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Mar 5, 2008, 03:36 PM
 
Marine throws puppy over cliff. (Disturbing content)

I think that marine should get 10 to 15 in the brig.

     
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Mar 5, 2008, 03:37 PM
 
Uh, yeah, in the last few DAYS since this was posted, it's been found that the whole thing might be fake.
     
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Mar 5, 2008, 03:37 PM
 
Is bastard censored here?
     
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Mar 5, 2008, 03:39 PM
 
How is it fake? I saw the marine pick up a dog and throw it.

It's not a funny "joke."

Just watched it again and yep, he threw the puppy head over heels through the air.

Not a hoax and not funny. The dog is yelping.
     
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Mar 5, 2008, 03:43 PM
 
I don't think it's real, ♥. If it had been real, the cameraman would not have conveniently allowed the guy's hand to be obscured for seconds before the throw. It was a stuffed animal, IMO.

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Mar 5, 2008, 03:45 PM
 
"Watch the clip closely. The puppy doesn’t move. It’s clear to me that it’s either dead or a stuffed toy. The sound effects of a dog yapping seem to have been dubbed in."

Michelle Malkin » Soldiers and puppies: Two narratives Update: Marines in Honolulu investigating; Update Possible ID on the thrower
     
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Mar 5, 2008, 03:46 PM
 
Originally Posted by ♥ View Post
How is it fake? I saw the marine pick up a dog and throw it.

It's not a funny "joke."

Just watched it again and yep, he threw the puppy head over heels through the air.

Not a hoax and not funny. The dog is yelping.
Oh, come on. Just because it's on youtube doesn't mean it's real.
     
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Mar 5, 2008, 03:52 PM
 
OK, so even if that's fake, this isn't:

Child beheaded in supermarket (Warning: Explicit content) - New Zealand's source for World News on Stuff.co.nz
A man reportedly held a knife to the throat of his 15-month-old nephew and decapitated him in front of his mother in a Saudi Arabian supermarket.
People like this test my stance on the death penalty, I tell ya.
     
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Mar 5, 2008, 03:56 PM
 
Don't worry, Doofy, I'm sure that killing was fully in accordance with that wonderful legal system known as Sharia. Coming to a country all too near you, courtesy of Islam.

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Mar 5, 2008, 04:03 PM
 
wtf, I don't want to click.
     
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Mar 5, 2008, 04:05 PM
 
I'm feeding my dogs roast turkey and hard boiled eggs right now.

Can't imagine someone doing that to a poor defenseless dog much less a human being.
     
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Mar 5, 2008, 04:15 PM
 
Wait Doofy isn't pro-death penalty?
     
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Mar 5, 2008, 04:16 PM
 
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Mar 5, 2008, 04:16 PM
 
Surely it's fake. Has to be...
     
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Mar 5, 2008, 04:19 PM
 
Originally Posted by Big Mac View Post
Don't worry, Doofy, I'm sure that killing was fully in accordance with that wonderful legal system known as Sharia. Coming to a country all too near you, courtesy of Islam.
Way to open a can of worms with an inflamatory and incredibly simplistic statement. Yay!
     
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Mar 5, 2008, 04:30 PM
 
Originally Posted by ♥ View Post
I'm feeding my dogs roast turkey and hard boiled eggs right now.

Can't imagine someone doing that to a poor defenseless dog much less a human being.
I agree. All dogs should be strict vegetarians.

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Mar 5, 2008, 04:32 PM
 
Jesus, that was sick.
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Mar 5, 2008, 04:39 PM
 
If it IS true, I suggest they throw the marine off the same spot to go look for the dog... and tie HIS arms and legs together.

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Mar 5, 2008, 04:59 PM
 
Originally Posted by paul w View Post
Way to open a can of worms with an inflamatory and incredibly simplistic statement. Yay!
Hey, this thread is bound for the political lounge anyway, so I figured what the heck.

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Mar 5, 2008, 05:32 PM
 
I don't see how politics have anything to do with it?

It's some sicko pretending to be a man when in actuality he's a sick bastard coward.
     
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Mar 5, 2008, 05:36 PM
 
He's a batstatrd?

Anyway, I guess we'll find out soon enough whether or not it was real. I don't know. My gut says fake, and I find that a more pleasant reality, so I'm going to go with that for the moment.
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Mar 5, 2008, 06:04 PM
 
Must confess - too chicken to watch.
     
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Mar 5, 2008, 07:28 PM
 
Wow, thats so obviously fake it hurts. Puppies, particularly when picked up by the neck, are not inanimate. Thats the first tip off. The second is the one frame when he's winding up the throw and tilts it back.. yet it shows no movement or bending that you would expect from an animal held by its neck.
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Mar 5, 2008, 07:29 PM
 
Originally Posted by Big Mac View Post
Don't worry, Doofy, I'm sure that killing was fully in accordance with that wonderful legal system known as Sharia. Coming to a country all too near you, courtesy of Islam.
Guess you didn't read the part at the bottom of the article where it said the guy was arrested and will probably get beheaded (thus prompting Doofy's comment about the death penalty).

Save it for the political lounge.

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Mar 5, 2008, 07:37 PM
 
So if it is fake... what's the joke? Oh I didn't really throw a puppy? haha funny guy!
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Mar 5, 2008, 07:45 PM
 
Pretending to do mean things is often considered funny. In fact, it's the basis of practical jokes.
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Mar 5, 2008, 07:51 PM
 
More info:

From David Motari 'the Puppy Killer' MySpace page:

MySpace...

http://infowars.com/images/motari.jpg

"I want to say first of all that I am really sorry for the whole puppy thing. I don't know why people are so pissed. It was a ****ING STRAY!!! Get the **** over it! You know how many people I see get blown away on a regular basis?!?! **** Man Not only the towle heads out here but my own friends!"

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David Motari 'the Puppy Killer' just updated his MySpace page:

"I want to clear somethings up before tomarrow. This might be hard to believe but I am sorry about the dog. At the time I just really didn't care. When you are constantly under fire sometimes people develope a different sence of humor than what others are used to. That video was from over a year ago and i dont know who put it out there but it wasn't me. It has been a real hard day. I don't know how they got my information but someone got all my information and i had to disconnect my parents and my girlfriends phone. not to mention i had to redo my myspace because it got hacked. I just want this to end."

And:

"What, you expect me to carry a stray sick dog from patrol 10+ miles back to camp with me. Did you know that we're not supposed to have dogs? Did you know that there isn't medicine available for animals out there? So what the **** do you want me to do with it. It was going to die a slow and horrible death.

Sorry you guys saw that, but it wasn't supposed to ever been shown. Usually what happens is we shoot them. I was being "creative" that day and decided to throw the dog instead. If i could take it back, I would. Either way, I did the dog a favor. Sorry if you can't understand that."

AND:

"Look, you guys didn't know that the dog was sick and starving by the road. I was helping it. That dog was going to die anyways"

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Michelle Malkin says:

Michelle Malkin » 2008 » March » 03...

"The puppy doesn't move. It's clear to me that it's either dead or a stuffed toy. The sound effects of a dog yapping seem to have been dubbed in"

~ But Michelle Malkin is wrong because the Marine Killer that killed the Puppy said:
"I am really sorry for the whole puppy thing. I don't know why people are so pissed. It was a ****ING STRAY!!! Get the **** over it!"

~ So he admits to the facts that the Puppy was alive when he threw it off the cliff.

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Mar 5, 2008, 07:58 PM
 
Warning: That last link contains a large number of very disturbing videos.

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Mar 5, 2008, 08:01 PM
 
Originally Posted by invisibleX View Post
Wow, thats so obviously fake it hurts. Puppies, particularly when picked up by the neck, are not inanimate. Thats the first tip off. The second is the one frame when he's winding up the throw and tilts it back.. yet it shows no movement or bending that you would expect from an animal held by its neck.
Sorry, but it appears you are wrong.

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Mar 5, 2008, 08:02 PM
 
Originally Posted by ♥ View Post
Marine throws puppy over cliff. (Disturbing content)

I think that marine should get 10 to 15 in the brig.

Hell, he doesn't deserve that. I think he should get thrown off a cliff. ****ing asshole.
     
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Mar 5, 2008, 08:09 PM
 
Originally Posted by Big Mac View Post
Don't worry, Doofy, I'm sure that killing was fully in accordance with that wonderful legal system known as Sharia. Coming to a country all too near you, courtesy of Islam.
How do you know it wasn't just a fake and a joke? Could have been a baby doll.

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Mar 5, 2008, 08:23 PM
 
Puppies, particularly when picked up by the neck, are not inanimate.
Have you ever actually had a dog with puppies? Picking a puppy up by the neck is the best way to insure that they are inanimate. That goes for puppies, kittens, piglets, hampster pups, even ratlets and mouslets (or whatever the young of rats and mice are called).
     
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Mar 5, 2008, 08:43 PM
 
Hey guys, let's make a video of me throwing a fake puppy all to hell and mention my name so my family back home in Snohomish will get death threats and need 24 hour police protection. Wouldn't that be the shizznyk.
     
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Mar 5, 2008, 10:21 PM
 
I want this to be fake so bad.
     
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Mar 5, 2008, 10:38 PM
 
Originally Posted by stevesnj View Post
So if it is fake... what's the joke? Oh I didn't really throw a puppy? haha funny guy!
The link above is missing the first 5 minutes of the video where he tricks the puppy into thinking he got an xBox 360 for Christmas.

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Mar 6, 2008, 01:38 AM
 
That looked real to me. I was really, really, really hoping that it was fake, but I have never seen a stuffed animal look that realistic.
And if you pause it when his hand goes back to throw, as the arm is going forward, it still looks like a real puppy. It's the shape of the animal that makes me think that it is real.
Animal cruelty laws need to be much stronger everywhere.
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Mar 6, 2008, 02:18 AM
 
Considering the guy who did it admitted to it being real, It's probably safe to say that it isn't fake by now.

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Mar 6, 2008, 04:06 AM
 
Those of us that aren't obsessed with animals chuckled at that video. Its probably fake. Too bad it wasn't real, and a cat. That would be a great video!
     
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Originally Posted by - - e r i k - - View Post
Considering the guy who did it admitted to it being real, It's probably safe to say that it isn't fake by now.
Did he? I haven't yet found any sources I trust that claim so.
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Originally Posted by Chuckit View Post
Did he? I haven't yet found any sources I trust that claim so.
His very own MySpace page wasn't a trusted source? He made several comments on it as he received threats from everywhere.

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Mar 6, 2008, 08:11 AM
 
Apparently he also threw another puppy up in the air and shot it in the air also, according to another report.

The guy is a sicko and deserves to go to prison for it.

And what about WHY they videotaped it? What's with that?
     
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Mar 6, 2008, 08:44 AM
 
It never ceases to amaze me how so many overreact to story's like this.

Yes, I think he has problems. Yes, he's a dick. Yes he's immature. Yes he should receive some sort of punishment if that's what the Military code says.

What I don't get is how in the hell does a puppy killer deserve 15 YEARS? Or to be thrown off of a cliff? Death threats? Really…WTF?

I know I am pretty much alone here, not many want to stick their necks out and say anything that could be viewed as siding with a puppy killer. But you guys are ridiculous. You sound like a bunch of self-righteous assholes.

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Mar 6, 2008, 09:04 AM
 
Mothers, their kids, the old get blown to smithereens but G*d help us should a dog happen to get killed.
Seems to me that a lot of people have their priorities all ****ed up.
     
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Originally Posted by smacintush View Post
Do me a favor, do us ALL a favor. This year, stay home on election day. Thanks.
You know, I was fine with the rest of your post, but how does this part not make you come off as a self-righteous asshole yourself?
     
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Mar 6, 2008, 09:47 AM
 
Dakar, you're absolutely right about that ^^^ post.

Sure, it was *only* a dog and not a human being.

But what about the shrinks and data that show that people who abuse and kill animals are quite likely to do the same to human beings? I'm sure that the guy who did this (don't want to call him a soldier because he doesn't deserve that distinction) is probably guilty of mistreating and/or killing people also.
     
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Originally Posted by Mastrap View Post
Mothers, their kids, the old get blown to smithereens but G*d help us should a dog happen to get killed.
Seems to me that a lot of people have their priorities all ****ed up.
I don't agree with that entirely. I also imagine there'd be more outrage if the soldier threw a baby or child or woman or man off a cliff.

Yes, people get pretty emotional about this. A lot of people take exception to when something/one with no ability to defend itself is mistreated for no reason.

Unlike people getting blown up, the puppy doesn't have the cognitive ability to recognize it's in a bad situation and leave.
     
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Mar 6, 2008, 09:57 AM
 
So you can't throw puppies off cliffs anymore?

It's political correctness gone mad.
     
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Originally Posted by ♥ View Post
Sure, it was *only* a dog and not a human being.

But what about the shrinks and data that show that people who abuse and kill animals are quite likely to do the same to human beings? I'm sure that the guy who did this (don't want to call him a soldier because he doesn't deserve that distinction) is probably guilty of mistreating and/or killing people also.
QFT.

You can tell a lot about a person by how he treats animals. It's a given that we don't want humans mistreated (except those who deserve it, obviously) but it's when we start thinking that animals have lesser rights to life than us that we start getting into the realms of unfounded superiority complexes.

Sure, the animals don't design weapons of mass destruction with which to annihilate each other or other such markers of civilisation but that doesn't make them any less worthy of life, does it?
     
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Mar 6, 2008, 09:59 AM
 
Originally Posted by Apemanblues View Post
So you can't throw puppies off cliffs anymore?

It's political correctness gone mad.
Everyone forgets about the Negro Puppy Throwing leagues of the 1930s. Hell, Thomas Jefferson was known to toss a pup or two back in his day.
     
 
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