[downinflames68]

Since I lost all my cookware in a recent divorce, I am using pieces scrounged up from my mom's basement. One of them is my grandma's cast iron skillet, a 10" "Wagner Ware" with 1060 on the bottom. Not sure what year it is, but I'm guessing 50s sometime. Anyway, from what I've been reading, the old cast iron stuff is much better than the new stuff because it's lighter, smoother, and uses a better iron ore that's not made in ching chong china. Anyway, I'm going to recondition it as described here:

Black Iron Dude: Easy Cast Iron Skillet Reconditioning

I'll post before and after pics, as well as some cooking impressions. Just to get a baseline, I just cooked a lb of bacon in it. There was some sticking, but not much. The bacon tasted excellent though.

[Uncle Skeleton]

Originally Posted by downinflames68 

ching chong china.

wut

[ebuddy]

Originally Posted by Uncle Skeleton 

wut

I was wondering when this would happen.

[turtle777]

Nice find. Old cast iron cookware, if cared for, is about the best stuff you can use for cooking.

Make sure to use the right oil with it. I found that (for some reason) cast iron and grape seed oil are an absolute no go. It gets sticky like hell.

Butter on the other hand works fine.

-t

[moonmonkey]

Originally Posted by downinflames68 

I just cooked a lb of bacon in it.

You ate a pound of bacon? please post photo's

[richwig83]

Originally Posted by downinflames68 

ching chong china

Your not australian are you?

[moonmonkey]

considering he just ate a pound of bacon he must be from the US.
If he started that ching chong stuff round here he I can guarantee would get a few ninja stars in his lardy ass.

[Shaddim]

Originally Posted by turtle777 

Nice find. Old cast iron cookware, if cared for, is about the best stuff you can use for cooking.

Make sure to use the right oil with it. I found that (for some reason) cast iron and grape seed oil are an absolute no go. It gets sticky like hell.

Butter on the other hand works fine.

-t

Peanut oil.

[reader50]

There is another benefit. You can crack more skulls with a real cast-iron skillet. Aluminum skillets sold today just bend up under force.

Or so I would assume. Someone else should do this important comparison test.

[kmkkid]

Originally Posted by downinflames68 

not made in ching chong china.

I'm thinking this attitude contributed towards the divorce.

[Buckaroo]

Originally Posted by downinflames68 

ching chong china

Oops

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by kmkkid 

I'm thinking this attitude contributed towards the divorce.

Na, she wasn't Chinese...

-t

[imitchellg5]

I love cast iron. For some reason when I make cornbread, it only comes out if I use a cast iron pan.

[Brien]

Cast iron is great. Mine probably is from ching chong china, being a newer one, but it works pretty well.

[residentEvil]

i only use the best...

Lodge Cast Iron Cookware - America's Original Cookware - South Pittsburg, TN USA

[tooki]

Cast iron rocks. Season it well, never wash with soap and water (scrub with coarse salt and oil, rinse with water, heat briefly to dry before storing), and don’t make acidic things (like tomato sauces) in it. Then you can use the pan with basically no added oil to “grill” things, or you can fry.

I wish I’d brought my cast iron with me on this move — I gave it to a friend.

[ghporter]

Sometimes it's important TO wash cast iron with soap and water. But you have to do it VERY carefully. You only need to do this when you've forgotten to drain something like bacon grease and it's gotten cool and congealed-this can cause the seasoned surface to go rancid and that's a Very Bad Thing. A good grease cutting dishwashing soap like Dawn is what you want, and you want to do it QUICK. Physically clean out the about-to-be-rancid grease as much as possible. Next, wash out the inside of the pan with hot water and Dawn, and do it as quickly as possible-you don't want the soap to "clean" the seasoned surface too much. After it's no longer greasy, dry it with heat (in a warm oven works well) and THEN scour with salt. Afterward you'll need to re-oil it; light vegetable oil is good for this, and you just need a light coating.

My grandparents had an extensive cast iron cookware collection, and they (unfortunately) never heard about the not cleaning with soap thing. For that matter, neither did the Boy Scouts. I did a LOT of scouring with steel wool and elbow grease to get down to clean iron-and these pans did not cook anywhere near as well as a properly seasoned and properly handled pan, even a modern one.

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by tooki 

Cast iron rocks. Season it well, never wash with soap and water

Uhm, as an absolute, that's not true.

After washing with soap, you need to re-season it. So doing it after every use becomes quite cumbersome.

Btw, I wonder how professional chefs in restaurants deal with this. Not using soap to clean cast iron pans would be a violation of health codes, right ?

-t

[ghporter]

Originally Posted by turtle777 

Uhm, as an absolute, that's not true.

After washing with soap, you need to re-season it. So doing it after every use becomes quite cumbersome.

Btw, I wonder how professional chefs in restaurants deal with this. Not using soap to clean cast iron pans would be a violation of health codes, right ?

-t

Steam cleaning. Steam kills anything you'd need to kill and doesn't displace the surface coating you've built up. In fact it can help even it out and make it more consistent if you steam a pan regularly.

[turtle777]

Ah, I see. Thanks.

-t

[Oisín]

In Before Mastr---Phileas™.

Originally Posted by downinflames68

ching chong china

I think you’ll find that’s Chong Ching, China.

[Uncle Skeleton]

Originally Posted by ghporter 

Steam cleaning. Steam kills anything you'd need to kill and doesn't displace the surface coating you've built up.

I don't get this. The next time you cook with it, wouldn't that be hotter the steam (making the steam a waste of time)?

[Uncle Skeleton]

Originally Posted by Oisín 

In Before Mastr---Phileas™.

I think you’ll find that’s Chong Ching, China.

Wow, it's true!

[ShortcutToMoncton]

I only use cast iron frying pans - 8 and 12 inch!

Plus when the weather is too terrible to barbeque, steaks still taste absolutely fantastic done with a cast-iron pan.

greg

[ghporter]

Originally Posted by Uncle Skeleton 

I don't get this. The next time you cook with it, wouldn't that be hotter the steam (making the steam a waste of time)?

The steam removes stuff that would sit on a COLD pan and produce chemicals that would not be destroyed by the heat of cooking. Botulinus toxin, for starters, survives very high temperatures. Further, when stuff stays on the seasoned surface of a pan, it can impart a flavor into the surface. Steaming the pan prevents that.

One really easy way to steam clean a pan is to put a small amount of water into it, cover it, and bring it to a boil for a couple of minutes. Between the boiling at the bottom and the steam through the rest of the pan, it will be pretty much sterile, but the seasoned coating won't be harmed. Of course you do this after removing any debris and scouring with salt (or sand if it's a dutch oven and you're camping ).

[mattyb]

Originally Posted by tooki 

wash

Originally Posted by ghporter 

cleaning

You guys should know better than to use words like that in the Lounge. Really.

[downinflames68]

"Ching chong" is a term used by every designer I know of that references cheap low quality crap produced in china.

Anyway, Lodge makes some extremely HEAVY rough stuff, but .. here, check this out:


Black Iron Dude: Old Cast Iron vs. New Cast Iron

[Uncle Skeleton]

Originally Posted by downinflames68 

"Ching chong" is a term used by every designer I know of

Your friends sound like a bunch of racist pricks. Not that that's too surprising.

I didn't know that about the pans though. Can you show some pics of yours?

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by Uncle Skeleton 

Your friends sound like a bunch of racist pricks. Not that that's too surprising.

OK, maybe you might wanna explain why this is racist ?

Or is racist the new derogatory ? (Godwin's law to the rescue)

-t

[downinflames68]

Originally Posted by Uncle Skeleton 

Your friends sound like a bunch of racist pricks. Not that that's too surprising.

How is that racist? It is referencing the sub par quality of chinese made goods... shoddy products, crappy engineering, "ching chong garbage". It says nothing about the ethnicity/race/superiority of a people over another people. It's about labor costs and cheap junk. No offense dude, but you can take the race card and shove it up your sphincter sideways.

[The Final Dakar]

What does the "ching chong" part reference?

[downinflames68]

Crappy chinese goods. Like I just said.

"Hey dude I just bought a sweet Milwaukee Grinder at home depot for $79.99!"

"Oh that's cool. I spent $17.99 at harbor freight and got a ching chong one."

[SpaceMonkey]

Hopefully said while wearing vintage 2002-era Abercrombie shirts:

[The Final Dakar]

Originally Posted by downinflames68 

Crappy chinese goods. Like I just said.

OK, what does "ching chong" mean? Where did it come from?

Your explanation is about as solid as explaining the term redneck thusly:

"What's redneck mean?"
"Dumb southerner."
"What's it reference?"
"Dumb southerners."

No, actually it references that the people it stereotypes tended to have sunburned necks.

[Uncle Skeleton]

Originally Posted by turtle777 

OK, maybe you might wanna explain why this is racist ?

Ching chong - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ching chong is an ethnic slur used to mock people of Chinese ancestry or other Asians who may look Chinese, and an onomatopoeia used to represent Chinese language speech patterns. Many public commentators on the recent usage of the term have deemed it derogatory, and referred to its derogatory usage in history.[1][2]

Originally Posted by downinflames68 

How is that racist?

Urban Dictionary: ching chong
The only to two phonetics composing the chinese language. Comparable to the 1 and 0 binary language system of a computer.
Examples:
38
In binary: 100110
In chinese: ching chong chong ching ching chong

Hello. How are you doing today sir? It's a nice day outside. Wouldn't you agree?
Binary: 10
Chinese: ching chong
get this def on a mug
ching chang chong chinese penis ching chinese dick ching chong bing bong

2. ching chong
When some gayass chants some random 'chinese noises' like 'ching chang chong' to really piss off a Chinese person. Used by racist ppl, and just as often, little naive ignorant kids who think it's funny (who promptly get a beatdown).
In 2002, Shaq told a reporter (aired nationally), "Tell Yao Ming, ching chong yang wah ahs ho!!"

3. ching chong
A way to verbally insult someone who has Asian Heritage. Usually finished by saying "Wing Wong".
White/Black Person:"Yo Ching Chong, give me some rice you wing wong."
Asian Person:*insult in asian* or "**** You".

4. Ching Chong
The only word arrogant non-Asians think all Asians say.
White Kid: Hey, what does ching chong mean?
Asian Kid: It means go **** yourself.

5. Ching CHONG
a aisan person
yo u seen that ching chong

6. ching chong
A racist dub for EVERYTHING an Asian person says.

.. And it's amazing how many people are so ignorant when defining 'ching chong'. Kind of amusing too, haha.
Asian: Hey, wanna go hang out tonight?
Non-Asian: What was that? I can see your mouth moving but all I hear is 'ching chong'...

7. ching chong
derogatory name for an Asian. Generally used by those who are jealous from Asians.
P1: Hey, check out ching chong over there.

P2: Yea he's real annoying

P1: He always gets the highest grade on tests in chemistry...

It is referencing the sub par quality of chinese made goods... shoddy products, crappy engineering, "ching chong garbage". It says nothing about the ethnicity/race/superiority of a people over another people.

Apparently, it means that their goods are all "sub par quality," their products are all "shoddy," their engineering is "crappy garbage," and their labor is "cheap junk." If you don't think racism matters, that's your prerogative, but if you don't think this is an example of it, it makes me wonder how you're smart enough to tie your shoes in the morning.... hey do you still use velcro? Want to drop it and talk about pans again?

[The Final Dakar]

[Laminar]

I'm not going to be the one to post Kevin's picture.

[Laminar]

Originally Posted by Uncle Skeleton 

3. ching chong
A way to verbally insult someone who has Asian Heritage. Usually finished by saying "Wing Wong".
White/Black Person:"Yo Ching Chong, give me some rice you wing wong."
Asian Person:*insult in asian* or "**** You".

When I was checking out the Rosetta Stones I had to choose between "Spanish," "Italian," or "Asian."

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by Uncle Skeleton 

Urban Dictionary: ching chong
[i]The only to two phonetics composing the chinese language. Comparable to the 1 and 0 binary language system of a computer.
Examples:
38
In binary: 100110
In chinese: ching chong chong ching ching chong

What about chung, cheng or chang ?

-t

[downinflames68]

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar 

OK, what does "ching chong" mean? Where did it come from?

From crappy chinese goods.

[downinflames68]

Pretty sure for a term to be racist it has to be used to put down another people, or meant to insult them. This is meant as a description of shoddy goods. Like other terms describing their country of origin; riceburner, krautwagon, etc. If you guys want to play the race card when I wasn't even talking about people, that just shows how totally ****ing pathetic/desperate you are in looking for an e-fight.

[ThinkInsane]

I now pronounce this thread hopefully off-topic.