[mattyb]

Year 2010 bug hits German credit cards.

Ouch.

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by mattyb 

Year 2010 bug hits German credit cards.

Ouch.

Who's fault is it ?

French company Gemalto. I smell a big lawsuit.

German link: Kartenpanne: Französische Firma schuld an 2010-Fehler - SPIEGEL ONLINE - Nachrichten - Wirtschaft

-t

[Doofy]

No holidays in Poland this year then!

[turtle777]

*snort*

-t

[mattyb]

Strange, on their website they say that they are Dutch :

Gemalto N.V. is a public company incorporated in the Netherlands. It is headquartered in Amsterdam, and has subsidiaries and group companies around the world. Unless otherwise specified we refer to them as "Gemalto"

Also strange is the fact that the cards used in the UK and France (for example) that have Gemalto chips are still working.

Strange bug.

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by mattyb 

Strange, on their website they say that they are Dutch :

Also strange is the fact that the cards used in the UK and France (for example) that have Gemalto chips are still working.

Strange bug.

Yeah, I don't know if they (Spiegel) meant that that particular chip was made in France.

At any rate, it's not strange that it only affects German cards.
This chip is used in EC cards (Euro cards), which are Debit cards, not Credit cards.
The chip is probably made specifically for the German market.

-t

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by mattyb 

Strange, on their website they say that they are Dutch :

From what I understand, Gemalto is a company formed after a merger of Gemplus (French) and Axalto (Dutch).

The chips came from the former Gemplus operation (French). The new combined company is HQ'ed in the Netherlands, maybe more for tax reasons than anything else.

-t

[The Final Dakar]

The 2012 bug will render all credit cards obsolete.

(because we'll all be dead)

[starman]

Proof that the system runs on Newtons.

[ort888]

NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN

[tooki]

Originally Posted by turtle777 

At any rate, it's not strange that it only affects German cards.
This chip is used in EC cards (Euro cards), which are Debit cards, not Credit cards.

Not true. Here in Europe, the chip also stores credit card information. My Swiss MasterCard, which is a credit card, not a debit card, has a chip and is routinely read by chip readers, not magstripe readers.

[Spheric Harlot]

That's a package deal offered by your bank to include services like a cash card (where a balance is withdrawn from your account and transferred onto the chip on the card, to be used like cash).

Regular credit cards do not have the chip.

Also, this problem has now been fixed - in a software update for the affected ATMs and retail card readers. FWIW, my debit card worked fine.

[tooki]

Not true. Plain and simply not true. My Swiss MasterCard does not have CASH functions (my bank card does, though). I routinely run CREDIT transactions (as this card is ONLY credit, it is not a bank card) using chip+PIN. That's the standard method here in Switzerland.

http://www.mmastercard.ch/de/index.html <-- the card I have

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by tooki 

Not true. Here in Europe, the chip also stores credit card information. My Swiss MasterCard, which is a credit card, not a debit card, has a chip and is routinely read by chip readers, not magstripe readers.

I should have said mainly. 90% or so of the cards affected are Debit, the rest Credit.

Since Germans rarely use credit cards, the whole problem surfaced with the debit cards.

-t

[Powerbook]

Originally Posted by ort888 

bla

Whatever this has to do with Germany...

[ort888]

All Germans are Nazis. Didn't you hear?

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by ort888 

All Germans are Nazis. Didn't you hear?

Like all people from "Your Anus" are, well, anusholes ?

-t

[ort888]

Exactly.

All Americans are ignorant cowboys. All Canadiens are lumberjacks. All Brits are tea drinking sissies. All Middle Easterners are terrorists.

[Andy8]

Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot 

That's a package deal offered by your bank to include services like a cash card (where a balance is withdrawn from your account and transferred onto the chip on the card, to be used like cash).

Regular credit cards do not have the chip.

Also, this problem has now been fixed - in a software update for the affected ATMs and retail card readers. FWIW, my debit card worked fine.

I have both credit and debit cards, some with chips and some not, but every new replacement card I receive these days has a chip inside regardless.

Most people here use the chip credit cards for making small purchases at the supermarket which do not require a signature or pin.