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sek929 · Aug 4, 2010, 04:37 PM

Curb is an amazing show. Season 6 is pure comedy gold.

I just started watching Community, and I can't believe I kind of wrote it off before, GREAT show. What's in the water over there at NBC.

mattyb · Aug 5, 2010, 02:22 AM

Strange, I liked Seinfeld (though I cannot quote from it on demand and probably haven't seen every episode), but Curb just annoys me. I don't find it funny when ineptitude is made into comedy. Then again, the Pink Panther films were excellent.

Oisín · Aug 5, 2010, 02:58 AM

You people all seem to be horribly misinformed. Seinfeld is atrocious. Even Friends holds up nicely when compared to that.

Though I would agree about the canned laughter. Needs to be canned, in the other sense.

mattyb · Aug 5, 2010, 03:01 AM

Originally Posted by Oisín

You people all seem to be horribly misinformed. Seinfeld is atrocious. Even Friends holds up nicely when compared to that.

Oh dear.

osiris · Aug 5, 2010, 07:26 AM

Originally Posted by Oisín

You people all seem to be horribly misinformed. Seinfeld is atrocious. Even Friends holds up nicely when compared to that.

Though I would agree about the canned laughter. Needs to be canned, in the other sense.

Friends? Friends? The lowest common denominator for all of humanity? At least Seinfeld admits to its callous and selfish ways. Friends, otoh, denies any such thing and goes further with self absorbed vanity and hyper superficiality. But I do admit that the show has better boobage. Alright, Friends is a better show.

mattyb · Aug 5, 2010, 08:05 AM

Originally Posted by osiris

But I do admit that the show has better boobage. Alright, Friends is a better show.

By that reasoning Baywatch is the pinacle of mans' achievements.

ShortcutToMoncton · Aug 5, 2010, 08:11 AM

Oh dear

andi*pandi · Aug 5, 2010, 08:16 AM

I was surprised by Community, the first time Chevy Chase has been funny in years. Also Parks and Rec is good.

Seinfeld was full of unlikeable people doing stupid or outlandish things. It had it's moments but I don't find the need to rewatch. Friends was more likeable and had less uncomfortable humor.

The Final Dakar · Aug 5, 2010, 08:19 AM

I still think Opposite George is one of the most clever ideas ever done.

Laminar · Aug 5, 2010, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by andi*pandi

I was surprised by Community, the first time Chevy Chase has been funny in years. Also Parks and Rec is good.

Chevy Chase makes a good creepy old guy. The Abed and Troy dynamic is hilarious, and Señor Chang is great. The intro to the "premier" to the second half of the season had me rolling.

Parks and Rec is Amy Poehler as Michael Scott.

SpaceMonkey · Aug 5, 2010, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by Laminar

Chevy Chase makes a good creepy old guy. The Abed and Troy dynamic is hilarious, and Señor Chang is great. The intro to the "premier" to the second half of the season had me rolling.

Was that when Chang pretended he died? That was fantastic.

Parks and Rec is Amy Poehler as Michael Scott.

Not really. Her character is super-competent.

Laminar · Aug 5, 2010, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey

Was that when Chang pretended he died? That was fantastic.

Yes. That combined with Jack Black showing up out of the blue.

Not really. Her character is super-competent.

I guess I only saw a couple episodes.

osiris · Aug 5, 2010, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

I still think Opposite George is one of the most clever ideas ever done.

Imagine Opposite George in Bizarro world.

Did I just blow your mind?

SpaceMonkey · Aug 5, 2010, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by Laminar

I guess I only saw a couple episodes.

She has similar delusions of grandeur, in a very nerdy and principled way, though (I remember a line where she says something like, "I would never have an affair. Unless I were the President. And he was the Vice President.") A bit of the background joke to the series is that she has high personal goals but is completely immersed in the small-town politics of the Parks & Rec. Dept., which she is very confident navigating (while being a bit socially awkward).

Over the past year, I've found "Parks and Rec" to be a lot more funny to me than "The Office," I think primarily because the personalities seem much more realistic. Plus Nick Offerman is great as her boss.

Jawbone54 · Aug 5, 2010, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by Oisín

You people all seem to be horribly misinformed. Seinfeld is atrocious.

You're dead to me.

The Final Dakar · Aug 5, 2010, 10:47 AM

It's been well documented that Oisin's opinion should be discounted when it comes to entertainment.

Laminar · Aug 5, 2010, 10:49 AM

And sexual preference.

turtle777 · Aug 5, 2010, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by Oisín

You people all seem to be horribly misinformed. Seinfeld is atrocious.

I agree. Seinfeld is crap.

I lovin' me some Curb, but Seinfeld is just crap.

Let the flames begin...

-t

The Final Dakar · Aug 5, 2010, 11:20 AM

Aside from the bizarre paradox of hating the same show, you know you're on the wrong side if turtle agrees with you.

osiris · Aug 5, 2010, 12:48 PM

Oh dear.

brassplayersrock² · Aug 5, 2010, 01:12 PM

.raed hO

turtle777 · Aug 5, 2010, 01:14 PM

What ? That's it ?

This place is f*cking dead.

-t

Jawbone54 · Aug 5, 2010, 01:20 PM

Seinfeld seasons 2-7 are as good as network TV will ever get.

Before I got married, my wife loved Friends/Leno and hated Seinfeld/Letterman. Now she watches Seinfeld/Arrested Development DVDs every night, loves Letterman/Ferguson, thinks Friends has shoddy writing, and believes that Leno might possibly be the Antichrist. I've trained her well.

The Final Dakar · Aug 5, 2010, 01:22 PM

Being religious, you're used to indoctrinating people.

Also, don't start me before Season 3 (and I'll go at least to 8)

SpaceMonkey · Aug 5, 2010, 01:23 PM

What is her opinion of Shark Week?

Jawbone54 · Aug 5, 2010, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

Being religious, you're used to indoctrinating people.

Ba-dum-tish.

Also, don't start me before Season 3 (and I'll go at least to 8)

Season 2 is enjoyable for me because the characters are all so weird and not fully-developed into what they became. I still love it.

Season 9 is my least favorite, but you could feel it tailing off in 8 without Larry David around anymore. Still some extremely funny moments in each season though.

Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey

What is her opinion of Shark Week?

She tries to fake sick so she can skip church and watch it. We're both hooked.*cough*

The Final Dakar · Aug 5, 2010, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by Jawbone54

Season 2 is enjoyable for me because the characters are all so weird and not fully-developed into what they became. I still love it.

Season 9 is my least favorite, but you could feel it tailing off in 8 without Larry David around anymore. Still some extremely funny moments in each season though.

I just skimmed wikipedia; Season 2 is poor, Season 3 is tolerable, and Season 9 is solid with a few great ones.

In short: You are dumb.

osiris · Aug 5, 2010, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by Jawbone54

Seinfeld seasons 2-7 are as good as network TV will ever get.

Before I got married, my wife loved Friends/Leno and hated Seinfeld/Letterman. Now she watches Seinfeld/Arrested Development DVDs every night, loves Letterman/Ferguson, thinks Friends has shoddy writing, and believes that Leno might possibly be the Antichrist. I've trained her well.

In retrospect, season one Seinfeld was pretty bad - it seemed as though the George role was swapped with Jerry (dealing with women, overall confidence)...

Leno is the anti-christ btw.

Jawbone54 · Aug 5, 2010, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

I just skimmed wikipedia; Season 2 is poor, Season 3 is tolerable, and Season 9 is solid with a few great ones.

In short: You are dumb.

Bah...it wouldn't be a typical day on the 'NN without the two of us having greatly differing opinions.

Season 9 is too campy. It's like a mixture of Seinfeld and the 60s Batman TV series.

In short: you have no taste.

The Final Dakar · Aug 5, 2010, 01:54 PM

Season is so awful its easy to understand why this show almost got cancelled.

It interesting to watch those early seasons when Elaine went from an over-concerned touchy feely feminist to uncaring indifferent just one of the guys.

Jawbone54 · Aug 5, 2010, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by osiris

In retrospect, season one Seinfeld was pretty bad - it seemed as though the George role was swapped with Jerry (dealing with women, overall confidence)...

It's uncomfortable, perhaps, but I wouldn't call it bad. That's part of the reason I like watching it. Kramer is treated like he is mentally-challenged, Elaine's character doesn't get any good jokes (that didn't start until Season 4 or so), George isn't enough of a selfish loser, and Jerry's acting is atrocious.

All of this just makes me realize how much they grew over the next several years, and it's kind of cool.

Leno is the anti-christ btw.

He's not classy enough to be the Antichrist.

The Final Dakar · Aug 5, 2010, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by Jawbone54

Bah...it wouldn't be a typical day on the 'NN without the two of us having greatly differing opinions.

Season 9 is too campy. It's like a mixture of Seinfeld and the 60s Batman TV series.

In short: you have no taste.

Season has some terribly over the op episodes. But it still has more good episodes than either season 2 or 3.

Hell, multiple Puddy episodes alone wins it the title.

Jawbone54 · Aug 5, 2010, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

Season is so awful its easy to understand why this show almost got cancelled.

It interesting to watch those early seasons when Elaine went from an over-concerned touchy feely feminist to uncaring indifferent just one of the guys.

Agreed about Elaine (my last post), but I think you could still see the potential of the show. In retrospect, we think it wasn't up to snuff. However, at the time, people were all saying it was "different."

Hell, multiple Puddy episodes alone wins it the title.

It's difficult to argue with the Puddy point.

Yeah, that's right.

The Final Dakar · Aug 5, 2010, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by Jawbone54

Agreed about Elaine (my last post), but I think you could still see the potential of the show. In retrospect, we think it wasn't up to snuff. However, at the time, people were all saying it was "different."

Different ≠ Good. I imagine it was more mesmerizing than anything else. God knows that's why i watch a few of the Adult Swim shows that are terrible.

Originally Posted by Jawbone54

It's difficult to argue with the Puddy point.

Yeah, that's right.

Elaine: "Puddy, don't wait for me."
Puddy: "Ok."

osiris · Aug 5, 2010, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by Jawbone54

It's uncomfortable, perhaps, but I wouldn't call it bad. That's part of the reason I like watching it. Kramer is treated like he is mentally-challenged, Elaine's character doesn't get any good jokes (that didn't start until Season 4 or so), George isn't enough of a selfish loser, and Jerry's acting is atrocious.

All of this just makes me realize how much they grew over the next several years, and it's kind of cool.

Ok, uncomfortable - like a new pair of heavy work boots... But you're right about Kramer. There was even a comment about him not leaving the building for ten years in a season one show. Later episodes he becomes the hipster doofus. I guess we all grow. Well, some of us.

Originally Posted by Jawbone54

He's not classy enough to be the Antichrist.

Maybe Telly Savalas? Now there's man oozing with class.
oops, he's dead.

hyteckit · Aug 5, 2010, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by Jawbone54

She tries to fake sick so she can skip church and watch it. We're both hooked.*cough*

Get a TIVO. You can TIVO Shark Week, but you can't TIVO church.

Jawbone54 · Aug 5, 2010, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by osiris

Ok, uncomfortable - like a new pair of heavy work boots... But you're right about Kramer. There was even a comment about him not leaving the building for ten years in a season one show. Later episodes he becomes the hipster doofus. I guess we all grow. Well, some of us.

Kramer made the biggest shift, I'd say. He kind of became a benevolent, harmless guru of sorts.

Maybe Telly Savalas? Now there's man oozing with class.
oops, he's dead.

YEEEOW...

[EDIT] I just realized (via Wikipedia) that he was in Birdman of Alcatraz. Great old flick.

Originally Posted by hyteckit

Get a TIVO. You can TIVO Shark Week, but you can't TIVO church.

It's worse than that: my wife and I don't have cable/satellite. We have cable Internet through Suddenlink, but no channels. We actually only pick up CBS/NBC/ABC/FOX on our HD antenna, as well (which we don't really even use; it's not even hooked up right now).

Almost everything we watch is either DVD, Blu-ray, Netflix, Hulu, or iTunes.

We each miss maybe one church service per year, and we're pretty sick to get to that point. We also webcast our services, and I have access to the archives on our servers. I've downloaded a ton of them onto my MBP for trips, research. My point: we kind of can TiVo church.

The Final Dakar · Aug 5, 2010, 02:23 PM

How many services do you go to each year?

Laminar · Aug 5, 2010, 02:32 PM

How many hours a year do you spend praying?

besson3c · Aug 5, 2010, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by Jawbone54

Bah...it wouldn't be a typical day on the 'NN without the two of us having greatly differing opinions.

Season 9 is too campy. It's like a mixture of Seinfeld and the 60s Batman TV series.

In short: you have no taste.

In short: Adam West kicks ass

The Final Dakar · Aug 5, 2010, 02:34 PM

Curiosity killed that cat.

And the thread.

besson3c · Aug 5, 2010, 02:48 PM

I've had just enough of your sass mouth, Dakar.

brassplayersrock² · Aug 5, 2010, 03:19 PM

Sass:
A New Zealand term which refers to the act of where which people smoke marijuana. Sometimes 'sass' is used for alcohol too.

Oisín · Aug 5, 2010, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

It's been well documented that Oisin's opinion should be discounted when it comes to entertainment.

Nonsense. Toy Story is a boring movie.

Originally Posted by Laminar

And sexual preference.

Pffft. Half the Catholic priests in the world can’t be wrong. Seriously, that was the best I could come up with. What the hell is happening to me?!?

brassplayersrock² · Aug 5, 2010, 04:52 PM

tisk tisk…. that’s the best you could come up with? That’s what she said

Courier · Aug 5, 2010, 04:53 PM

HI There - Welcome to me !

funny that this is the first post I see after joining

Oisín · Aug 5, 2010, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by brassplayersrock²

tisk tisk…. that’s the best you could come up with? That’s what she said

You obviously need to widen your horizon of posters in whose posts you regularly check for white text.

brassplayersrock² · Aug 5, 2010, 05:12 PM

Same as to you. Hence my white text in my reply.

Oisín · Aug 5, 2010, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by brassplayersrock²

Same as to you. Hence my white text in my reply.

Except yours carried no implication you’d seen mine to begin with.

turtle777 · Aug 5, 2010, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by Soon be banned spammer Courier

HI There - Welcome to me !

funny that this is the first post I see after joining

Bye.

-t