[downinflames68]

Okay... so seeing as how my last car made it through only a few Milwaukee winters without sprouting up the nasty orange stuff, I am HELL BENT on preventing it this time. I read about Boshield T9, a rust PREVENTATIVE developed by Boeing, while searching for a DIY version of WaxOyl. WaxOyl is a rust prevention system that uses a combination wax/oil spray, that is applied all over the vehicle's undercarriage. It can be applied when the car is still wet, and it forms a protective waxy film that feels slightly oily. If any of your wives have ever had a pedicure, where they put their feet in hot wax, then peel it away leaving the oil, it is similar to that.

So, I found BoShield. It's available at any West Marine boating supply store, and right now it's on sale for $12.99 a can. I bought three of them. I began by taking my car to a DIY car wash, and spraying the undercarriage, suspension, and any nooks and crannies to remove dirt and leaves. I then took it to another car wash where they had an undercarriage flush, just to make sure I could get as much crap off as possible. I then took my jack out to my car, and jacked it up one corner at a time. I layed under the car (not under the wheel) and just went to town, spraying T9 EVERYWHERE. After that, I attached the spray tube to the cans, and shot it up INTO the tailgate, as well as the bottom edges of the doors. I also sprayed inside the front edge of the hood, and basically anywhere I've seen this car begin to rust (not my car, but others).

When it dries, there is a slightly whitish haze of protective wax, which causes water to bead right off when it gets wet. Hopefully you guys find this helpful, and keep your vehicles on the road a bit longer with this treatement. For the record, I spent $50 on three cans, and a BASIC waxoyl treatment costs around $800.

http://www.boeshield.com/rust_prevention/stoprust.pdf

[iMOTOR]

Or you could just drive an old Volvo.

FWIW, I have seen some rust on a few older Volvos, but it’s usually bums who never wash their cars.

[downinflames68]

Everything rusts in Milwaukee. It's absolutely mind boggling how much salt they use. I've never seen anything like it. The roads are not covered with a white haze, or spots of white, but they are WHITE. I'll take some pictures later this winter so you can see what I'm up against. Unless these volvos are made of aluminum or some other material that doesn't rust, they'll rust here just like everything else.

[Laminar]

Originally Posted by downinflames68 

Everything rusts in Milwaukee. It's absolutely mind boggling how much salt they use. I've never seen anything like it. The roads are not covered with a white haze, or spots of white, but they are WHITE. I'll take some pictures later this winter so you can see what I'm up against. Unless these volvos are made of aluminum or some other material that doesn't rust, they'll rust here just like everything else.

Aluminum oxidizes in the same manner as steel, but aluminum oxide forms a protective layer over the bare aluminum that prevents further corrosion. But it still "rusts."

[Doofy]

Get an old Landie and embrace the rust. More rust = sexier and more manly.

[Phileas]

Originally Posted by Doofy 

Get an old Landie and embrace the rust. More rust = sexier and more manly.

The body of an old Landy is made from aluminum. They only rust where you can't see it.

[dzp111]

I only skimmed trough this thread, so I'll say this quickly (as living in the white salted North). There are 2 types of undercoating now: oil-based, and wax-based. Go for the latter. Oil-based spray dries rubber hoses eventually.

Little more expensive but in the long run wax-base makes a lot more sense.

Do your research.

[Doofy]

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Originally Posted by phileas 

the body of an old landy is made from aluminum. They only rust where you can't see it.

[design219]

I haven't seen a rusty car in years. But I don't live in the north.

[ThinkInsane]

Originally Posted by downinflames68 

Everything rusts in Milwaukee. It's absolutely mind boggling how much salt they use. I've never seen anything like it. The roads are not covered with a white haze, or spots of white, but they are WHITE. I'll take some pictures later this winter so you can see what I'm up against. Unless these volvos are made of aluminum or some other material that doesn't rust, they'll rust here just like everything else.

Try living in a place that they actually advertise as "The Salt City". No joke, that's what they call it.

[mattyb]

Rent.

[Phileas]

Originally Posted by Doofy 

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Well played.

And agreed with the wax based undercoating.

[downinflames68]

The problem with a purely wax based undercoating is the same problem with spray on rubber undercoating. Once the layer is compromised, moisture gets in between the wax and the metal, or the rubber and the metal, and sits there. Oily coatings are the only way to really get a "coating" on the metal that water cannot get inbetween.

[Eriamjh]

As an owner of several classic cars, rust protection is the bane of the restoration enthusiast. We hate it. It either traps moisture causing rust eventually, or it forms a nasty barrier to restoration since no factory car comes with it.

I've never seen a good study on rust preventatives. Wonder why?

What about those so-called electronic ones? OR the Zinc-based sacrificial ones?

[downinflames68]

Eriamjh; that's why oil/wax is different. It does not trap moisture. Read about waxoyl and you'll see how great this idea really is.

[Gregg]

Originally Posted by downinflames68 

Okay... so seeing as how my last car made it through only a few Milwaukee winters without sprouting up the nasty orange stuff, I am HELL BENT on preventing it this time.

Good luck! You might delay it long enough to sell the car before the rust sprouts, but you'll never prevent it for as long as the car will run (barring an accident that totals it, of course).

Originally Posted by dzp111 

There are 2 types of undercoating now: oil-based, and wax-based. Go for the latter. Oil-based spray dries rubber hoses eventually.
Little more expensive but in the long run wax-base makes a lot more sense.
Do your research.

Last I knew, Consumer Report(s?) advised against undercoating, calling it a moneymaker for the car dealer, and useless for the car owner.

Originally Posted by ThinkInsane 

Try living in a place that they actually advertise as "The Salt City". No joke, that's what they call it.

And where would that be? Minneapolis? Salt Lake City?

[downinflames68]

Waxoyl = NOT an undercoating. Undercoating= rubberized layer of crap that traps moisture.

[ThinkInsane]

Originally Posted by Gregg 

And where would that be? Minneapolis? Salt Lake City?

Syracuse, NY. Even my street is named after salt

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by ThinkInsane 

Syracuse, NY. Even my street is named after salt

Hmmm. Jessica Riccardi. Hmmm.