cold Warrior

American flags are shown in countless movies. Sometimes as a sign of patriotism (within the context of the film), sometimes to provide a visual cue to spacial setting (zooming to a flag flying over a military tent, then panning down to the tent, for example), and others to cue to temporal setting (e.g., the Union flag vs Confederate in a documentary or civil war film; 48 stars on the flag in this trailer, etc.)

I'm not seeing the "rare exceptions" or any indications that it's cheesy.

But I am open to examples and statistics to back it up.

Are we arguing taste now? Count me out.

Cold Warrior · Feb 15, 2008, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by voodoo

Are we arguing taste now? Count me out.

Asking for examples to broad generalizations isn't arguing.

olePigeon · Feb 15, 2008, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by Dakar the Fourth

As a Nazi!

As a Russian.

Dakar the Fourth · Feb 15, 2008, 11:53 AM

Damn my memory. I thought I saw a swastika'd armband on that black outfit. Wishful thinking, I suppose.

voodoo · Feb 15, 2008, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by Cold Warrior

Asking for examples to broad generalizations isn't arguing.

True, but I wasn't generalizing. I was stating my opinion on cinema. To have an opinion on close-ups of the US flag in cinema is as strange as having an opinion about car chases in cinema.

It happens a lot.

I think it is cheezy, you don't.. fine by me.

Another example: All movies that contain one of the Gyllenhaal brats are autmatically demoted by me as well. I think they can't act their way out of a wet paper bag..

I have no statistics, but examples are: all movies they've been in.

olePigeon · Feb 15, 2008, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by voodoo

I was stating my opinion on cinema. To have an opinion on close-ups of the US flag in cinema is as strange as having an opinion about car chases in cinema.

Yeah, but you have to admit, Ronin has the best car chase scene EVER.

voodoo · Feb 15, 2008, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by olePigeon

Yeah, but you have to admit, Ronin has the best car chase scene EVER.

Worth the price of admission!

Shaddim · Feb 15, 2008, 01:01 PM

Looks like a good popcorn flick, just like the others. Should be fun.

ghporter · Feb 15, 2008, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by voodoo

It's cheesy. It's not good film-making IMO. It's hardly ever a sign of a good movie. There are rare exceptions, but the cheezeness is usually too blunt to ignore.

Consider the utility of what is called an "establishing shot." These are usually done to show where the upcoming scenes are set, but by using a particularly time-centered item like a 48-star U.S. flag, the shot can do more and show WHEN as well.

But as for worrying about all the details being accurate for a specific time in an Indy movie, please note that in the first one, set in 1936, they showed the Pan Am Clipper flying over the Golden Gate bridge (which was not completed until 1937) and the Nazis used MP38 (and sometimes MP40) sub-machine guns which were introduced in 1938 and 1940 respectively. Oh, and the German "flying wing" airplane wasn't what you'd call "historically accurate" either. It was great fun, but not history. "The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles" was produced with significantly better attention to historical detail and accuracy, but the theatrical films are intended for fun, not history lessons.

voodoo · Feb 15, 2008, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by ghporter

Consider the utility of what is called an "establishing shot." These are usually done to show where the upcoming scenes are set, but by using a particularly time-centered item like a 48-star U.S. flag, the shot can do more and show WHEN as well.

In my experience, movies that use the US flag in an establishing shot, aren't very original and tend to take them far more seriously than they deserve.

Much like all movies that have David Warner somehow end up as flops and/or really really bad.

Link to master Warner: David Warner (I)

ghporter · Feb 15, 2008, 05:44 PM

voodoo, can you post ANYTHING without being totally negative? Particularly about the United States?

turtle777 · Feb 15, 2008, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by ghporter

voodoo, can you post ANYTHING without being totally negative? Particularly about the United States?

Yes, voodoo is a Packers fan, and Green Bay is in the US, albeit, barely

-t

voodoo · Feb 15, 2008, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by turtle777

Yes, voodoo is a Packers fan, and Green Bay is in the US, albeit, barely

-t

Yeah I'm a huge Packers fan and watch the NFL and spread gospel of the all-American sport to the otherwise soccer-uber-alles crowds over here --- with some success I might add!

Farvre is just so cool and Driver, Bigby, Kampman, Bush, Woodson and all the rest.. darn it's so long until next season.

voodoo · Feb 15, 2008, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by ghporter

voodoo, can you post ANYTHING without being totally negative? Particularly about the United States?

I could but then I'd be criticized for having a Pollyanna syndrome..

(btw I have nothing against the US! I prefer Apple products, NFL, thanksgiving-style turkey, American trucks and Hollwood movies -- hello?!?)

ghporter · Feb 15, 2008, 09:01 PM

It certainly doesn't sound like you like the U.S. from the way you're posting. Who'd call you a Pollyanna, anyway?

I disagree with you on a lot of things you've said, but that's not the point. The attitude that comes across lately isn't the same as what I think of as your normal attitude; you're usually not 100% negative all day long...

voodoo · Feb 16, 2008, 05:25 AM

Originally Posted by ghporter

It certainly doesn't sound like you like the U.S. from the way you're posting. Who'd call you a Pollyanna, anyway?

I disagree with you on a lot of things you've said, but that's not the point. The attitude that comes across lately isn't the same as what I think of as your normal attitude; you're usually not 100% negative all day long...

I am not sure I understand the second paragraph of your post. Could you explain?

As for the first paragraph, I disagree. If I wouldn't like the US, then I'd say I didn't like the US. However I've clearly written that I do like the US -- so I'd say from the way I'm posting it sounds like I like the US.

Also I think you are interpreting criticism as negativity. We're talking about movies here not the US in particular.

turtle777 · Feb 16, 2008, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by voodoo

However I've clearly written that I do like the US -- so I'd say from the way I'm posting it sounds like I like the US.

No doubt, you like the US...

... as an object of bashing ?!?!

-t

SpaceMonkey · Feb 16, 2008, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by analogika

that looks like a fun video game.

Yeah, that CGI cliff in the car chase was cringe-worthy.

voodoo · Feb 16, 2008, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by turtle777

No doubt, you like the US...

... as an object of bashing ?!?!

-t

Pff I even use US spelling, which I prefer over UK spelling and I even speak with a slight US accent.

Stogieman · Feb 16, 2008, 03:10 PM

A Wisconsin accent?

turtle777 · Feb 16, 2008, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by Stogieman

A Wisconsin accent?

Don't hold your breath

-t

Stogieman · Feb 16, 2008, 07:37 PM

Did anyone notice the box with the label "Roswell, New Mexico" on it?

Plus the pair of glasses on the box that are smashed look suspiciously like the ones a certain Jones Snr. would wear...

Brien · Feb 16, 2008, 10:19 PM

Lucas said in Vanity Fair that this flick would be 'retro sci-fi'.

voodoo · Feb 17, 2008, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by Stogieman

A Wisconsin accent?

Ha ha

residentEvil · Feb 17, 2008, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by Stogieman

Did anyone notice the box with the label "Roswell, New Mexico" on it?

Plus the pair of glasses on the box that are smashed look suspiciously like the ones a certain Jones Snr. would wear...

that is the box of goodies recovered from the famous UFO crash...july 1947. if you believe that stuff

harbinger75 · Feb 17, 2008, 10:30 AM

I'm looking forward to it. I like sci-fi and adventure movies immensely, even the B-rated ones. The Indiana Jones series is one of my favorites of all time.

Indy will be noticeably older, but I'm sure I'll still enjoy it.