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Is it just me, or is this picture a little funky?
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So I was reading the Wikipedia article on Abraham Lincoln the other night, and saw this picture:
Now. I don't know much about photography, but doesn't this look like a photograph of miniatures? The depth of field (at least, that's what I think it is) has the background SO blurred on such a wide angle shot that it looks like a miniature model.
Am I just crazy to think this? Thoughts? MacNN's input is very critical here.
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Well, people were quite a bit smaller back then. 
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Let's see..... maybe mid 1860's photographic technology has something to do with it. I'm reasonably sure the photo is real and well preserved. I'm certainly no expert though.
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I'm not saying it's not real.
In fact, I'm certain it is.
I'm just wondering if anyone else is seeing the effect that I'm seeing due to the odd depth of field for that kind of shot.
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The size of the negative was very large, probably 8x10 inches or more. To have wide angle coverage over such a large negative, you have a long focal length. It could easily be over 300 mm, and shot with a relatively large aperture to keep the shutter speed fast enough for animated subjects. Thus, very shallow depth of field.
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Originally Posted by shifuimam 
I'm not saying it's not real.
In fact, I'm certain it is.
I'm just wondering if anyone else is seeing the effect that I'm seeing due to the odd depth of field for that kind of shot.
Sorry shif, I missed your point.
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Originally Posted by design219
The size of the negative was very large, probably 8x10 inches or more. To have wide angle coverage over such a large negative, you have a long focal length. It could easily be over 300 mm, and shot with a relatively large aperture to keep the shutter speed fast enough for animated subjects. Thus, very shallow depth of field.
I figured as much. Does it look like miniatures to you, or am I just insane?
I'm also quickly getting completely lit.
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Now shif, that explains everything. Have one for me. 
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Getting lit with Lincoln... sounds like a fun time.
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Originally Posted by design219
The size of the negative was very large, probably 8x10 inches or more. To have wide angle coverage over such a large negative, you have a long focal length. It could easily be over 300 mm, and shot with a relatively large aperture to keep the shutter speed fast enough for animated subjects. Thus, very shallow depth of field.
Also, if the lens was not parallel with the film, you'll get tilt shift focus pictures as you allude to here:
Originally Posted by design219
Here are some more dramatic examples:
This site shots you how to fake it in photoshop: http://www.tiltshiftphotography.net/examples.php
All of the shots below are of full-sized live scenes:
And although all of the above shots were PS'd, it is easy to do with a purpose specific lens such as one from Nikon or Canon. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilt-shift_photography
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Originally Posted by Railroader
All of the shots below are of full-sized live scenes:
That's just crazy.
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Its a small world after all.
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holy god i'm so drunk ican't go to bed yet.
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i'll take a closer look at this tomorrow.
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wow, some of those model are unreal , i wouldnt have even know they were models if it wasn't for the subject of the thread.
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Originally Posted by RAILhead
Here are a couple of my tilt-shifts:
Holy crap - that's the block I grew up on! Across the street and down the block a bit from that synagogue.
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Originally Posted by crazyreaper
wow, some of those model are unreal , i wouldnt have even know they were models if it wasn't for the subject of the thread.
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It is amazing to think how much time and effort was put into them to make them look so real.
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Originally Posted by RAILhead
Here are a couple of my tilt-shifts:
Awesome work Maury. Are you using a tilt-shift lens? Which one?
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Not really the same thing (largely because I'm shooting with a Panasonic DMC-FZ8 which just isn't capable of it), but I managed a similar looking effect with one of my shots from Iceland:
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The depth of field is not what catches my eye in the first picture. I'd be wondering why the guys on both sides of Lincoln are reaching for their guns. They better be reaching for pens or something, or Abe looks to be a goner before he reaches the theater.
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i actually wanna make sure im not been a dick here... they are actually models yer? lol (barling Lincoln and the last one)
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Originally Posted by shifuimam
So I was reading the Wikipedia article on Abraham Lincoln the other night, and saw this picture:
Now. I don't know much about photography, but doesn't this look like a photograph of miniatures? The depth of field (at least, that's what I think it is) has the background SO blurred on such a wide angle shot that it looks like a miniature model.
Am I just crazy to think this? Thoughts? MacNN's input is very critical here.
Remember back then films were not very sensitive. This was probably a 1 s shot if not more (which explains why Lincoln looks blurred, he probably moved). The DOF is probably due to a pretty low aperture.
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Wow... those definitely look like plastic dolls. Even the lighting does. That's crazy.
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Here's a tilt-shift I did:
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I think the effect is most striking with large city areas and big groups of people.
This is a pretty cool effect. I'm going to have to try the Photoshop route on some of my Chicago pics sometime.
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Originally Posted by Railroader
Awesome work Maury. Are you using a tilt-shift lens? Which one?
I do my shifts in Photoshop.
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Originally Posted by Andy8
Hah! Scroll down and watch the tilt-shift videos.
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It's called the Scheimpflug principle if anyone cares.
Funny thing is, I just finished a small paper on war photography an hour a go and I included that picture.
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Originally Posted by Goldfinger
It's called the Scheimpflug principle if anyone cares.
Funny thing is, I just finished a small paper on war photography an hour a go and I included that picture.
Did you call it "One by one, we all fall down"?
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Originally Posted by calverson
Did you call it "One by one, we all fall down"?
Nope, and I'm afraid I'm missing the reference here 
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The band Goldfinger have a song called War, which the first lines are "One by one, we all fall down".
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Oh i see now nice.
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Just saw these kinda nifty tilt-shift videos on Gizmodo of a demolition derby and Sidney harbor. Never saw the effect in video before. Pretty cool in my ever humble opinion.
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Originally Posted by ThinkInsane
Just saw these kinda nifty tilt-shift videos on Gizmodo of a demolition derby and Sydney harbor. Never saw the effect in video before. Pretty cool in my ever humble opinion.
I gotta try this effect out.. it looks really cool! Eric, that photo of yours is really nice!!
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