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The Godfather · Mar 9, 2011, 08:17 AM

Would it be a (potentially) good/better/awesome addition to the franchise?
Should it have the same producers, directors, actors?

SSharon · Mar 9, 2011, 09:26 AM

The movies clearly got worse as time advanced chronologically so going back in time should only make it better. Right?

The Final Dakar · Mar 9, 2011, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by SSharon

The movies clearly got worse as time advanced chronologically so going back in time should only make it better. Right?

I like your thinking.

Laminar · Mar 9, 2011, 09:35 AM

I pulled out my Reloaded DVD a couple months back and realized that I bought the full screen version when it came out. Gross.

The Final Dakar · Mar 9, 2011, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by Laminar

I pulled out my Reloaded DVD a couple months back and realized that I bought the full screen version when it came out. Gross.

That is awful.

I didn't realize how bad the older DVDs are. I had some people over and someone chose Usual Subjects to watch. It was one of those two-sided DVDs with Full and Widescreen, so I put in the widescreen side and the opening kept pillarboxing, to my confusion. Turned out the DVD was not anamorphic (On top of the poor quality of those early DVD transfers). It was horrific.

Dork. · Mar 9, 2011, 10:00 AM

Leave The Matrix alone!

It was an awesome movie. It stands on its own. I'm glad they didn't try to cash in by making weak, pointless sequels that would have only degraded how awesome the original was.

What was that? No! You're wrong! I refuse to acknowledge that those movies exist!
I'm not listening! I CAN'T HEAR YOU! LALALALALALA!

Shaddim · Mar 9, 2011, 10:45 AM

No, just, no. It's perfect without sequels or prequels, let's leave it at that.

-Q- · Mar 9, 2011, 10:56 AM

Sometimes, I think you need to just leave well enough alone. You know, like George Lucas did.

The Final Dakar · Mar 9, 2011, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by -Q-

Sometimes, I think you need to just leave well enough alone. You know, like George Lucas did.

Shaddim · Mar 9, 2011, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

OMG, WTF is that?! Kill it, now!

lpkmckenna · Mar 9, 2011, 12:29 PM

I'm not a cynic who thinks that sequels and reboots are always bad. There are many examples of great sequels and reboots.

I'm not someone who thinks that because a franchise had a lousy film, there should never again be another one made. Star Trek III really sucked, but I'm glad they still made Star Trek IV. Temple of Doom was terrible, but I'm glad they still made Last Crusade. Frankly, any franchise can be put back on the rails with a good story and strong production team. There were several bad Bond films, but I'm glad they still make new ones.

I'm not a believer in "closed" franchises either: that so-called completed story arcs should never see a sequel.

That said: I don't see any merit in a Matrix prequel or sequel, but if the creators wanted to make another, I'd go see it. I'm sure there's lots of room in the Matrix for more stories.

BTW, Matrix Reloaded was an awesome flick, and the haters can go suck it. Revolutions was so-so, but that's what happens when half your cast dies.

The Final Dakar · Mar 9, 2011, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by lpkmckenna

I'm not a cynic who thinks that sequels and reboots are always bad. There are many examples of great sequels and reboots.

I'm not someone who thinks that because a franchise had a lousy film, there should never again be another one made. Star Trek III really sucked, but I'm glad they still made Star Trek IV. Temple of Doom was terrible, but I'm glad they still made Last Crusade. Frankly, any franchise can be put back on the rails with a good story and strong production team. There were several bad Bond films, but I'm glad they still make new ones.

I'm not a believer in "closed" franchises either: that so-called completed story arcs should never see a sequel.

That said: I don't see any merit in a Matrix prequel or sequel, but if the creators wanted to make another, I'd go see it. I'm sure there's lots of room in the Matrix for more stories.

BTW, Matrix Reloaded was an awesome flick, and the haters can go suck it. Revolutions was so-so, but that's what happens when half your cast dies.

I agree with roughly 80% of this, which is noteworthy (to me).

Oisín · Mar 9, 2011, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by -Q-

Sometimes, I think you need to just leave well enough alone. You know, like George Lucas did.

Damn you. I was about to say that Matrix 0 should be directed by George Lucas, but you ruined it for me!

lpkmckenna · Mar 9, 2011, 02:58 PM

Matrix Zero is a great movie title. But I don't think I'm interested in the teenaged Morpheus meeting Oracle for the first time, or Ellen Page playing a tween hacking the IRS and escaping the Matrix for the fist time. I mean, really, what pre-Neo stories are worth telling?

sek929 · Mar 9, 2011, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by lpkmckenna

BTW, Matrix Reloaded was an awesome flick, and the haters can go suck it. Revolutions was so-so, but that's what happens when half your cast dies.

It really wasn't, I mean, some of the action scenes (namely the highway battle) are amazing, but the story becomes so convoluted and pointless it really holds no merit to me at all. Not to mention the scene where Neo battles a hundred smiths looked dated when it released, now it looks like a piss-poor video game.

The third movie was just straight up awful, it has no redeeming features whatsoever.

BLAZE_MkIV · Mar 9, 2011, 05:00 PM

I though the terminator franchice was tha matrix prequels.

Oisín · Mar 9, 2011, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by lpkmckenna

Matrix Zero is a great movie title. But I don't think I'm interested in the teenaged Morpheus meeting Oracle for the first time, or Ellen Page playing a tween hacking the IRS and escaping the Matrix for the fist time. I mean, really, what pre-Neo stories are worth telling?

The stories of the wars that led to the Matrix being set in place to begin with, perhaps?

Don Pickett · Mar 9, 2011, 06:31 PM

Depends which Wachowski Brothers show up, the ones who directed The Matrix, or the ones who directed Revolutions.

lpkmckenna · Mar 9, 2011, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by Oisín

The stories of the wars that led to the Matrix being set in place to begin with, perhaps?

This was covered in the Animatrix, and it was the worst of the various short films.

mattyb · Mar 10, 2011, 05:00 AM

I dunno who could replace Carrie-Anne Moss in skin tight latex outfit thingy. I enjoyed those bits.

Spheric Harlot · Mar 10, 2011, 05:12 AM

^ Oh yeah.

Oisín · Mar 10, 2011, 05:55 AM

Originally Posted by mattyb

I dunno who could replace Carrie-Anne Moss in skin tight latex outfit thingy. I enjoyed those bits.

Oh, I don’t know about that … I think Rosie O’Donnell in skin-tight latex outfit thingy might fill out the role nicely.
Apologies for any unintended mental images.

mattyb · Mar 10, 2011, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by Oisín

Oh, I don’t know about that … I think Rosie O’Donnell in skin-tight latex outfit thingy might fill out the role nicely.
Apologies for any unintended mental images.

If I ever make it to Copenhagen, you'll pay for those unintended images!!!

Laminar · Mar 10, 2011, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by mattyb

I dunno who could replace Carrie-Anne Moss in skin tight latex outfit thingy. I enjoyed those bits.

Never did it for me. Maybe it was the short hair, not sure.

The Final Dakar · Mar 10, 2011, 09:07 AM

Maybe it was the penis.

hayesk · Mar 10, 2011, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

That is awful.

I didn't realize how bad the older DVDs are. I had some people over and someone chose Usual Subjects to watch. It was one of those two-sided DVDs with Full and Widescreen, so I put in the widescreen side and the opening kept pillarboxing, to my confusion. Turned out the DVD was not anamorphic (On top of the poor quality of those early DVD transfers). It was horrific.

Thank goodness they re-released The Usual Suspects a couple of years later. I bought that copy.

hayesk · Mar 10, 2011, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by Dork.

Leave The Matrix alone!

It was an awesome movie. It stands on its own. I'm glad they didn't try to cash in by making weak, pointless sequels that would have only degraded how awesome the original was.

You must have seen a different version than I. The one I saw had a decent premise, but instead of exploring it, they just used it as an excuse to have cool gunfights.

P · Mar 10, 2011, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by Don Pickett

Depends which Wachowski Brothers show up, the ones who directed The Matrix, or the ones who directed Revolutions.

I believe they're technically not even brothers any more. One of them isn't, anyway.

The Final Dakar · Mar 10, 2011, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by hayesk

Thank goodness they re-released The Usual Suspects a couple of years later. I bought that copy.

I'm sure they rereleased all of those early movies. It does go to show that I've had an HDTV for three and a half years and haven't watched that DVD in all that time (and much longer I'm sure). One of the reasons I stopped buying movies on DVD around '05.

Spheric Harlot · Mar 10, 2011, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

Maybe it was the penis.

That may have distracted him from the movie, indeed.

Don't you hate people jacking off in the theater?

The Final Dakar · Mar 10, 2011, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot

That may have distracted him from the movie, indeed.

Don't you hate people jacking off in the theater?

Remind me not to visit German movie theaters.

The Final Dakar · Mar 10, 2011, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by P

I believe they're technically not even brothers any more. One of them isn't, anyway.

The Wachowski Siblings doesn't quite have the same ring to it.

Oisín · Mar 10, 2011, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

The Wachowski Siblings doesn't quite have the same ring to it.

Which I guess is why they’re just calling themselves “the Wachowskis” now.

The Final Dakar · Mar 10, 2011, 05:59 PM

Why am I not surprised you know what the duo that now consists of a transexual is calling itself nowadays.

olePigeon · Mar 10, 2011, 06:52 PM

How about Andrew and the Wachettes?

Shaddim · Mar 10, 2011, 07:21 PM

Larry, Lana, who the hell knows anymore?

mattyb · Mar 11, 2011, 02:17 AM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

Why am I not surprised you know what the duo that now consists of a transexual is calling itself nowadays.

Setting myself up for ridicule, but I honestly didn't know about this.

Learn something every day on the MacNN forums.

P · Mar 11, 2011, 03:46 AM

Yeah, I saw it on IMDB a few weeks ago myself. There was some news about Keanu saying that he was contracted for Matrix 4 & 5, and of course that needed to be looked up. Once I found the original piece, it was quite obviously a spoof (he also mentioned doing Bill & Ted 3 among other things, and the speech was at a university that doesn't actually exist), but it had been re-reported by someone who didn't bother fact checking and then the story spread without the obvious joke hints included.

The Final Dakar · Mar 11, 2011, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by mattyb

Setting myself up for ridicule, but I honestly didn't know about this.

Learn something every day on the MacNN forums.

I've only heard rumors, and really, it's so bizarre I don't care.

mattyb · Mar 11, 2011, 09:21 AM

Oh, I checked it out (Wikipedia, Daily Mail). Seems like Larry (Lana) has decided to go full batshit crazy.

Oisín · Mar 11, 2011, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

Why am I not surprised you know what the duo that now consists of a transexual is calling itself nowadays.

Is that a rhetorical question?

(Because the answer is that I didn’t. I looked it up because I didn’t even know who the Wachowski Brothers are. Wikipedia informed me that they now call themselves the Wachowskis instead, and that one of them had turned female.)

The Final Dakar · Mar 11, 2011, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by Oisín

Is that a rhetorical question?

(Because the answer is that I didn’t. I looked it up because I didn’t even know who the Wachowski Brothers are. Wikipedia informed me that they now call themselves the Wachowskis instead, and that one of them had turned female.)

It was a fake slur aimed at your sexual preference, because obviously such things cause you to keep up both on the sexual identity of a hollywood duo and their preferred method of identification.

Oisín · Mar 12, 2011, 04:48 AM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

It was a fake slur aimed at your sexual preference, because obviously such things cause you to keep up both on the sexual identity of a hollywood duo and their preferred method of identification.

Ah, I see.

My apologies, then, for ruining your slur.