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Mar 11, 2008, 07:38 AM
 
Let's Stereotype People by Jobs, Pastimes & Hobbies

We have learned that it's bad to stereotype people by their race or religion, gender, sexual orientation, national origin, region of the country where they grew up (in certain cases) or physical features or deformities and the like.

But, while it's still possible, let's see if we can stereotype people by their jobs and pastimes or hobbies.

Here, as an example of what I mean, Triumph stereotypes Star Wars and Lord of the Rings and Star Trek fans as being nerds and geeks.

MilkandCookies - Triumph vs Star Wars Geeks

Triumph, the Insult Comic Dog is a puppet created and performed by Robert Smigel premiering in 1997 on NBC's Late Night with Conan O'Brien best known for mocking celebrities. Triumph was identified in the early appearances as a Serbian Mountain Hound. Triumph often puffs a cigar, which usually falls out of his mouth when he begins speaking. The crudeness of the puppetry behind Triumph — Smigel's arm is often clearly visible in the shot — has added to the character's popularity. Triumph, the Insult Comic Dog - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Another example of stereotyping people by their job, pastime or hobby would be the people who post at online forums devoted to maintaining and promoting the legal right to open carry firearms. They seem to have chips on their shoulders and are looking to provoke confrontations with Law Enforcement so they can trump the cop by citing the letter of the law when they are stopped.

A third example of stereotyping people by their job, pastime or hobby would be stand up comics. They are often really bitter.

And I am not quite sure about it yet but I've gotten the impression that many journalists are cynical, frustrated and emotionally insecure.

But the stereotypes you post needn't be negative ones, even though the examples I've cited, which may be completely wrong, happen to be so.

Comments on those I've listed is acceptable unless or until we go too far away from the idea of stereotyping people by their jobs, pastimes or hobbies.
America should know the political orientation of government officials who might be in a position to adversely influence the future of this country. http://tinyurl.com/4vucu5
     
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Mar 11, 2008, 07:50 AM
 
Call Bowie - he's an expert on being stereotyped by the types of jobs he's done as an actor.
     
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Mar 11, 2008, 08:03 AM
 
You don't need to stereotype me - I've already done it for you!
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Mar 11, 2008, 09:19 AM
 
What about when someone mashes a bunch of stereotypes together? Straight, military veteran, healthcare worker in a predominantly female profession with (almost!) a graduate degree. That just shatters so many professional stereotypes all by itself.

I've known a number of male nurses, and of the roughly 20 of them, only one was (probably) gay; that particular stereotype is pretty much rubbish by now anyway. Texas IS full of steers and queers, but it's a BIG state, and while there may be as many steers as people, the queer ones are a tiny minority (both cattle and people). One of the best looking women I ever met was a professional-level match shooter; she could hit a bowling pin at 50 yards with a .45 without trying hard. Filled out a pair of jeans nicely too.

As long as we KNOW we're using these stereotypes you recommend, abe, that's cool; it allows us to intelligently make decisions based on expectations, without accidentally clouding our perceptions with those expectations. But I think it's obvious that David Bowie is a talented actor, despite the Hollywood idiots that pigeonhole him in "weirdo" roles. William Shatner is too, in spite of being stereotyped as an overactor-take a look at his Emmys for Boston Legal some time. Doofy....well he HAS stereotyped himself in a number of areas, but that's the personal HE wants us to see. We actually NEED stereotypes in order to deal with novel situations, but only as tools...
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Originally Posted by ghporter View Post
Doofy....well he HAS stereotyped himself in a number of areas, but that's the personal HE wants us to see.
Point of order!

It's not what I want you to see - it's just how I actually am - I live the stereotype. Shallow, I know. Shallow but good.

To me, stereotypes can be pretty accurate because they're defined by the personality makeup of the person involved - behind the obvious facades there's some sturdy sociological reasons why stereotypes exist. For example, there's no point in being the quarterback and not getting it on with the head cheerleader and drinking loads of beer, is there?

I'm reminded of an age old question. Does playing the drums turn people into nutjobs or are nutjobs attracted to playing the drums?

Does the stereotype make the participant, or do the participants make the stereotype?
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Mar 11, 2008, 11:16 AM
 
Originally Posted by Doofy View Post
You don't need to stereotype me - I've already done it for you!
Uh huh.

     
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Mar 11, 2008, 11:21 AM
 
Hey Tire, why don't you follow me around on a noticeboard for a bit so you can maintain your stereotype of being a boring little turd?
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Originally Posted by Doofy View Post
I'm reminded of an age old question. Does playing the drums turn people into nutjobs or are nutjobs attracted to playing the drums?
Am I a nutjob?

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I'm reminded of an age old question. Does playing the drums turn people into nutjobs or are nutjobs attracted to playing the drums?
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Am I a nutjob?
I wouldn't worry about it, Laminar. Doofy's post is a fallacy of presupposition and a false dichotomy all rolled into one. Perhaps satyriasis is symptomised by sloppy thinking.
     
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It's called "humour".

Keep reinforcing your stereotype, Tire.
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Originally Posted by Tiresias View Post
I wouldn't worry about it, Laminar. Doofy's post is a fallacy of presupposition and a false dichotomy all rolled into one. Perhaps satyriasis is symptomised by sloppy thinking.
You should be prescribed to treat insomnia

I'm a Carpenter and I own a pickup truck, stereotype away!
     
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Mar 11, 2008, 12:28 PM
 
I like the places this thread is headed.
     
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Mar 11, 2008, 12:31 PM
 
Straight to the top...or bottom, whichever is funnier.
     
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Mar 11, 2008, 12:40 PM
 
Originally Posted by sek929 View Post
I'm a Carpenter and I own a pickup truck, stereotype away!
Well since we're stereotyping, as a Carpenter, I'm guessing you look like this....

 
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Mar 11, 2008, 12:43 PM
 
Congrats for finding their very worst picture, doc!

To be honest, I half expected a picture of a guy with long hair, a beard, sandals and a robe-you know, the kind of guy that most churches wouldn't let in the door...


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I have long hair, can't grow a respectable beard, own Teva sandals, and am robe-less.

Guess I'm only half-messiah.
The bottom half, oh yeah
     
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Originally Posted by sek929 View Post
I have long hair, can't grow a respectable beard, own Teva sandals, and am robe-less.

Guess I'm only half-messiah.
The bottom half, oh yeah
Probably only half meshuga, too. That's a plus.
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I can't think of a more unattractive form of footwear than tevas. They also scream 'stuck in 1994' to me.
     
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Mar 11, 2008, 03:30 PM
 
Well, there goes our date.

Anyone else want to go see The Mask with me?
     
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I'm sure tire will want to subego
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Originally Posted by Dakar the Fourth View Post
I can't think of a more unattractive form of footwear than tevas. They also scream 'stuck in 1994' to me.
I dunno, have you seen Birkenstocks? Eww.
     
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Originally Posted by Dakar the Fourth View Post
I can't think of a more unattractive form of footwear than tevas. They also scream 'stuck in 1994' to me.
That was a good year.

I don't wear them anyways, but I still have them around here somewhere (I think)
     
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Tevas are far worse. I will not compromise on this.
     
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Originally Posted by Doofy View Post
I'm reminded of an age old question. Does playing the drums turn people into nutjobs or are nutjobs attracted to playing the drums?

Does the stereotype make the participant, or do the participants make the stereotype?
My wife has made this observation multiple times as well. It is an enigma.

I am a missionary who works in a group home.

For hobbies I like to race RC cars, woodworking, and photography. But not at the same time.
     
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Originally Posted by Laminar View Post
Am I a nutjob?
     
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Originally Posted by Railroader View Post
I like missionary and group.
The truth comes out, 'woodworking' that's what you crazy adults are calling it these days.
     
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Originally Posted by sek929 View Post
The truth comes out, 'woodworking' that's what you crazy adults are calling it these days.
You make me sad.

Is it "National Pick On Railroader Day" and I missed the memo?
     
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Mar 11, 2008, 04:24 PM
 
Pull that cross out of your ass and relax.

Have a beer!
     
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The memo also included info about "NPORD."

If we gain enough momentum it might be a week-long event! National Pick On Railroader Spring Break! Wooo!
     
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Originally Posted by analogika View Post
Pull that cross out of your ass and relax.

Have a beer!
I doubt he was bent out of shape, me and Rail are like this <crosses toes>
     
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Originally Posted by analogika View Post
Pull that cross out of your ass and relax.
But how else is he to do the woodworking?
     
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Mar 11, 2008, 05:18 PM
 
i'm sure he has plenty more up there if he pulls out just one
     
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Mar 11, 2008, 06:03 PM
 
I - of course - do not belong in any sterotyping.

Jobs/Education: professional Tennis player in the WTA for a few years, pharmaceutical assistant (first degree), Philologist, Philosopher, Literature (2nd degree), now a graphic designer and web-developer (third degree). Contemplating on becoming an author (that'd be fourth then).

Hobbies: Literature, literature, and literature, philosophy, programming/script/markup languages, music, drawing comics/sketches.

Pastimes: day-dreaming (I once got dragged under a large caterpillar while walking through the camp in the Libyan desert as a kid - I think that level of stupidity is hard to beat, considering the location and about a dozen vehicles around the entire desert camp), watching British Comedy. I'm a 'fantasist' over and over. Yes, I know fantasist isn't a word. If it were, it'd be the word I want.

I wonder where that'd put me in. I'd probably fit into the "I-have-not-yet-found-my-place-in-the-world" stereotype.
     
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Originally Posted by analogika View Post
Pull that cross out of your ass and relax.

Have a beer!
Read Sek929's next post.

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Mar 11, 2008, 06:49 PM
 
Ha! I've got you pegged Faust.

You're in the "people who don't know that 'fantasist' is a real word" stereotype.



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Originally Posted by sek929 View Post
The memo also included info about "NPORD."

If we gain enough momentum it might be a week-long event! National Pick On Railroader Spring Break! Wooo!
Just don't make it like a Chinese calendar thing. You know "Year of the Pick on Railroader year" or some such. I'd have to change nicks or something like that.
     
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Originally Posted by Faust View Post
I - of course - do not belong in any sterotyping.

Jobs/Education: professional Tennis player in the WTA for a few years, pharmaceutical assistant (first degree), Philologist, Philosopher, Literature (2nd degree), now a graphic designer and web-developer (third degree). Contemplating on becoming an author (that'd be fourth then).

Hobbies: Literature, literature, and literature, philosophy, programming/script/markup languages, music, drawing comics/sketches.

Pastimes: day-dreaming (I once got dragged under a large caterpillar while walking through the camp in the Libyan desert as a kid - I think that level of stupidity is hard to beat, considering the location and about a dozen vehicles around the entire desert camp), watching British Comedy. I'm a 'fantasist' over and over. Yes, I know fantasist isn't a word. If it were, it'd be the word I want.

I wonder where that'd put me in. I'd probably fit into the "I-have-not-yet-found-my-place-in-the-world" stereotype.
Grass is Greener-type.
     
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Originally Posted by brassplayersrock² View Post
i'm sure he has plenty more up there if he pulls out just one
LOLZERZ!!AHALOL!1! caps

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Mar 11, 2008, 07:02 PM
 
Okay, someone stereotype me.

I'm a caucasian male in my early 20s. I am going to college to be a mechanical engineer. My hobbies include working on my kick-ass car, playing guitar, piano, and drums, cooking, playing sports, and dating sorority girls.

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Originally Posted by Laminar View Post
Okay, someone stereotype me.

I'm a caucasian male in my early 20s. I am going to college to be a mechanical engineer. My hobbies include working on my kick-ass car, playing guitar, piano, and drums, cooking, playing sports, and dating sorority girls.
     
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Originally Posted by Laminar View Post
Okay, someone stereotype me.

I'm a caucasian male in my early 20s. I am going to college to be a mechanical engineer. My hobbies include working on my kick-ass car, playing guitar, piano, and drums, cooking, playing sports, and dating sorority girls.
Preppie.

(You know, since your car isn't actually a Corvette or Charger and you're not the quarterback)

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he said dating GIRLS. can't you read?
     
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Originally Posted by Doofy View Post
Ha! I've got you pegged Faust.

You're in the "people who don't know that 'fantasist' is a real word" stereotype.



I know, I know. I can't even count to ten in German.
Ha! I should have looked the word up in the dictionary first.

No worries about not being able to count to ten in German. You're in good company with 90% of the German population.
     
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Ok, try me! Try me...

I'm a caucasian male in my middle 30s. Married for 3 years now (or is it 4?).
Got a degree as an Librarian - haven't worked as one for 7 years. I'm now working as a customer care consultant and a coach in the Telecoms area.
My hobbies include beer tasting, IT and house renovating.
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