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My first bar fight, and "WTF has going through your head"
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I know that people can be unreasonable, I see it every day in real life and in places like the PWL, but there is that unreasonableness that I can sort of understand the justification for, and unreasonableness that is WTF to the points that I cannot fathom - stuff that just makes absolutely no sense. This is not a rant per say, but I'm wondering if some of you struggle with the curiosity of trying to fathom certain behavior of others?
Exhibit A:
Last night at my gig I was near a bar fight that broke out. Some dude in the audience decided that he was going to sit by the keyboard player on his bench on stage and either check out the keyboard, maybe play it, or else join us on stage. We weren't sure exactly what he thought he was going to do, but he was told to get off the stage. He didn't, so the bouncer made him get off.
He was okay for a few more songs, but then after that he decided that while he was leaving that he'd throw a beer mug at the guy in the band that confronted him, which missed him but shattered all over the stage. The bouncer chased him, tackled him, and completely manhandled him outside until the cops came. When the cops came the guy said that that he hadn't done anything until the bouncer showed the police the video footage of him doing just that. He was hauled off to jail and arrested for assault.
He didn't know anybody in the band prior to this day, his act one of doing whatever he thought he was doing was WTF, but deciding to throw a beer mug in retaliation for whatever he thought he was retaliating for was even more WTF... When he sobers up I can't imagine him trying to justify his actions to the cops. Completely dumb.
Exhibit B:
This former Arkansas school board guy that ranted on Facebook about how he wanted gays to die of HIV and all sorts of other terrible things relating to bullying and suicide pertaining to gays:
Clint McCance, Arkansas School Board Member, Resigns On 'Anderson Cooper 360' (VIDEO)
Why would you write such things to Facebook when you had a job on a school board? Duh.
The ability for people to do dumb things never, ever ceases to astound me. Whenever I think that I'm no longer astoundable I'm again astounded. I guess the best strategy is to not waste energy trying to understand the actions of some people, but part of me would really like to know what goes through their heads? It's a very odd fascination I have... sort of like watching an animal and trying to figure it out, I guess.
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how drunk was that guy ?
Maybe there was no other reason 
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Dang, what a ripoff. I opened the thread to hear about besson getting in a bar fight.
"Did he win? What does one win in a bar fight? Let's see the pictures. The shiners, the busted pool cues, the cuffed suspects. Check the pic closely to see if besson has cuffs on."
Only it's a music concert, there was no fight, and where'd the pool tables go? Plus something about a political guy and Facebook.
I should write the post this thread should have had. Featuring besson tearing up the bar, flying over the bar, and duking it out with the cops once they arrive.
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Hey, it got your attention, didn't it?
I was dressed up as a zombie, if that makes it any more exciting. Maybe I should tell people that my bloody head wound came from a shard of glass?
It was a show at a nightclub, not a sit-down sort of concert. This one guy was dressed up as Bender, that was pretty cool. I also saw Boba Fett and Clifford the Red Dog. Have I redeemed myself?
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Originally Posted by besson3c 
...the video footage of him doing just that. He was hauled off to jail and arrested for assault...
Show don't tell
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I am surprised that any bar that sold alcohol would book besson3c's unique eclectic jazz tuba-and-ukulele fusion band....
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Lame story
Originally Posted by reader50
Dang, what a ripoff. I opened the thread to hear about besson getting in a bar fight.
Worse yet it wasn't really a fight. It was a bouncer restraining or grappling a drunk
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besson, I thought you were an IT administrator or some such. Bars?
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Yeah, who knew besson had any interest in music? Not me!
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Yeah, I guess that's another *whooosh* for Big Mac, but just so that you guys don't think that I'm into jazz tuba, it was a soul/R&B cover band I was subbing into. I'm a trumpet player, and we played 3 hours of Stevie Wonder, Rick James, Michael Jackson, Tower of Power, Earth Wind and Fire, Sly and the Family Stone, James Brown, KC and the Sunshine Band, and other stuff like that...
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Originally Posted by besson3c
Yeah, I guess that's another *whooosh* for Big Mac, but just so that you guys don't think that I'm into jazz tuba, it was a soul/R&B cover band I was subbing into. I'm a trumpet player, and we played 3 hours of Stevie Wonder, Rick James, Michael Jackson, Tower of Power, Earth Wind and Fire, Sly and the Family Stone, James Brown, KC and the Sunshine Band, and other stuff like that...
Cool.
If you need a keyboard sub for your European tour, I'm on it. Played Hammond/Rhodes/Clav/moog in a very similar ten-piece combo for ten years.
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Originally Posted by besson3c
Yeah, I guess that's another *whooosh* for Big Mac, but just so that you guys don't think that I'm into jazz tuba, it was a soul/R&B cover band I was subbing into. I'm a trumpet player, and we played 3 hours of Stevie Wonder, Rick James, Michael Jackson, Tower of Power, Earth Wind and Fire, Sly and the Family Stone, James Brown, KC and the Sunshine Band, and other stuff like that...
I don't understand. None of those groups had a ukulele. Why are you covering them?
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Originally Posted by besson3c
This is not a rant per say, but I'm wondering if some of you struggle with the curiosity of trying to fathom certain behavior of others?
My part time job while pretending to study at Uni was as a barman/doorman. I used to work in a place where they covered the pool tables some nights so that motorcycles could be repaired on them. The police didn't raid us because they liked knowing that all the scum was in one place. Actually we did eventually get raided.
A wrong look, a nudge, a drop of beer, having a scarf of a team that you don't like, looking like a sister's ex ... I've heard loads of excuses for starting fights. 99% of them were dumb.
I've stopped asking why people are so dumb, but drunks in a bar are no exception. One only has to watch the news, drive a car, walk down the street, read a newspaper, catch up on the MacNN forums or even look in the mirror sometimes.
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Originally Posted by turtle777
how drunk was that guy ?
He's not drunk, he's from Arkansas.
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That doesn't sound like much of a fight. More like a nightly occurrence at 95% of bars open past midnight.
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A friend and I got caught in the middle of a barfight once. She got pushed down and I had to grab her up and shove our way outside the bar for safety. Of course it was snowing. Of course the car wouldn't start. We waited for AAA in the snow rather than go back in.
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Originally Posted by Snow-i
That doesn't sound like much of a fight. More like a nightly occurrence at 95% of bars open past midnight.
You may need to reconsider what bars you're going to, because that is not normal.
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Perhaps thats some hyperbole, but in downtown DC and Maryland city bars just try going at 1 or 2 oclock on a friday or saturday night. Plenty of drunkards getting tossed by bouncers at just about every bar for a number of reasons.
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happens at just about every bar Ive been too, and I've seen'm all. The only exception is bars that dont get much business.
speaking of things I cant fathom or understand... hanging out at bars is one of them, especially if the 'live music' is so loud you cant talk with anyone. seems so pointless and unproductive.
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I know I'm always kicking myself at how unproductive my bar time is.
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Not to mention all those unproductive hours in concerts.
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