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subego · Oct 17, 2011, 06:08 PM

I think it's great he came out and is being supported by Hollywood, but did anyone not know this? Not "heard rumors know", but "took one look at him know"?

Pretend it's a public poll.

lpkmckenna · Oct 17, 2011, 06:56 PM

I have terrible gaydar, but it was so obvious to me. You'd have to have Asperger's not to notice.

subego · Oct 17, 2011, 07:12 PM

I want to say that in Heroes he was told "you know how women get creeped out by sexual predators? Use that gay vibe you give off to make straight guys who are watching feel the same way... but turn it up to 11".

besson3c · Oct 17, 2011, 07:18 PM

I didn't know

subego · Oct 17, 2011, 07:21 PM

Oh my...

besson3c · Oct 17, 2011, 08:53 PM

He was really mean in Heros. Gay people are friendly.

subego · Oct 17, 2011, 09:04 PM

That's why it was so creepy (I am 100% serious).

Eug · Oct 17, 2011, 09:14 PM

This is going to give the Trek fan fiction a big kickstart.

besson3c · Oct 17, 2011, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by subego

That's why it was so creepy (I am 100% serious).

If you had a reason to believe he was gay. I figured he was just obsessed with stuff to worry about vaginas. Most superhero villans are.

Do you think that Otis from the Christopher Reeves Superman series was gay?

subego · Oct 17, 2011, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by besson3c

If you had a reason to believe he was gay. I figured he was just obsessed with stuff to worry about vaginas. Most superhero villans are.

I didn't necessarily think Sylar was gay, but it was obvious Quinto was.

Originally Posted by besson3c

Do you think that Otis from the Christopher Reeves Superman series was gay?

Honestly, I don't remember.

besson3c · Oct 17, 2011, 09:32 PM

Shaddim · Oct 17, 2011, 10:58 PM

Why does it matter?

subego · Oct 17, 2011, 11:13 PM

Why does what matter?

subego · Oct 17, 2011, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by besson3c

No, I mean I don't remember how my 9-year-old self thought about it.

Shaddim · Oct 18, 2011, 12:44 AM

Originally Posted by subego

Why does what matter?

Why does his sexual orientation matter? It's baffling to me why people are concerned about that kind of thing.

It's a guy, he likes other guys. I'm a guy, I like women. I also like pie, but for some reason that doesn't cause as much titillation.

besson3c · Oct 18, 2011, 02:03 AM

Originally Posted by Shaddim

I also like pie, but for some reason that doesn't cause as much titillation.

It would if you liked your pie with a sperm filling...

Waragainstsleep · Oct 18, 2011, 03:49 AM

I agree with Shaddim. I don't concern myself with other people's orientations, couldn't care less, none of my business.

I prefer women to pie, but pie is easier to persuade back home with you.

ShortcutToMoncton · Oct 18, 2011, 04:26 AM

Originally Posted by Waragainstsleep

I prefer women to pie, but pie is cheaper to persuade back home with you.

subego · Oct 18, 2011, 05:30 AM

Originally Posted by Shaddim

Why does his sexual orientation matter? It's baffling to me why people are concerned about that kind of thing.

It's a guy, he likes other guys. I'm a guy, I like women. I also like pie, but for some reason that doesn't cause as much titillation.

Which people?
Define important.
Pie joke.

subego · Oct 18, 2011, 05:49 AM

Originally Posted by Waragainstsleep

I agree with Shaddim. I don't concern myself with other people's orientations, couldn't care less, none of my business.

The thing is, people talk about their orientation, or things which are directly related, constantly. Despite saying it's none of your business, you'd be unusual if you weren't talking about it yourself.

SpaceMonkey · Oct 18, 2011, 08:53 AM

Who?

ajprice · Oct 18, 2011, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey

Who?

Big Mac · Oct 18, 2011, 09:06 AM

He's also Spock in the JJ Abrams Star Trek remake.

subego · Oct 18, 2011, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by ajprice

Ping!

imitchellg5 · Oct 18, 2011, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by Big Mac

He's also Spock in the JJ Abrams Star Trek remake.

He played Spock really well. That's one of my favorite movies.

SpaceMonkey · Oct 18, 2011, 09:35 AM

That picture is scary, in an uncanny valley sense.

andi*pandi · Oct 18, 2011, 09:57 AM

overly sculpted unibrow = yike!

Shaddim · Oct 18, 2011, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by subego

The thing is, people talk about their orientation, or things which are directly related, constantly. Despite saying it's none of your business, you'd be unusual if you weren't talking about it yourself.

Then I'm unusual, it doesn't matter to me.

subego · Oct 18, 2011, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by Shaddim

Then I'm unusual, it doesn't matter to me.

Yet you discuss here it all the time. Both directly and indirectly.

Like... a lot.

Shaddim · Oct 18, 2011, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by subego

Yet you discuss here it all the time. Both directly and indirectly.

Like... a lot.

No I don't. The only time I mention it is during threads like this that seem to get started on this forum so often. My comment, more often than not, is "why does it matter?".

subego · Oct 18, 2011, 10:42 AM

Then how do I know you're a polygamist, and one of your wives is pregnant?

Shaddim · Oct 18, 2011, 10:44 AM

Last month a guy I met literally introduced himself as, "Hi, I'm Carl, I'm gay". To which I replied, "Hi, I'm Michael, I'm straight". He was irritated by that, I'm not sure why.

subego · Oct 18, 2011, 10:45 AM

Oh... for the benefit of those keeping score at home, what does your sig image mean?

subego · Oct 18, 2011, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by Shaddim

He was irritated by that, I'm not sure why.

I'd venture he's someone with an axe to grind.

The Final Dakar · Oct 18, 2011, 10:53 AM

Maybe he was trying to cut to the chase. Or give a friendly heads-up in case you frequently used gay jokes or slurs.

subego · Oct 18, 2011, 10:55 AM

Would that response have irritated him then?

The Final Dakar · Oct 18, 2011, 10:57 AM

Maybe he was disappointed...

subego · Oct 18, 2011, 10:58 AM

Well, there you go. Mystery solved.

The Final Dakar · Oct 18, 2011, 11:01 AM

I'm a regular Sherlock Hardy.

SpaceMonkey · Oct 18, 2011, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by Shaddim

Last month a guy I met literally introduced himself as, "Hi, I'm Carl, I'm gay".

Sounds like someone we know here. Were you in Canada by any chance?

Shaddim · Oct 18, 2011, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by subego

Then how do I know you're a polygamist, and one of your wives is pregnant?

Because I talk about my family, like many old-timers on this forum often do.

Usually I make comments like, "My wife likes such-and-such" or say something about the baby, that kind of thing. I suppose it's the, "I'm gay and you need to know about it" type of thing that bugs me. It's the whole being gay defines everything about them and is the most important thing in their life. To me that seems rather one dimensional.

Shaddim · Oct 18, 2011, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by subego

Oh... for the benefit of those keeping score at home, what does your sig image mean?

It's a jab at Charlie Sheen.

Shaddim · Oct 18, 2011, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

Maybe he was disappointed...

That was what my wife said.

finboy · Oct 18, 2011, 02:36 PM

Last week we celebrated National Coming Out Day. I can't remember anyone ever coming out and saying that they're straight. Isn't that weird? It's like straight people don't really define themselves based on what sex they sleep with. Wow, what a concept.

I guess I'm just tired of hearing about how "gay" people are b/c I don't care who you lust for, but I don't need to hear about it - "gay" or otherwise.

Back on Topic:

Duh?

The Final Dakar · Oct 18, 2011, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by finboy

Last week we celebrated National Coming Out Day. I can't remember anyone ever coming out and saying that they're straight. Isn't that weird?

When you're the norm, there's really no reason to underscore the assumed.

Originally Posted by finboy

It's like straight people don't really define themselves based on what sex they sleep with. Wow, what a concept.

I wouldn't go that far. I feel like those that expound the the virtues of "Family Values" within the construct of "traditional" relationships and marriages are doing just that.

SpaceMonkey · Oct 18, 2011, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by finboy

Last week we celebrated National Coming Out Day. I can't remember anyone ever coming out and saying that they're straight. Isn't that weird? It's like straight people don't really define themselves based on what sex they sleep with. Wow, what a concept.

I guess I'm just tired of hearing about how "gay" people are b/c I don't care who you lust for, but I don't need to hear about it - "gay" or otherwise.

I'm pretty sure you hear about people being straight all the time, too. Unless people never talk about their significant others in your presence?

If you are a member of a minority that has in the past been defined and stigmatized based on a single characteristic, then yes, you are probably going to be inclined to declare that characteristic in an effort to normalize it. I don't see what is so difficult about this concept, as it applies to numerous other situations without becoming so politicized. Take anything from vegans/vegetarians/sustainable food advocates, to Yankees fans living in Boston. If you are "tired" about having to hear about gay people, then it seems to me like the normalization effort is not yet complete, your protestations aside.

besson3c · Oct 18, 2011, 02:45 PM

I think the point of opening up by telling the public that you are gay is to encourage others to come out of the closet?

The Final Dakar · Oct 18, 2011, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by besson3c

I think the point of opening up by telling the public that you are gay is to encourage others to come out of the closet?

Yes, which seems to be part of the reason he so casually dropped it in that recent interview.

besson3c · Oct 18, 2011, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

Yes, which seems to be part of the reason he so casually dropped it in that recent interview.

Skyler was also a pretty bad ass character, as was Spock. If he were Urkle maybe he'd keep it to himself?

subego · Oct 18, 2011, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by Shaddim

Because I talk about my family, like many old-timers on this forum often do.

Q.E.D.