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Mar 27, 2011, 04:53 PM
 
I'm curious if people felt this was a comedy. I thought it was, but I'm finding resistance to the idea.
     
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Mar 27, 2011, 05:19 PM
 
[Smacks forehead]

How could I have missed a five post thread from two weeks ago?
     
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Mar 27, 2011, 06:14 PM
 
It had funny moments but no, it wasn't a comedy.
     
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Mar 27, 2011, 07:39 PM
 
Does it pass the Bechdel test?
     
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Mar 27, 2011, 09:41 PM
 
Originally Posted by The Godfather View Post
Does it pass the Bechdel test?
I think not.
     
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Mar 27, 2011, 09:44 PM
 
It passes it.
     
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Mar 27, 2011, 09:46 PM
 
Originally Posted by -Q- View Post
It had funny moments but no, it wasn't a comedy.
Not even a comedy of manners?

Wouldn't this story be satire if it wasn't true?
     
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Mar 27, 2011, 09:48 PM
 
Originally Posted by imitchellg5 View Post
It passes it.
I'm trying to think where.
     
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Mar 27, 2011, 09:53 PM
 
There are three women who have a conversation about moving to Buckingham, no mention of men in the conversation.
     
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Mar 27, 2011, 09:54 PM
 
See this link.
Queen Elizabeth tells her two young daughters a story and talks to them about moving to their new home (Buckingham Palace). She also politely introduces herself to Mrs. Logue, who is flabbergasted to meet the Queen.
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Mar 27, 2011, 10:12 PM
 
Oh, okay.

I ended up on the TV Tropes page, from where I misinterpreted the test as being more stringent.
     
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Mar 27, 2011, 10:15 PM
 
Originally Posted by imitchellg5 View Post
There are three women who have a conversation about moving to Buckingham, no mention of men in the conversation.
I was originally thinking that didn't count because it turned to men as soon as Bertie walked in, but you are absolutely correct it qualifies.
     
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Mar 27, 2011, 10:17 PM
 
This test is like, the opposite of comedy.
     
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Mar 27, 2011, 11:59 PM
 
It's funny you ask, because I thought the same thing when I first saw it. At the time I hadn't heard any of the later hype about it, so I was seeing it fresh, and the last thing I expected was a laugh.

In fact, my immediate first impression was probably the same as a lot of people's: "Oh, no, wait. What kind of stuffy 'Masterpiece Theatre' bullshit is this...?"

It's not straight out comedy, certainly, but it feels like comedy for the absurd characters and situations made even more absurd by being based on reality.

You're exactly right, if it were total fiction, it would be a historical satire.

And absolutely f'ing brilliant dialogue.

Geoffrey Rush: "No! Don't smoke!"
Colin Firth: "All my physicians say it's good for me."
Geoffrey Rush: "Well, they're all idiots."
Colin Firth: "They've all been knighted."
Geoffrey Rush: "Well, it's official, then."

     
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Mar 28, 2011, 04:22 AM
 
No, it's no comedy. I liked it, but having finally seen Black Swan, I have to say that Black Swan is the better movie.
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Mar 28, 2011, 10:42 AM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
Not even a comedy of manners?

Wouldn't this story be satire if it wasn't true?
Satire of what? Stuttering? Monarchy?

The circumstances and characters make for a much more compelling dramatic story than comedy, in my mind.
     
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Mar 28, 2011, 01:24 PM
 
Originally Posted by -Q- View Post
Satire of what? Stuttering? Monarchy?
Monarchy, aristocracy, and the class system in general.

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The circumstances and characters make for a much more compelling dramatic story than comedy, in my mind.
You know, this is a key point.

I just couldn't buy that the main dramatic element (would Bertie stutter in public) was anything but, well... absurd. The device they kept on using to drive that drama home (the common people looking all dejected) just made it more so to me.

Now, the fight in the park... that was drama.
     
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Mar 28, 2011, 01:28 PM
 
Originally Posted by P View Post
No, it's no comedy. I liked it, but having finally seen Back Swan, I have to say that Black Swan is the better movie.
That was one of the potential choices, and I went with The King's Speech specifically because it's been criticized as "light". I didn't feel like serving myself such a heavy slice.
     
   
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