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Sep 28, 2008, 04:12 PM
 
Saw a Subway ad offering any footlong for $5. Went to Subway and was charged $13 for two subs and was told "yeah, we don't do that here".

If you say in your ad that product X is available for price Y, then all stores that bear your company name should be legally required to honor that price*. You should not be able to get out of it by saying "At participating locations" at the bottom of your ad. I have little interest in driving or calling all over town to find out which of the locations that bear the same name as the company advertised are willing to accept the advertised price.

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Sep 28, 2008, 04:22 PM
 
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Sep 28, 2008, 04:33 PM
 
Three Subways I frequent all do $5 subs*. I sometimes get a toasted turkey and swiss like three times a week.

Pretty good on the cheap.




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Sep 28, 2008, 04:36 PM
 
This is an easy distinction for me as none of the kosher subways have $5 subs.

How would your new law take the kosher franchises into consideration since their food costs are so much different?
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Sep 28, 2008, 04:37 PM
 
Suckway subs.

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Sep 28, 2008, 04:45 PM
 
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Sep 28, 2008, 04:51 PM
 
All of those ads say "at participating locations" anyway.

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Sep 28, 2008, 05:31 PM
 
Yeah, there was probably some explanatory mumbo-jumbo at the bottom of the screen that nobody bothers reading.

It was the same way when Blockbuster did its "end of late fees" gimmick — some franchise stores it had bought still had the autonomy to say no, so there were some locations that did in fact still have late fees. And I felt sorry for the poor clerks who had to explain that to their customers.
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Sep 28, 2008, 06:22 PM
 
All the ones I visit participate, but the kind of sub I get doesn't qualify for $5.
     
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Sep 28, 2008, 06:35 PM
 
Originally Posted by Big Mac View Post
All of those ads say "at participating locations" anyway.
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Yeah, there was probably some explanatory mumbo-jumbo at the bottom of the screen that nobody bothers reading.
I'm saying that should be outlawed. I shouldn't have to drive or call all over town to find out which of the stores that bear your brand are accepting your advertised prices. If they don't want to participate in advertising campaigns, then they should go by another name.
     
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Sep 28, 2008, 06:40 PM
 
Stores shouldn't legally be able to have sales because you find taking advantage of the sales to be inconvenient? OK, so pretend like that law is already in effect and just go pay full price.
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Sep 28, 2008, 06:58 PM
 
Try living in Alaska. All those offers are higher priced. Not to mention all the things that are available only in the continental U.S. (Which we call the lower 48.)
     
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Sep 28, 2008, 08:01 PM
 
Take a photo with your phone of the advert and then show it to them in the store.
     
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Sep 28, 2008, 08:17 PM
 
Originally Posted by AKcrab View Post
Try living in Alaska. All those offers are higher priced. Not to mention all the things that are available only in the continental U.S. (Which we call the lower 48.)
How is Russia's prices? You call them the upper 1, no?

     
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Sep 28, 2008, 08:21 PM
 
I'd say that there SHOULD be a very strong consumer protection law that requires "independent" locations to plainly and prominently announce when a chain-wide promotion is NOT honored. That keeps the "your $5 purchase is $13" surprises from happening. And by the way, there are certain to be independent locations whose management INTENTIONALLY lets you think that you're getting the promotion when you're not, just as there are others whose management scrupulously informs every customer trying to order such promotions that that location doesn't honor it.

This is a matter of fairness, "equity" as the lawyers call it, and something really should be done about it.
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Sep 28, 2008, 08:27 PM
 
Talk to the manager (because the clerks don't care) and threaten to walk out. The manager would rather have your $5 per sub than to have to throw them away. Then call Subway's head office and complain. Also mention that Quizno's doesn't pull that BS on you.
     
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Sep 28, 2008, 08:49 PM
 
So you stood in line to order before noticing that there weren't any in-store ads like there always are? And now you're whining about it and want a LAW passed because you're an ill-informed consumer?
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Sep 28, 2008, 10:24 PM
 
Originally Posted by RAILhead View Post
So you stood in line to order before noticing that there weren't any in-store ads like there always are? And now you're whining about it and want a LAW passed because you're an ill-informed consumer?
RAILhead beat me to it, QFT.

If I'm not sure about pricing on something, I ask before I order so that I'm not surprised at the register. The last thing we need in this country is MORE laws.
     
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Sep 28, 2008, 11:14 PM
 
Yes we need more consumer protection laws to protect people from an independently owned franchise's reckless freedom to not participate in a promotion.

Freedom like this is destroying our country.

Was that "over-the-top"?
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Sep 28, 2008, 11:47 PM
 
so you're bitching about $3?

call your congressman. or eat somewhere that isn't a franchise.
     
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Sep 29, 2008, 01:14 AM
 
Originally Posted by hayesk View Post
Talk to the manager (because the clerks don't care) and threaten to walk out. The manager would rather have your $5 per sub than to have to throw them away. Then call Subway's head office and complain. Also mention that Quizno's doesn't pull that BS on you.
srsly?

If they don't participate, they don't participate. It pays to know the various local subways I guess, if you're going looking for deals.
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Sep 29, 2008, 01:25 AM
 
Originally Posted by d4nth3m4n View Post
so you're bitching about $3?
No, he's bitching about $13 he wouldn't have spent there if he hadn't thought he'd get the promotion.

And the possibly several thousand dollars they might be making due to others having the same impression.
     
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Sep 29, 2008, 03:25 AM
 
Originally Posted by analogika View Post
No, he's bitching about $13 he wouldn't have spent there if he hadn't thought he'd get the promotion.
Which is about on the same level as picking up a steaming pile of dogshit and bitching that you almost stepped in it.
     
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Sep 29, 2008, 04:27 AM
 
I went in to my local subway for this same $5 offer but I was refused service by a manager who mumbled something about 'not taking foreign currency' and not honouring something I had seen on a web forum.
     
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Sep 29, 2008, 05:26 AM
 
I don't know why people here act like it's your fault but I totally agree with you. I've heard of "bait and switch" and it's illegal. And I agree that some little sentence at the bottom of the screen that says it may not be true doesn't fix it.

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Sep 29, 2008, 06:13 AM
 
"Everything's so clear to me now: I'm the keeper of the cheese and you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it.
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Originally Posted by analogika View Post
No, he's bitching about $13 he wouldn't have spent there if he hadn't thought he'd get the promotion.

And the possibly several thousand dollars they might be making due to others having the same impression.
He bought two subs. WITH promotion in effect, he would have spent 2 x $5 = $10.

So yes, he is bitching about $3 !

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Sep 29, 2008, 09:19 AM
 
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Which is about on the same level as picking up a steaming pile of dogshit and bitching that you almost stepped in it.


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Sep 29, 2008, 09:32 AM
 
This reeks of a business trying to get all the advantages of being a chain without any of the disadvantages of honoring their deals.

Tell you what, they put a big sign in their window that say "we don't honor parent offers" and we'll call it even.
     
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Sep 29, 2008, 10:44 AM
 
I've never seen so much fuss over a lettuce sandwich.

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Originally Posted by BlueSky View Post
I've never seen so much fuss over a lettuce sandwich.
I've been to Subway dozens of times and they've never put any lettuce on any of my sandwiches. In fact they never put ANYthing on without me specifically asking them to. Have you ever been there?

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Originally Posted by Dakar V View Post
Tell you what, they put a big sign in their window that say "we don't honor parent offers" and we'll call it even.

Or, if you approach a Subway that doesn't have some HUGE $5 SUB sign in the window, carry on.
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Sep 29, 2008, 06:53 PM
 
I do think it's a little unfair if customers find out that a store isn't participating in a sale until right when they're expected to pay, but the fact that caveat emptor is in Latin should tell you how new this problem is. I assume the menu at the store tells the right price.
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Sep 29, 2008, 11:50 PM
 
Originally Posted by Chuckit View Post
I assume the menu at the store tells the right price.
They do.

Kind of like how the hair dryer has a label on it saying "NO DUMMY, do not use in the bathtub."

Most businesses already have prepared themselves for the lowest common denominator. Now it's up to the LCD-crowd to learn to read.
     
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Sep 30, 2008, 12:02 AM
 
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Originally Posted by rickey939 View Post
How is Russia's prices? You call them the upper 1, no?
We tell them to "shoo".
     
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Sep 30, 2008, 05:59 AM
 
Originally Posted by turtle777 View Post
Suckway subs.

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Hell yeah. My wife and I got so damned sick last week from eathing those crap subs. We both were up all night well into the morning daylight expelling things in various ways. I think I puked up french fries. I haven't had french fries in several weeks.
     
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*not available at all locations
*Price may vary in Alaska and Hawaii. And California, Utah, Georgia, North Carolina, Iowa, Virginia, Vermont, Washington, Alabama, Mississippi, Arizona...
     
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Sep 30, 2008, 09:49 AM
 
Jimmy John's FTW
     
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Jimmy John's FTW
I LOVE JIMMY JOHN'S. This is one of two arguments I've ever had with my girlfriend. She thinks Subway's bread and general quality is better. I disagreed. Vehemently. Things were tense for a while.

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I LOVE JIMMY JOHN'S. This is one of two arguments I've ever had with my girlfriend. She thinks Subway's bread and general quality is better. I disagreed. Vehemently. Things were tense for a while.
And then you gave her a 6 incher. She thought it was delicious.
We're talking food, right?
     
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She thinks Subway's bread and general quality is better. I disagreed. Vehemently. Things were tense for a while.
Subway's bread always gives me stomach aches. I think it's the yeast.

I miss Blimpie's.

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And then you gave her a 6 incher. She thought it was delicious.
We're talking food, right?
Jimmy John's is 8", thank you.

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I miss Blimpie's.

That was a sandwich...
When the Blimpie's here in town closed down, somehow my roommates managed to get their 8'x4' sign from the pole in front of the store. It's sitting in our basement now, no idea what to do with it.

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Sep 30, 2008, 11:07 AM
 
You deserved to get scammed if you eat at Subway. Subway is quite possibly the nastiest sandwich place in the world. It is beyond me how that company stays in business.
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Which is about on the same level as picking up a steaming pile of dogshit and bitching that you almost stepped in it.
That's about what I equate a Subway sandwich to. Dog crap.
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Originally Posted by wallinbl View Post
I'm saying that should be outlawed. I shouldn't have to drive or call all over town to find out which of the stores that bear your brand are accepting your advertised prices. If they don't want to participate in advertising campaigns, then they should go by another name.

If you don't want to drive or call all over town to find the "particpating locations" clearly described in the ad, then you should take your business somewhere else. This is America, and the last thing we need is more government involvement in our lives because you find it inconvenient to do something for yourself.
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Originally Posted by Laminar View Post
I LOVE JIMMY JOHN'S. This is one of two arguments I've ever had with my girlfriend. She thinks Subway's bread and general quality is better. I disagreed. Vehemently. Things were tense for a while.
Give her the ultimatum: Admit the undeiable truth that JJ is pure awesomeness and SW is fresh cat poo in comparison, or she is kicked to the curb. Her choice.
     
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Sep 30, 2008, 11:47 AM
 
Plus, at jimmy John's, sub #s 1-6 and the J.J.B.L.T.® are all $4.40

Again...

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Originally Posted by olePigeon View Post
You deserved to get scammed if you eat at Subway. Subway is quite possibly the nastiest sandwich place in the world. It is beyond me how that company stays in business.
It isn't my favorite, but I've always thought Subway was really good for fast food.
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Originally Posted by olePigeon View Post
You deserved to get scammed if you eat at Subway. Subway is quite possibly the nastiest sandwich place in the world. It is beyond me how that company stays in business.

I take it you never ever go to fast food joints at all then. Without blinders on though, it's easy to see Subway doing well. They're tons better than going to Wendy's or Burger King or any other fast food except maybe something like Pollo Tropical. Their subs are $5, that's cheap. If I want my GIANT Boar's Head Roast Beef from LaSpada's I'll fork over $10.75.

I ordered a turkey/swiss/light light lettuce, 4 tomato slices, lots of black olives, red onion, mayo, salt, pepper and a teeeeny bit of oil and vinegar on parmesan-oregano bread the other day. No one without a chip on their shoulder would have called this sandwich nasty or equated it to dog poo. It was quite good, keeping in mind I dropped 5 bucks on the thing.
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