[Eug]

How very lame.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/indepth/oly...mony_song_fake

Photographs of Lin in a bright red party dress were published in newspapers and websites all over the world and the official China Daily hailed her as a rising star on Tuesday.

But Chen said the girl whose voice was actually heard by the 91,000 capacity crowd at the Olympic stadium during the spectacular ceremony was in fact seven-year-old Yang Peiyi, who has a chubby face and uneven teeth.

"A number of girls were on the short list for the show and Lin was the best actress while Yang had the best voice," he said. "So at the end of the day they decided to have both."

Also:

Supposedly live pictures of fireworks depicting footprints moving from central Beijing's Tiananmen Square to the Olympic stadium in the north of the capital were actually partly computer-generated or pre-recorded for TV, organisers have admitted.

Wang Wei, vice president of the organising committee, Tuesday insisted the fireworks had actually exploded on the night and that most of the television images used were genuine.

"However, because of the poor visibility of the night some previously recorded foots may have been used," he said.

Heh. Great way to generate bad publicity.

Too bad too, cuz the rest of the parts I saw were absolutely spectacular. They didn't need to fake this stuff.

[Andrew Stephens]

Originally Posted by Eug 

How very lame.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/indepth/oly...mony_song_fake

Photographs of Lin in a bright red party dress were published in newspapers and websites all over the world and the official China Daily hailed her as a rising star on Tuesday.

But Chen said the girl whose voice was actually heard by the 91,000 capacity crowd at the Olympic stadium during the spectacular ceremony was in fact seven-year-old Yang Peiyi, who has a chubby face and uneven teeth.

"A number of girls were on the short list for the show and Lin was the best actress while Yang had the best voice," he said. "So at the end of the day they decided to have both."

Also:

Supposedly live pictures of fireworks depicting footprints moving from central Beijing's Tiananmen Square to the Olympic stadium in the north of the capital were actually partly computer-generated or pre-recorded for TV, organisers have admitted.

Wang Wei, vice president of the organising committee, Tuesday insisted the fireworks had actually exploded on the night and that most of the television images used were genuine.

"However, because of the poor visibility of the night some previously recorded foots may have been used," he said.

Heh. Great way to generate bad publicity.

Too bad too, cuz the rest of the parts I saw were absolutely spectacular. They didn't need to fake this stuff.

only in Amer..China

[starman]

The footprints were said to be fake ON THE BROADCAST.

Nothing to see here.

[Stogieman]

Wow. Now I'm wonder how much of that impressive drumming at the beginning of the ceremony was actually real?

[- - e r i k - -]

Yeah. Some of those fireworks were clearly computer generated. I thought that was pretty obvious and didn't seem to be implied real to me.

[- - e r i k - -]

The voice thing is much more disappointing though, but a minor detraction from an altogether impressive ceremony.

[imitchellg5]

Originally Posted by starman 

The footprints were said to be fake ON THE BROADCAST.

Nothing to see here.

Yeah, um they stated pretty clearly that the footprints were CG. I thought in the first shot they showed of the girl that she looked like she was lip syncing.

[rickey939]

[Eriamjh]

China is an effing communist country. The government lies to its citizens. It lies to everyone else. It is no different from Russia was. Propaganda galore.

But we stupid americans send our jobs and money their so we can have cheap crap-ass toys and tools and just about anything cheap. No wonder they can afford to put on a hell of a show, real or not.

Is anyone really surprised?

(Do I seem upset?)

[Mastrap]

The whole CG fake stuff has soured the opening for me. Just makes it look like many, many things that come out of China these days - all show and no substance.

[Oisín]

Originally Posted by Mastrap 

The whole CG fake stuff has soured the opening for me. Just makes it look like many, many things that come out of China these days - all show and no substance.

The entire Olympics and the five years they’ve spent intensely preparing for them have been very little other than all show and no substance. The Olympic City is a piece of crap that’s bound to be doomed for abandonment in a few years; Beijing has been half torn down and a shoddier, faker version built in its place; and so on.

It might be good for the economy, but hosting the Olympics is about the worst thing that’s happened to Beijing in a long time.

[Randman]

Originally Posted by Eriamjh 

China is an effing communist country. The government lies to its citizens. It lies to everyone else. It is no different from Russia was. Propaganda galore.

But we stupid americans send our jobs and money their so we can have cheap crap-ass toys and tools and just about anything cheap. No wonder they can afford to put on a hell of a show, real or not.

Is anyone really surprised?

(Do I seem upset?)

Every government lies to its citizens. And Americans should be capitalized. Ranting about "stupid americans" is ironic.

[Kerrigan]

Oisin: I noticed that the same thing has happened in other Olympic cities. They build acres and acres of shoddy hotels, venues are created that will have no potential after the games are over, and the infrastructure in general is not great.

[Eug]

Originally Posted by Oisín 

It might be good for the economy, but hosting the Olympics is about the worst thing that’s happened to Beijing in a long time.

Unlikely. The Olympics are a huge boost to Beijing, no matter how jaded a look you might take.

[Maflynn]

Much Ado about nothing if you ask me. So they "improved" the fireworks, who cares. Visually speaking it was striking regardless if it was made inside a computer. The whole opening ceremony was over the top, other nations will probably not even come close to the what the Chinese pulled off with the opening ceremony.

[Eug]

Originally Posted by Maflynn 

Much Ado about nothing if you ask me. So they "improved" the fireworks, who cares. Visually speaking it was striking regardless if it was made inside a computer. The whole opening ceremony was over the top, other nations will probably not even come close to the what the Chinese pulled off with the opening ceremony.

Which makes the faking all the more stupid. Instead of everyone marvelling at their great accomplishment, some are criticizing them for their idiocy.

[Maflynn]

Originally Posted by Eug 

Which makes the faking all the more stupid. Instead of everyone marvelling at their great accomplishment, some are criticizing them for their idiocy.

I think people are making a mountain out of a mole hill.

buy any magazine and you'll see a picture that was airbrushed. People attempt to enhance everything around them so who care if they enhanced some fireworks.

[Eug]

Originally Posted by Maflynn 

I think people are making a mountain out of a mole hill.

buy any magazine and you'll see a picture that was airbrushed. People attempt to enhance everything around them so who care if they enhanced some fireworks.

It's fine to draw that parallel, but most people don't view picture touchups in the same light as completely faked singing. I know I don't.

Furthermore, we're talking about some poor 7 year-old kid who was deemed too ugly to be shown in public.



The lip syncher is on the left. The real singer is on the right.

[OldManMac]

Originally Posted by Eug 

Which makes the faking all the more stupid. Instead of everyone marvelling at their great accomplishment, some are criticizing them for their idiocy.

Sounds like Faux News, "some" are..............

If this is the kind of stuff that gets peoples' panties in a wad, I'm worried about the future of humanity. Americans got lied to about a war that my grandchildren will still be paying for. That's important, this isn't.

[Eug]

Originally Posted by OldManMac 

Sounds like Faux News, "some" are..............

The news is real. And "some" as in people like me... Personally I think it's completely braindead decision on their part.

There is absolutely no benefit for their making the decision they did, and only bad possible outcomes if the news got out. And yes, the news got out as we are seeing now. They will be remembered as the morons who decided a 7 year-old with an angelic voice is too ugly to be shown on TV.

Americans got lied to about a war that my grandchildren will still be paying for.

There is an entire forum dedicated to this type of discussion. And that forum is not here.

[Kerrigan]

Despite what all the soulless communists here are saying, I agree with Eug and think it is depressing that the little girl with the nice voice was deemed unsuitable for showing her face in the opening ceremony. And OldManMac: go take your medicine, this isn't a thread about Iraq.

[- - e r i k - -]

Originally Posted by Eug 

There is an entire forum dedicated to this type of discussion. And that forum is not here.

Funny how not riled up you were about Eriamjh's similar comment.

[stevesnj]

Hey alot of singers out there in the top 40 have to have their voices altered in order to make them sound half way decent sounding. All those reality shows on TV are scripted for the most part.

So China put a cuter girl in place of another...SHOCKER!!?? I think not. we are all duped by images on TV everyday...next thing I will hear is that WWE is real and not scripted..LOL Pahlease.

We all got suckered by the old switcheroo! grow up world.

[starman]

Originally Posted by Mastrap 

The whole CG fake stuff has soured the opening for me. Just makes it look like many, many things that come out of China these days - all show and no substance.

NBC said it was done because the Chinese didn't want the helicopters that were shooting the event to get harmed.

[laieboy]

That's it, I'm not watching the closing ceremony!

[Andrew Stephens]

Originally Posted by starman 

NBC said it was done because the Chinese didn't want the helicopters that were shooting the event to get harmed.

The BBC thinks it's because the visibility on the day was so poor due to all the smog the chinese promised would be dealt with on the day. In the live stadium shots you can see the footprint fireworks going off and they look very dull thanks to the smog.

[moep]

I’m surprised that people actually believed all of this to be real. To me it’s obvious that this song was recorded under the best possible circumstances, underwent lots of tonal corrections (or whatever the correct term is) and then played back with that little girl lip syncing.

Not sure if anyone else noticed it, but all the girls in white dresses at the opening ceremony were exactly the same size and well above the chinese average in terms of body height.
Oh, and remember who china picked as their flag bearer? Well, yeah.

[Captain Obvious]

Originally Posted by OldManMac 

Americans got lied to about a war that my grandchildren will still be paying for. That's important, this isn't.

1) Girls got a turkey baster for the holidays?

2) wrong forum gramps

[Maflynn]

Originally Posted by Eug 

Furthermore, we're talking about some poor 7 year-old kid who was deemed too ugly to be shown in public.

Gasp lip syncing, that never happens here. Besides it wasn't that they thought she was too ugly but not cute enough. There's a distinction between cute enough and ugly. Not that I'm defending that action but rather the self-righteous indignation people are expressing over this when its not a huge deal. The opening ceremony is entertainment pure and simple.

[elrah]

btw the guy who lit the olympic torch wasn't really flying either! SHOCKING.

[moonmonkey]

Originally Posted by starman 

The footprints were said to be fake ON THE BROADCAST.

Nothing to see here.

What broadcast?
I assume it was covered by more than one channel?

[analogika]

Originally Posted by Captain Obvious 

1) Girls got a turkey baster for the holidays?

2) wrong forum gramps

Wow, what an asshole.

[Oisín]

Originally Posted by Eug 

Unlikely. The Olympics are a huge boost to Beijing, no matter how jaded a look you might take.

A boost economically, yes. But as we all know, China doesn’t have the best of histories in handling sudden, rapid economic boosts well, without bowling over pretty much any other aspect of society. I’m fairly convinced that, overall, Beijing will not come out of this any better than it was before; quite the opposite. In the past five years, slum areas and the number of homeless people in Beijing have already increased quite a bit, due to all the old small houses being torn down in order to build super-expensive glass-façade buildings. Granted, the old houses were crap—but they were still better than being homeless.

[starman]

Originally Posted by moonmonkey 

What broadcast?
I assume it was covered by more than one channel?

NBC. They said that it was CGI as it was happening.

[Eriamjh]

Originally Posted by elrah 

btw the guy who lit the olympic torch wasn't really flying either! SHOCKING.

I could see the strings. However, I thought it was pretty cool and thought the actual torch lighting was sweet (dude!).

And then there's the BSOD for a split second, too.

It's kinda disappointing that what we are seeing and hearing really isn't real. It makes you wonder about the performance of their own atheletes, too.

[Eug]

Originally Posted by Maflynn 

Gasp lip syncing, that never happens here.

Errr... So what? I've never said that singers in North America are cool awesomeness when they lip sync. Personally I think it's stupid.

Originally Posted by Oisín 

A boost economically, yes. But as we all know, China doesn’t have the best of histories in handling sudden, rapid economic boosts well, without bowling over pretty much any other aspect of society. I’m fairly convinced that, overall, Beijing will not come out of this any better than it was before; quite the opposite. In the past five years, slum areas and the number of homeless people in Beijing have already increased quite a bit, due to all the old small houses being torn down in order to build super-expensive glass-façade buildings. Granted, the old houses were crap—but they were still better than being homeless.

I would say that the vast majority of the slum inhabitants aren't originally from Beijing anyway. They're transplants from the countryside.

I agree that housing is a big issue in Beijing, but my understanding is that most of the problem is the inability of most of those from the outside coming to Beijing to afford to housing as opposed to local residents being kicked out of their homes.

I'm not saying there isn't some of the latter too, but the difference here is most of those have been compensated in some way (although not well in many cases), and their numbers are far lower than the transplants from outside Beijing.

[sek929]

Originally Posted by analogika 

Wow, what an asshole.

I know you've been here a while but you're just now realizing CO is a soulless POS?!?

[Goldfinger]

Originally Posted by Kerrigan 

Oisin: I noticed that the same thing has happened in other Olympic cities. They build acres and acres of shoddy hotels, venues are created that will have no potential after the games are over, and the infrastructure in general is not great.

Yeah, I was very happy to hear this week that Boris Johnson only wants to have buildings built who can be usefull in the next 50 years.

[nonhuman]

I'm really not sure what's more amusing: that China is doing things like this, or that people are surprised that China is doing things like this.

[Eug]

Originally Posted by nonhuman 

I'm really not sure what's more amusing: that China is doing things like this, or that people are surprised that China is doing things like this.

Who says it's surprising? I'm not surprised, which just makes this even more disappointing.

[nonhuman]

Originally Posted by Eug 

Who says it's surprising? I'm not surprised, which just makes this even more disappointing.

Americans, as a whole, (I can't speak for people in other countries, not being around them much of late) seem, to me, to be shocked and appalled that China would do such a thing. I personally, as I suspect you do, find this to be pretty much par for the course for China.

[Randman]

Meh, it was still a good show.

[Randman]

Oh, and it's not like Whitney Houston didn't lip sync the national anthem at the Super Bowl following 9/11.

[Atheist]

ZOMG!! The world isn't perfect!!

I thought the opening ceremony was great. Couldn't care less about the little girl or the minor CG enhancements.

[OldManMac]

Originally Posted by Captain Obvious 

1) Girls got a turkey baster for the holidays?

2) wrong forum gramps

Awww, he likes me!

It's amazing what gets some people riled up, and what doesn't.

[Andy8]

Originally Posted by Randman 

Meh, it was still a good show.

Exactly.

[ironknee]

so why did the "better looking" girl lip synch to a live singing from the "not as good looking" girl?

couldn't they have taped it?

[- - e r i k - -]

Originally Posted by sek929 

I know you've been here a while but you're just now realizing CO is a soulless POS?!?

Indeed. About the only poster left still on my ignore list. He contributes absolutely nothing of value ever.

[PB2K]

I don't know why topic starter is so amazed with the faked olympics.

it's a commercial ceremony.apart from that and politics, I think the chinese are really great hosts, it's beautiful.

edit : remeber the olympic flame of 1992 (barcelona) that was lit with an arrow ? turns out the arrow missed the flame by 30 metres and it was lit automatically.

[Doofy]

No worries folks - wait until 2012 and it'll all be real again. You know, athletes running around a building site jumping over drunks and attempting to avoid being mugged by a hoodie with a MAC-10, that kind of stuff.